The Mist – re:View

April 27, 2017156 Comments

Mike and Jay discuss Frank Darabont’s monster movie throwback The Mist, based on the Stephen King novella. The film features such horrific things as spider monsters, crab monsters, and that kid that played The Sherminator in those American Pie movies.


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  • Brian Levine

    Umm…Is this that game where you can’t get killed and it has the worst ending of any computer game ever?

  • The Original Drew

    Very Cool.

  • Tom Braider

    You’re thinking of Prince of Persia.

  • Brian Levine

    Oh, right. They should make a movie out of that.

  • frankelee

    So you’re saying they overpraise schlock? This is a surprise.

  • frankelee

    So you’re saying they overpraise schlock? This is a surprise.

  • R2D2

    Come now, The Green Mile is a terrible movie though.

  • Adez

    I’m surprise Mike even knew about a voice actor, let alone Dave Filoni’s Star Wars, the man that can fix the franchise

  • R2D2

    The assault on the Aparo sector was an offensive launched by the Sith Empire in the early days of the Great Galactic War. Following the Sith’s return to known space, the Galactic Republic was slow to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……………

  • Adez

    Eh no more boring than the Prequel, but hey I’m just a casual fan :p

    I just watch random episodes of the Clone Wars, and they entertain me enough, especially since they properly explain the Separatists and make their politics interesting, have Clones with personality and have other force users, with Ahsoka leaving the bloated and outdated Jedi which fixes so many problems for me

    The perfect Star Wars movie for me would be a 2d directed Tartavosky movie with a script by Dave Filoni and Greg Weisman

  • Casey D. Mann

    Love your stuff. My dislike with the ending was that it tried too hard. It should have ended two minutes sooner. Instead, it delivered the gut punch… and then kept trying to top itself. It made me laugh in the theater. That made me feel bad. Thomas Jane gave his all in that ending. He ripped his heart out and held it out to the audience with both hands while naked… and I think the extended after-effect of the conclusion diminished the impact of his performance.

  • Jessica Meyer

    Bless Jay’s heart for briefly mentioning the Dark Tower series. I’ve always thought this movie was very reminiscent of that series and even maybe ties in (SK LOVES to do that), but no one else seems to share my views

  • Brian Levine

    Mr. Jingles ain’t gonna like that comment, Boss.

  • R2D2

    Well he can kiss my ass, which was sooo sore after sitting through 14 hours of that movie. Which was completely filmed in the dark. What were they thinking.

  • So far this is like the third or fourth film they’ve re:viewed that I saw in the theater. Fun movie, had its flaws but I enjoyed it for what it was.

  • RLMkeepitup

    that palpatine voice was pathetic, audition and strike him down Mike

  • Jazzy Tron

    I loved the short story and looked forward to the movie. It’s a cool movie but my problem was they changed the ending to the book. As I recall, and it’s been years, the ending of the book carries on for some time as they travel trying to find safety. It’s nicely ambiguous and haunting – no need for the change.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    me, personaly, I love this movie…no, seriously, I do. the only film from darabont I truly admire; sure its kinda schlocky and sure sometimes here and there a little overacting an playing too hard on the strings but with its ending so without compromises it managed to be a masterpiece and be much more superiour than the short-story its based on.

    I would go so far to call it an perfect analogy of the post-9/11-UnitedStates-mindset just right before everything went down the toilet foor good.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    the ending was *exactly* the reason why its – in my opinion – far more better than the short. I will never forget that ending and therefore the movie itself. fucking masterpiece.

  • Vladimir Petunin

    When I saw this in theatre I was pretty bored after a while. The religious nut break down thing wasn’t doing much for me.

    Then it ended and me and my friends and my SO were there and we just burst into laughter at how amazing and perfect that ending was. I don’t remember how other people reacted but we just loved it. Perfection.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    no, not terrible, in no way a “bad” movie but surly pretty overrated.

  • KarmikCykle

    Stephen King liked the movie ending better than the one he actually wrote for the short story.

  • KarmikCykle

    Stephen King himself prefers the film ending.

  • R2D2

    In no way a ”good” move. Tom Hanks was so dull, it’s a movie about a guy taking a leak for for 4 hours. Overrated indeed.

  • Bleurgh

    Not sure how I feel about this new GOTG movie. It definitely wasn’t as tight, funny or original as the first one, but it did feel like it belonged to the same universe and is still better than most of the repetitive shit Marvel does. It’s a mixed bag.

  • Ret Marut

    Does Jay have his hair cut every day? It looks…it looks…VERY COOL!

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    cant really argue with that 😉

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    “a deep laughter caused by joy.”

    kinda. I laughed because of the balls darabont had to put this ending, but otherwise I was done for the next – at least – three days to overcome my depression given by that very ending.

    I said it, and I say it again: fucking masterpiece.

  • Jazzy Tron

    Interesting- I wondered about that.

  • R2D2

    Beep. beep.

  • R2D2

    He does such grate endings though doesnt he… remember them meat ball things in that airport movie.

  • R2D2

    Hate to break it to ya sister, Jay doesnt have a heart, he’s like the tin man, remember him, or was that the lion, i cant remember I fell asleep through that movie.

  • andychrist

    no expense spent

  • jmt

    What King thinks about the end to his own works should count only slightly more than the committee opinion of a kindergarten class.

  • Padovani

    Talk about the fucking ending!

  • harumph

    The Mist is only 10 years old, so it’s probably a little premature to be claiming that “They don’t make ’em like they used to,” or as Mike says, “They don’t make movies for narrow audiences anymore.”

    Get Out, Neon Demon, The Eyes of My Mother, The Love Witch, The Girl With All the Gifts, Raw, I Am The Pretty Thing That Lives in the House, The Greasy Strangler, It Follows, The Void…

  • LtRazor

    The almost archaic dialogue is straight out of the book. It happens a lot with Stephen King adaptations where the dialogue seems natural when read in the books, but sounds weird when spoken by actors in the films. Good example would be pretty much any line from “Dreamcatcher”.

  • Brian Levine

    Rich is the flying monkey.

  • Brian Levine

    Dunno. The one truly rational person with convictions survived and saved her kids.

  • Brian Levine

    You can’t make a good Stephen King movie without including the bizarre humor.

  • Brian Levine

    When Pac-Man goes bad!

  • R2D2

    Mike’s gonna love it. I can see it now.

  • R2D2

    But this is the guy who brought us The Green Mile. To make a movie THAT bad on purpose requires some skill dude, believe it.

  • KarmikCykle

    Ok.

  • KarmikCykle

    Ironically, going alone probably saved her life because it meant she didn’t have to worry about any of the supermarket idiots giving away her movement to the monsters.

  • DeL Keyes

    I know Mike and Jay didn’t talk about the ending in detail, but their implied justification behind it when they talk about projecting one’s self to the protagonist and how it associates the subtext of human nature…well, it kinda helps me accept the ending a lot. I was among those viewers, one who saw it in a theater, who thought it had a “Fuck You” ending. I still think it was a bit too neat of a dark ending, but I’m willing to see this from a new perspective.

    Also, Mike’s geeking off-topic on something that isn’t Star Trek for once. Neat.

  • Joe Syxpac

    This is just like that episode of Star Trek where Star Trek Star Treked.

  • Brian Levine

    Speaking of awesome endings, I was watching the movie Sing! the other day with my family and I thought “wouldn’t it be great if the movie ended right now?” after the theater collapsed in ruins.

    Of course, I was the guy who wanted Toy Story 3 to end with all the toys falling into the furnace.

  • Brian Levine

    They were tired, boss. Tired of bein’ on the set, lonely as a sparrow in the rain. Tired of having that bosom buddy around, never telling them where he’s going to or coming…

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    “well, it kinda helps me accept the ending a lot.”

    see? cause I thought it was everything BUT a “fuck-you”-ending.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    we get it; you HATE the green mile. and I can understand why. I think. its probably one of these stephen-king-made-for-TV-as-adequat-as-the-book-flics like IT! or the stand. well, its king. almost everything from king looks and sounds *as film* extremly shitty and schlocky. with a few exeptions like this one, in particular those with heavy altered storylines and endings (the shining comes to mind) or those which got no bullshiting fantasy-elements in the first place like the shawshank redemption…sooo, 2 good movies (one of them a FUCKING MASTERPIECE) vs one shitty from darabont, all of them based on a king-novel sounds not too bad for a filmmaker as reputation, right?

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    exactly. do at least a follow-up with HEAVYSPOILER!-warning and DO IT, you fraudulent HACKS!

  • Moist

    Slightly more valuable than the kindergartners but less than the opinions of internet comment message page pundits.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    me, personaly, I am fucking done with those marvelfucks. went down the toilet as soon as they clonend the JossWhedonWittyStyle as their “new” addon-formula for EVERYTHING in the MCU. its not even pleasing anymore from a pure visual standpoint…the camerawork just looks…cheap. was always kinda off since the first avengers, but noticed it wittingly first in civil war. It was like a fucking TV-show.

    “but it did feel like it belonged to the same universe”

    cause thats the only purpose. the brand and its monetarization is all what counts. every movie a fucking trailer for the next one.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    and?

  • wiggle

    I came across this on TV and thought it was great. Especially the end.

    The Green Mile needs to be buried and forgotten, though. Horrible film. Or filum. Why did Mike become Irish at the start of this? Was it a Father Ted tribute? I watched a YouTube video of Americans watching Father Ted. It’s the greatest sitcom in the English language and I wanted to hit them with my brick.

  • wiggle

    And I’m South African. I mean, we’re complete arseholes.

    I’m half in the bag.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    but I have to admit; after putting myself into a trance to experience again what I felt as I saw the green mile…well…-ahem- youre probably right about the overall-quality of that particular movie.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    I can see it now; Max landis is the wicked witch from the west.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    ? I beg to differ; RICH! is most likely the wizard in person. josh is just his frontprojection *as* “thewiZARDOfoZ”

  • Dark Hoffman

    Love this movie!!!! And much better in black and white. The ending is probably the most realistic ending that the director didn’t back away from which gives it a 10 in my book dammit!!!

  • I’m actually surprised he didn’t bring up the immortal Quark conversation with Nog about how if you take away human’s creature comforts we become “as bloodthirsty as any Klingon” when discussing the equivalent scene in The Mist.

  • FiachSidhe

    Very rarely do I disagree with King. This is one of those times. I liked the hopefulness of the book’s ending slightly more. Neither book nor movie is really a satisfying ending for me though. The military showing up at the end of the film is cool though.

  • RLMkeepitup

    a special ending without build up or context is kind of a boring thing

  • I haven’t watched the black & white version but I would disagree with them on one aspect: I don’t think it was necessary to have the movie in black & white to sell it as a “throwback” movie to me. If anything, I find that’s overdoing it a tad, kind of taking the corny into a meta direction.

  • Father Ted is great.

  • Joe Syxpac

    He could have also brought up the ToS episode “Devil in the Dark” where a rubber snot monsters would kill with acid since all the creatures in The Mist seem to have some sort of acid attack.

  • Like Icare

    I was kinda hoping that “movie” would end at the trailer.

  • Like Icare

    I don’t know… to me it feels tacked on and kinda opposite to the ideas in the rest of the movie.

    Cause in the end… order DOES get reestablished. Religious loons ARE proven to be loons.
    Hell… it’s reestablished by the volunteer military force of a democratic society – i.e. a living, breathing social contract established for the good of all, based on reason and rationality.

    Which devolves the horror to just some stupid animals from another dimension – there’s no human horror.
    And the lead protagonist is actually punished for abruptly giving up on his ideals.

    Now… if they were killed by the army… there to cover it all up… THAT would be the “things fall apart, center doesn’t hold” ending.

  • Like Icare

    Wait for it…

    And by “it” I mean the remake, where they’ve pushed it all into ’80s.
    It’s gonna be great.

  • Philip Wilson

    This is my favourite movie of the noughts. I must have shown it to so many people.

    I love the theme the most: that no good (or bad) plan goes unpunished, which carries through from the first frame to the last, and connects the good guys, the bad guys, the army guys, even the guy trying to light the mop.

    People here seem to have taken against the corniness, but it’s knowing, deliberate and sets up the film’s wicked sense of humour. And as for the ending, never before had I seen a full cinema audience lean forward at once. The sense of anticipation during the final minutes was electric.

  • Like Icare

    Hey… it was a low budget production. Even for TV.

    Also, it’s kinda hard to make something eating reality look scary on the screen.
    Remember those “cloud monsters” in movies with much bigger budgets, like Fantastic 4 and Green Lantern?
    One of them was supposed to be eating whole planets while the other one was supposed to be the essence of fear itself.

  • TheVerySpecialK

    A little surprised by this one. Mike and Jay point out that this film isn’t supposed to be a monster film or a traditional horror flick, but is instead intended to illustrate the dark side of human nature. While I understand and accept that, I actually find the manner in which the film conveys its central “human nature is ugly” message to be its weakest aspect: in my opinion, Darabont goes for the low-hanging fruit here, with the clichéd characters and blatant, heavy-handed dialogue detracting from any semblance of subtlety that might remain.

    In other words, it’s too corny to work as a horror film, and far too obvious to be an effective or memorable allegory. Skip it.

  • bernverdnardo

    Did not like. If I wanted to feel like shitt I would just go to the hardware store and use a rubber mallet on my head.

  • RLMkeepitup

    in concept it reminds me of king’s storm of the century tv film, which stuck with me more and does the human nature is ugly stuff well

  • No joke. When I saw this I thought it was going to be “The Fog”.
    I tend to associate these guys with John Carpenter more than Stephen King and I just say “The Fog” for the first time last year.

  • I thought the end of the book was more ambiguous.
    Don’t they just drive off into the mist?
    The military beating the monsters seems more hopeful on the macro scale, even if the characters we have been following being dead (all but one anyway).

  • Bubs

    Every Re:View so far has been about movies that I already love. Which means I love awesome movies.

    #ConfirmationBias

  • It’s a Christ allegory.
    A supernatural guy with the initials of JC is put to death for a crime he didn’t commit by a system driven by bigotry.

    Christ metaphors are often pretty dull.

  • It is strange to me when people point to something a movie is doing deliberately (like the satire in “Starship Troopers” or the hamminess of “The Mist”) and saying that is “objectively bad” somehow.

    They are free not to like it, but pointing to something it is TRYING to do, and SUCCEEDING at doing as a failure is weird. It is like complaining about giant robots in a movie about giant robots. It’s what you bought the ticket to see.

  • Even “True Stories”? Cause I hadn’t even heard of that one.

  • Bubs

    I knew someone was going to call me on that. Yeah, I never heard of it either.

    #LiarLiarPantsOnFire
    #AgeOfTrump

  • I am thumbs up-ing your hashtags. You are big enough to admit you fibbed. Already you are more qualified to lead than many prominent political figures.

  • Wolvy

    Its a cook book!!!

  • Bubs

    Whaaaaaat? I love the Green Mile. No, seriously, I do. I don’t know what you don’t like about it, but I would venture to guess that any problems you have link directly back to the book, because it’s very true to the book. And King’s stories can be very love-em-or-hate-em.

  • fred

    The Mist in color: meh piece of shit
    The Mist in black and white: Holy FUCK this is fucking awesome.

  • frankelee

    I always thought his dialogue was horrendous even on the page, and that everyone overlooked that like they do everything else wrong with his writing.

  • R2D2

    …but Tom Hanks was in it.

  • R2D2

    I dont wanna be buried in a pet semetery, now there’s a movie.

  • R2D2

    CGI is awesome though isn’t it.

  • R2D2

    Yeah like Batman v Superman…. now there’s a subtle metaphor.

  • R2D2

    Peter Jackson is doing the remake, High Frame Rate, 3D, cant wait for the Director’s cut, apparently it’s 15 hours long and that’s just the boat footage, before we even get to the island with Kong.

  • R2D2

    What’s worse The Green Mile or The Da Vinci Code, both have Tom Hanks in them. It’s a close call.

  • Greg

    The Blob is the perfect example of a quality well defined remake!

  • R2D2

    You do realize Steve McQueen is totally gonna haunt you from his grave now right.

  • Bubs

    How can you not like Ham Tonks?

  • R2D2

    Have you SEEN the Da Vinci Code, I rest my case.

  • Bubs

    That’s not fair. That’s like judging George Romero on the strength of “Land of the Dead”. Everyone makes mistakes!

    Tom Hanks is Woody, for christ’s sake! He stormed the beaches of Normandy to save Matt Damon! He’s a hero!

  • R2D2

    Don’t forget Matt Damon, he was in it too, and wasn’t that the best part.

  • Casey D. Mann

    I always bring up “The Perfect Remake Triangle of the 80s” with The Thing, The Fly, and The Blob.
    THAT is how remakes SHOULD be made. Take the essence of the original material, then present your own take on it. Also, all three of those remakes had balls.

  • Casey D. Mann

    I was blown away to see True Stories on Re:View. I used to watch that every time it was on TV, and each time I watched it, it felt like a pleasant story told with good friends by a warm fire.

  • Casey D. Mann

    Storm of the Century is awesome. It would be even better if they sliced out an hour in the middle, since we have already established that if we give him what he wants, he’ll go away.
    Craig R. Baxley is the Darabont of Stephen King films – for television. I appreciate him for that (and for Action Jackson).

  • Angela

    I saw this. I knew when I saw the title that I had seen this. And yet, when I clicked on the video I expected to see a Re:View featuring ghost fishermen and Adrienne Barbeau. I blame this personal failing of mine on Jay’s love for John Carpenter.

    Also, Marcia Gay Harden is a hammy hack. She’s never been not terrible.

  • Jack O’tears

    I was particularly fond of the Body Snatchers remake, as well as the Night of the Living Dead remake.

  • Bleurgh

    I tend to just say that those sort of films aren’t my cup of tea. It does everything right, but it just doesn’t do anything for me. A bit like LA Confidential. It must be great, but it just does nothing for me.

  • DropYourLinen

    She ruined this movie.

  • Jack O’tears

    Okay, we get it guys, you prefer the black and white – move on.

  • R2D2

    His films are boring, because it’s obvious from the beginning how ham handed the message is gonna be… you got it dude.

  • Andy James

    Calling such things failures isn’t necessarily correct (though I don’t think the satire in Starship Troopers is particularly effective), but it would be entirely fair to call them bad ideas. And I think it is fair to call the hamminess of The Mist an objectively bad idea.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    believe it or not; I actually knew people acting like her movie-character in real live. so, no, she wasnt overacting. anoying as fuck, yes, but no overacting.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    da vinci code; cause we dont get to see the catholic spider-overlord of the vatican playing with tom hanks clappy balls.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    “it’s reestablished by the volunteer military force of a democratic society- i.e. a living, breathing social contract established for the good of all, based on reason and rationality.”

    thats another one; the military were the ones who fucked it up in the first place.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    youre right. I take it back.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    “Hey… it was a low budget production. Even for TV.”

    wasnt the problem; it was just boring and totaly unnecessary stretched over 300 hours with way, way too much meaningless exposition. would worked just fine as a 1-hour-twillight-zone-episode.

  • frank dracman

    I get that reference!

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    especially coming from king; cant stand him, when its going the catholic path. can more and more understand why R2 ist hating this piece so much.

  • R2D2

    Balls.

  • R2D2

    It’s gotta be about time for a Cameron Mitchell movie fellas. The fans demand it.

  • But why? It’s the same movie. I don’t understand how extracting color out of the image suddenly makes the movie better. I’m sure it’s fine in black & white but I don’t understand how such a trivial aesthetic could affect the movie’s overall effectiveness. My brain accepted it as a throwback film without that, I didn’t need the image to say “THIS IS A RETRO FILM”. If there was some sort of thematic reason to have it that way I would understand.

  • Criston Sloan

    When are you guys going to ReView one (or all) of the Cornetto Trilogy movies?

  • stryker1121

    *nerd voice* As far as I recall, there are no spider creatures from the Mist that appear in the Dark Tower books.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Spoilers!

    Susanna’s demon tainted child turned out to be a spider. I don’t know if the demon that did that to her was a Mist spider.

  • Mugato

    No one else thought the ending was just slapstick? He agrees to shoot everyone in the car and then himself so he shoots everyone, then shoots his kid and INSTANTLY the cavalry comes in to save them. d’oh!

  • john smith

    The Twilight Zone episode ”The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street” is like this.

  • Mikkel Rasmussen

    One of my wet dreams is that they’ll one day do a Re:View of Rounders. But I guess they have like 745 to go through before that one pops up. Also it doesn’t fit with their great schock tribute.

  • Cream-A-Thon

    re:View, your one stop shop for mediocre semi circle jerks. Next, a tribute to Aaron Eckhart!

  • Lennart Lallemand

    re:View From Beyond next and then mention the best movie of the year The Void

  • marko112kg

    Yeah, that was crap. After all that they kill themselves within two minutes of the car stopping? I don’t mind them doing it, I just don’t think it was set up sufficiently.

  • Figaro Jones

    Just wanted to respond to the general sentiment of “If people hated the ending, it’s because they don’t want their horror challenging.”

    No, I want my endings to have meaning and not just go as dark as possible without provocation. The car ran out of gas, and rather than attempt to make it any further, or continue to fight, they just killed the kid. Then, everything was solved, and it made the death meaningless. It wasn’t thought provoking; it was nihilistic.

    How about they kept going, found shelter, but were going to starve to death? Then, it makes sense that Thomas Jane puts his son out of his misery. Or the car is surrounded by spiders, and they’re all going to die? Hell, I could have even handled the military accidentally shooting everyone. The ending, as was, felt like a 16-year-old goth’s idea of dark and realistic.

  • fred

    Yeah it was pretty funny, but also great in black and white because those muzzle flashes look pretty noir.

  • fred

    and we will have…….peacccccce….

  • Frank Lovejoy

    Bingo.

  • Frank Lovejoy

    It is amazing how poorly Steven King translates to screen.

    The best ‘adaptation’ of his work largely disregarded his story, structure, and constant attempts to influence it. I’ve always felt he’s better at short stories. The minute he has to sustain a long story he has to write characters, and King only knows how to write two characters: himself (and people who think like him), and embarrassing caricatures of people and ideas he hates.

    It’s really quite frustrating. He comes up with truly scary and interesting structures … then fleshes them out with thuddingly transparent characters like Mrs. Carmody.

  • Leo_Silva.

    I just loved the ending.

  • bernverdnardo

    Something always irritated me about Stephen King but I couldn’t put my finger on it, I think you summed it up.

  • Danger Dave

    Red Letter Media is really just a multimedia showcase for Jay’s decade of incrementally improving haircuts.

  • alex doucet

    I agree with Mike in that I would do everything the main character did, everything but SHOOTING MY EIGHT YEAR OLD SON IN THE FACE.

  • Papa Figo

    Stephen King is the Roger Corman of books. He wants to get his story going, and wouldn’t be able to be so prolific without taking a few shortcuts, hence the extravagant or even placehold characters. He just adds a gimmick to each and they are ready to go. And that kind of benefits him, in a book a character needs a little something to be memorable, like Mrs Carmody, the town witch who turns into a false prophet in The Mist, or the old and wise Jud Crandall with his weird speech pattern in Pet Sematary, or pretty much every character in The Stand.

    Fuck, if you want to see transparent characters read The Stand. It has Deaf-mute Kid, Retarded Kid, Guy With Feather Hat, Mean Fat Kid, Pregnant Girl, Old Wise Black Lady, and so on, and each one wears his heart on his sleeve, like a sitcom character. It is a shadow theather, every character is instantly recognizable by a superficial trait. And yet The Stand is one of my favorite SK books.

  • Papa Figo

    Upgrade your triangle to a square now! *read it in infomercial voice*

    Watch Little Shop of Horrors, 1986, the best remake ever made ever! Frank Oz, Yoda himself, directs an adaptation/remake of a musical play based on a 1960 Roger Corman corny horror film. It stars Rick Moranis, and has Steve Martin as a motorcyclist sadist dentist, and John Candy’s disembodied voice on the radio. Even Bill Murray shows up for a bit. And, of course, it has man-eating plants from outer space! Now that takes balls.

  • Papa Figo

    Yeah, but it is like Susan said, that whole deal was main guy’s scheme to get rid of his son.

  • Casey D. Mann

    I’ve seen Little Shop of Horrors over a hundred times, at least. I know it by heart, and I still sing a song from it at least once every couple/few weeks. Yes, that was a ballsy flick. Furthermore, the animatronics are pimptastic. The music rocks… love it.
    The Fly, The Thing, and The Blob are my reference to horror 80s remakes… and even so, Little Shop of Horrors almost fits as a “horror” movie.

  • Papa Figo

    Then my friend horror is not the genre for you. A good horror movie can scar you for life. A jump scare is just a moment, a scary concept can haunt your dreams. Try to describe the scene in words and you will see the diference.

    Not that this movie was the best example of what I am saying, this whole “absence of social order shows people true evil nature” is already a running theme in a lot of movies, notably George Romero’s zombie flicks.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Since we’re in SPOILERS anyway. I’ve always wondered what the protocol was for that situation. Do you start in the back seat or the front seat? If you started in the front, would it be easier to do the child first or second? If you did the lady first she might drop the child onto the floor. Than you’d have to pick him up and dust him off beforehand. If you do the child first than the lady has kid brains all over her. She might throw her hands up to wipe it off and spoil the shot meant for her.

  • alex doucet

    sorry for spoilers

  • Papa Figo

    I think they should all line their heads and use just one shot. It is a nice display of teamwork, and is better for the enviroment since you use less resorces, namely bullets. And if the last in line doesn’t die, he gets a cookie!

  • Papa Figo

    The void had an ok story, and passable acting except for the old hunter, who was terrible even by B-movie standarts. And the effects are probably good, I think I even saw a head explosion, too bad everything was so poorly lit that I coud barely see anything.

  • EJ

    For pharmacy scenes you can’t beat Drugstore Cowboy. “Uh, what’s a transom?” Also having been given dilaudid (legally) post-surgery I can attest it’s every bit as delightful as portrayed in the movie.

  • EJ

    I dunno, I haven’t read all that much Stephen King, but I love both the book and the movie of The Shining, but for totally different reasons. I saw the movie as a kid long before I read the book, and it wasn’t until college that I found out that most people don’t consider the movie to be a comedy. I’m still not totally convinced Kubrick wasn’t trying to be funny – he left out a lot of the scariest aspects of the novel, but some of the scenes, like Shelley Duvall seeing that Jack has just been typing “All Work and No Play Makes Jack A Dull Boy” over and over are masterful dark comedy.

    The book, on the other hand, is pretty terrifying IMHO, because you’re much more inside Jack’s head. Movie Jack is a creepy weirdo from the very first scene, but book Jack seems like a decent sort at first who slowly comes unraveled, and it’s frightening to experience it.

  • EJ

    And you’ve got a point in that Jack from The Shining (the book not the movie) probably is Stephen King through a dark mirror.

  • Papa Figo

    Almost terror? Not only everyone involved dies the movie ends with giant man-eating plants taking over the world. How many horror movies end with the undeniable destruction of Earth? On camera?! Don’t take away the horror of it just because you are laughing and singing along while everything is going to hell.

    Because I’m mean and green, and I am bad!

  • Casey D. Mann

    I love Little Shop of Horrors. It is a very, very dark comedy. I would categorize it more as a tragic romance. The original musical/movie ending is much darker, but of course the theatrical cut is the version most people know about. It is ultimately a tragedy musical dark comedy, with bits of horror elements thrown in. :p

  • Spoiled Ants

    I watched the movie yesterday, since I haven’t seen it since it’s initial release. But I gotta say, it doesn’t hold up. Especially the ending, it wasn’t that horrifying to me, and it felt more like the shock value of a cheap Black Mirror episode. Well, Thomas Jane was great in it, I almost forgot that he had some decent acting chops.

  • Papa Figo

    Yeah, I can get behind that description, I am a guy that describes Twister as an action romance with sci-fi sprinkles.

  • River Eirtree

    Thanks for the intro to a film I should not have missed! Bought the DVD, and looking forward to viewing it in B&W.

    How about a re:View on Carpenter’s The Thing?

  • Papa Figo

    Watch it with your eyes closed. It works even better as a radio soap opera.

  • Summer B

    Leviticus 4:10

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