Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me – re:View

May 19, 201754 Comments

In anticipation of Showtime’s revival of the series, Jay and Josh gush over Twin Peaks for 45 minutes! Specifically, their love for the much maligned prequel film Fire Walk With Me, directed by David Lynch.

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  • Keith J.

    Why does Jay start looking to camera? That’s spooky.

  • Casey D. Mann

    Lynch is one of my favorite directors. I like the blu-ray special edition of this movie. The movie itself is hit or miss for me mostly, but Lynch’s mastery of sound and disturbing ambiance is in fully play here.

  • DeL Keyes

    Rewatched Fire Walk with Me a few days back. It does resonate with me after watching the series, but I would never think of the ring that way like Jay and Josh described, nor describe the yin/yang aspect of Twin Peaks and that shanty town with Harry Dean Stanton. I hope the ring comes into play in the mini-series.

  • Great to get your guy’s perspective on this movie – it was a good movie but I can’t imagine any state of mind that might demand a rewatch for me. It’s the sort of thing that has a lot of artistic value and is interesting to reflect on but not exactly fun to experience. I will say though the fact that I didn’t need to rewatch it to basically recollect every scene in it is a testament to the fact that it stuck with me. I’m not sure what emotional resonance I got out of the movie other than it was dark as fuck and it made me sad – but I can appreciate it for what its worth.

  • o’BIG wang McNass

    First!

    BTW. Twin Peaks? Never heard of it. I’ve only heard of Star Wars and salads. Well Ive got to go. i have a date with Saddam Hussein. Ive heard good things. Wish me well.

  • o’BIG wang McNass

    He is so handsome he can look into the camera any day. AKA look into my soul. Ah, I wish I was not happily married-

  • Brian Levine

    Lost held my attention for 5 years and then totally crashed and burned in season 6, revealing that the whole thing was was a sham. I still haven’t forgiven myself for falling for it.

  • Caruso S.

    TWIN PEAKS FIRE WALK WITH ME may be my most hated film of all time. A completely unnecessary pile of shit.

  • Moist

    I just noticed that in the shot of LP dying the pattern of the blood and the shape of LP’s mouth resemble the owl symbol on the ring.

    Edit: or maybe not.

  • rhume55

    It’s funny one of you said that on the show no one was what they seemed except Andy. Because Andy was originally supposed to be the murderer, before Lynch created Bob (which, if I recall, happened when Lynch saw the stage hand setting up furniture in Laura’s bedroom, and then cast him as Bob).

  • andychrist

    interesting that its 18 days from filming to airing this episode , … how long was it in planning and writing ?

  • peterablex

    Might be a good time to finally check out Twin Peaks, thank you.

  • Payback85

    To answer your question about any other show that was well loved in the first season and then crashed hard…

    Heroes.

    That is all.

  • Jaws

    Twin Peaks was like The Macarena, everybody was into it.

  • sepiajack

    It may just be me, but I think if something gave you 5 years of enjoyment than there’s nothing to forgive – regardless of how you feel about the ending.

    For the 5th season is actually the most problematic part of Lost – the 6th season started to right the ship but too much damage was done at that point. But it still never takes away my love for season 1-4 and all the hours of enjoyment I had watching it and speculating

  • sepiajack

    Yeah I’d never considered that either –

  • Ret Marut

    I trust that Jay and Josh WASHED THEIR HANDS before they filmed this.

  • sepiajack

    Thanks Jay & Josh, this was great!

  • bernverdnardo

    So this movie was supposed to make sense?
    Was Lost Highway supposed to make sense?

  • frankelee

    I’d take a traumatic brain injury to turn into a retarded invalid so Jay and Wizard could take care of me any day.

  • Yeah I didn’t think about that either on my first watch – it had occurred to me there was a drastic tonal shift but at a certain point I kinda forgot it took place in a mirror image of the Twin Peaks we remember – the bit in the cop station was entertaining. Right after the sheriff cracks at that stupid joke the FBI guy busts open his nose and is like “let me ask again” – delightfully slapstick.

  • Ret Marut

    Come to think of it, the last couple RLM posts have focused on two of my favorites: D.B. Cooper (sans Bigfoot) and Twin Peaks. Now, how about the third: PM’s The Prisoner? Jay? Rich? Josh? Oh, and I suppose you could talk about the work of b. Traven, if you’re gutsy.

  • Welcome Back Otter

    I still consider the reveal of the “flash forward” one of the greatest twists on TV ever. Regardless of what came later, the show had a lot of great moments.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I need more discussion about aspect ratios!

  • Welcome Back Otter

    I think I watched just one episode back when it originally aired, and at that age I thought a demon named “Bob” was laughable. But I was probably too young to appreciate it so it’s probably time to give it a go.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Twin Peaks sounds a lot like Paris Hilton.

  • Cakefarts

    Cleaned my eavestroughs today. Got way up high on my ladder. Took my shop vac up there with me and lashed it to the ladder. Sucked all the schmoo out of them. Took me hours. I am sore and sunburned. It was either that or watch Fire Walk With Me.

    I am happy with my decision.

  • The Arrogant Worm

    Alien Covenant and King Arthur you hack frauds!!!!!

  • Oh, it’s a story that’s been told before and… a story that’s been told before. How exciting.

  • sepiajack

    Absolutely, and the characters, dialogue, production values, music, acting were consistently good throughout

  • Spoiled Ants

    It would be easier for Mike & Susan to post a link to the Prometheus review and be done with Alien Covenant.
    And do the same for King Arthur with a 10 minute video of a jam jar.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I watched “Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me” the other night, but it had 4 shirtless dudes running around for 70 minutes and an drunken Eric Roberts voice-over.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Not H.R. “Bob” Dobbs! My life is ruined!
    **tears up SubGenius Foundation card**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    But … the Star Was Prequels!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    And then there’s “Dexter.”

  • sepiajack

    Sigh… yeah, Dexter. I’m not usually in the camp who says ‘the ending ruined the whole show’ for anything, but Dexter is my one exception. That whole final season was such a huge mess, and that finale really was the worst

  • Thanatos

    Yeah but they kept going farther than season two, after the show was already dead….

  • Urdus

    Originaly I didn’t like it. Nobody I knew liked it. The main reason because it was constantly announced as the more scarier “X Files” here. Then we turnt on the tv…and we saw people goofing around. “Okay… -_-” The show clashed so hard with our (implanted) expectations. Nobody understand what was going on. Luckily I watched the complete series and the movie last year finaly with an open mind and I cant express how much I love it.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Or you could watch The Notebook or an Adam Sandler movie.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    After the Trinity Killer season, the quality of the series dips like a ski slope.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    First? What is this, 2003 or something?

  • Urdus

    was the same. for some retarted reason they annouced Twin Peaks here as a horror show when it realy is more of a love letter to what home means. with all the good and all the bad thinks. As if we remember the past when we were children, and someone would constantly correcting us. That correcting person would be Bob. Taking the magic and wondering out of our childhood.

  • nautonnier

    Did you first watch it later in reruns? Because X-Files came out 3 years after Twin Peaks.

  • BlairHippo

    I’m not sure how old Jay is, but his recollection of the original airing of Twin Peaks and how it was received is a little off.

    I was 17 at the time. I loved this show — and it frustrated me beyond words.

    As I remember it, the ratings started strong; the pilot had a lot of hype, and was absolutely captivating. But they kept slipping, and slipping, and slipping — not in the second season, as Jay claims, but show by show, right out of the gate. I remember looking up the Nielsen ratings in the paper each week to see how my new favorite show was doing, and it was always doing just a little bit worse than the week before. I remember reading more than a few articles trying to figure out what the hell was going on — why was such a great show hemorrhaging viewers?

    A big part of it, I’m now convinced, is that it was too far ahead of its time. If you came of age during the DVR era, you would not believe how difficult it was to watch your favorite show each and every week. It aired once, and if you missed it, sucks to be you; wait for it to come back around in rerun season, punk. The very notion of “binge watching” anything was pure sci-fi — or would have been, had we imagined it could exist, which we did not.

    I was part of the VCR generation, so at least I could record it if couldn’t park my ass in front of the TV — in theory. In practice, often as not, I’d fire-up the VCR when I got home from whatever stupid high school shit I was doing only to find a goddamn college basketball game. If I was lucky, I could find the crawl indicating they time slot they’d shoved Twin Peaks into to make room for the fucking Hawkeyes. If I was very lucky, I’d find this out before the episode had aired yet, and re-set my VCR to record at stupid o’clock in the morning. And if I was very, very lucky, they’d actually air the goddamn thing when they said they would, and I’d actually get to see it.

    Twin Peaks wasn’t the first serialized prime-time drama, but it was the first to feel like … THIS. Like missing an episode meant missing really important shit that a “Last week on…” recap wasn’t going to do justice. And if you’d missed two episodes in a row … gyah. In that environment, it was practically designed to shed viewers.

    And the viewers it retained grew progressively more frustrated. Lynch may not have cared about the murder mystery, but his audience most definitely did. Curiosity gave way to frustration as week after week went by, coming no closer to discovering the killer. And when the season finale came and went with no resolution … the question stopped being “Who killed Laura Palmer?” and became “Does anybody care who killed Laura Palmer?” Viewers felt like they were being strung along. Like a dog that’s finally decided no, you’re NOT ever going to throw the damn ball, so fuck off while I lick my own junk.

    That was the environment the second season stepped into. And that’s why the network execs were so adamant that the plotline be resolved; the show was in deep trouble before a single episode of season 2 even began shooting. And then season 2 seemed more interested in wallowing in Lynchian weirdness than any of the more grounded elements that had drawn people into the pilot. So when it was finally revealed that Laura had been killed by … her father, while possessed by an evil fucking spirit?!?! … most of the original audience gave the hell up entirely.

    Popular wisdom held that the series finale was David Lynch literally flipping-off the TV-watching public for rejecting his baby. As someone who was well past caring and only tuned-in to see how my once-beloved show was going out, I saw what appeared to my teenage brain to be wall-to-wall weirdness just for the sake of being weird, combined with a whole fuckload of cliffhangers. Cliffhangers. In the series finale.

    No, David Lynch, said an eighteen-year-old Hippo. Fuck YOU.

    I still have never seen the complete series. As I went through college, complete VCR sets of the series started showing up in video stores, which I ignored. I still had that entitled fanboyish sense of betrayal clinging to me, and besides, I knew the destination was nothing I wanted to actually experience.

    But now … shit, I think I do need to give it a fair chance.

  • Urdus

    no reruns. It was just released later here.

  • frankelee

    Jay was so right when he predicted the new series would be boring and uninteresting. He said it more tactfully. But that’s what he meant.

  • Thiver

    I’m kinda disappointed nobody has yet made a video out of Jay footage with the Pink Room music playing over it. Get to work, internet!

  • NoLookPass

    Definitely would like to see Josh contribute more on episodes. Good stuff!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I can’t be the only one who thinks the Log Lady is kinda hot.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Me neither!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    [shouting]: I ORDERED A TWO BY FOUR!!!

  • Summer

    John – 3:16

  • bhlaab

    Cooper says don’t take the ring because even though it stops her from being possessed by Bob wearing it is a death sentence

  • Awesome Welles

    Hey, I just wanted to let you know that most of the ex-aicn talkbackers are over at The Man Who Saved Movies now if you wanted to stop by.

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