Rogue One Commentary Track Now Available!

April 29, 2017270 Comments

http://www.redlettermedia.bandcamp.com/audio

Mike, Jay, and Rich Evans watch Rouge One: A Make-Up Story – listen to their exciting commentary as they watch the most boringest Star Wars film ever.

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  • Som

    hooray, something to get me through this miserable day, do I have to watch the film though

  • frankelee

    Just Rich laughing at all the death.

  • Adez

    I usually don’t for these commentaries

  • Adez

    Awesome, Star Wars movies feels empty to me now, though as I argue before Dave Filoni can fix this series people

    I hope they deconstruct the now bigger plothole of the exhaust port, I had no problem with it before but to have an elaborate backstory of sabotage made it worse

  • Avery

    RLM already made three Rogue One videos, and I thought they were a bunch of sourpusses the whole time, but listening to this track is the first time I realized why they actually dislike the movie. This is good

  • Mikkel Rasmussen

    First time trying out RLM commentaries… I like the movie, now lets hear more hate from you guys 🙂

  • CapedBaldy

    Sweet. I have entertainment.

  • CapedBaldy

    We don’t care if you like it :d

  • CapedBaldy

    I mean.. every time they talked about it they present logical points. If you’re not listening like a fanboy that’s your fault.

  • Mikkel Rasmussen

    Well, to be fair, you cared enough to write that. First cyberbully in the house 🙂

  • CapedBaldy

    Yes, I do care enough to make fun of you.
    You should cry more about your feeelings and what funko pops you like.

  • Mikkel Rasmussen

    Aaaw you’re just a sweetie, aren’t you. Cheer up man, things will pick up for you.

  • CapedBaldy

    Your mom picks up my condom wrappers when I’m done with her at least.

  • DoobzMcgee

    Fine , take my dollar , you HACKS ! So much for paying my child support..

  • Mikkel Rasmussen

    She was always into cleaning, glad to hear she’s keeping it up whereever she is 🙂

  • CapedBaldy

    Cleaning my butt for sure.

  • DoobzMcgee

    Wait.. now I have to watch this crap again ?

  • Mugato

    I liked Rogue One and disagreed with pretty much everything they said in the reviews so if it’s just going to be more of the same I think this’ll be the first commentary track I’m going to skip. Unless I get really bored someday.

  • Mikkel Rasmussen

    Though I like the film, right off the bat, they are right about Jyn’s back story. Really weird they did nothing to set up she was in jail.

  • Mikkel Rasmussen

    I’m 33 minutes in and they are really going all out on it. They made a point of saying they don’t “hate” it but mjeah…

  • Rick Sanchez

    i can feel the power of the mike side.

  • TheVerySpecialK

    Nothing wrong with liking the movie. Everyone has their own interpretation and view on things; such is the subjective nature of art. Me personally I can’t stand Rogue One (or TFA, for that matter), but that just proves my point: everyone is different, and there is nothing innately good or bad about that.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Wait, this looks familiar somehow.

  • Spoiled Ants

    The whole first 20 minutes reminded me of Batman Begins but with all the flashbacks cut out that explained the character’s background and motivation.

  • Avery

    I just wasn’t paying much attention to the story when I watched the film, and I thought the scenery was nice and it was ok to have just a tour of the universe without much of a story. I didn’t realize how much of it is grounded in “they showed a Star Wars thing and I clapped”.

  • CapedBaldy

    So you just watched the opening skit and ignored the rest then? Good to know you have a short attention span. No wonder you like star wars.

  • Berggeist

    now this is comedy

  • junkevil

    wait, he’s a cyberbully for saying no one cares if you like it? that’s all it takes to be a cyberbully now? ffs, kys.

  • Mikkel Rasmussen

    First time trying out RLM commentaries… I like the movie, now lets hear more hate from you guys 🙂

  • junkevil

    That reminds me of a star trek tng episode with a time traveler called Rasmussen. He said he was from the future, but it turned out he was from the past, and stealing things off the enterprise to take back to the past with him so he could “invent” them. I think the lesson to be learned here is not to trust you because you’re just going to try and steal my stuff.

  • Mugato

    Hey that guy played Max Headroom IIRC

  • junkevil

    don’t forget the lawnmower man 2!

    AND IMDB JUST TOLD ME HE WAS ALSO IN A LITTLE FILM CALLED ISHTAR!

  • gopher00000

    I’d post a witty comment but I have to shower now. I feel a little gritty.

  • RLMkeepitup

    at least watch the teaser first to get up to speed

  • RLMkeepitup

    I REMEMBER

  • RLMkeepitup

    everyone is very chill in this commentary. why is Rich so deeply in touch with the expanded universe? rogue one is a comedy

  • Bubs

    I’m not sure why you’re being so cunty. Avery is being perfectly reasonable. If you’re just trolling, you’ve come to the wrong place. Most people don’t give a dick here.

  • Bubs

    I think it’s more than “some of the film”. I saw this turd in theaters and remember exactly 3 scenes. The opening scene where General Badguy parks his spaceship 5 miles away and needs to walk, the part where some guy gets mind-raped by a squid monster for no reason, and the part where Darth Vader shows up and does awesome Jedi stuff before they show a terrible CGI Carrie Fischer. I don’t even remember any of the character’s names.

    I mean, people complained about TFA being made from OT leftovers, but Rogue Yawn has literally nothing original in it.

  • Bubs

    Because he’s a neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerd.

  • I laughed at Mike’s analogy that this movie is basically like a D&D campaign. I could picture the movie pulling out at the end after they all get brutally murdered and they’re all sitting in a room playing David Cronenberg’s Xistenz.

  • DanceOfBirther

    His name is Orson? Now the ending of every Mork and Mindy makes complete sense.

  • Joe Syxpac

    3…2…3…4… 4…2…3

  • Andrew Carter

    What was Felicity Jones’ character’s crime and why do the Rebels treat her like garbage once they free her? Even if she killed someone it was probably an imperial agent or pirate or slaver or SOMEONE of ill repute. And aren’t Mon Mothma and Jimmy Smits engaging in sedition and treason against the legitimate government of the galaxy? Their crimes are much worse than hers and yet they all but threaten to execute her “for her crimes” if she doesn’t go along with them.

  • Joe Syxpac

    That’s what we in geek circles call a TPK (Total Party Kill).

  • Endless Trash

    That’s the brilliance of RLM, they can bring the sarcasm and goofiness, but then come in with some Grade A Film School stuff. It’s INFO-TAINMENT!

  • Endless Trash

    Some poor effects team probably spent a year on that mind-rape squid thing and it didn’t matter one iota to the plot.

  • Omis

    She had sex with a Wookiee.

  • RedLetterMediumsDotCorn

    Whoa…this evaporated my moisture. Thank you!
    Although this means I’m gonna have to see Rogue One

  • Omis

    Basically all you have to know is nothing happens for 78% of the movie. An awesome battle happens for 20% movie. And some guy is cosplaying Vader for 2% of the film.

  • RLMkeepitup

    its very gritty though, its the best of the spin off films, its dark

  • RLMkeepitup

    cg tarkin will haunt your dreams. its a solid pretty cool/very cool

  • Mike Magnum

    That funny. I don’t remember a Dead Horse in Rouge One. It must be in The Super Special George Lucas Cut of the film.

  • Omis

    Yeah I can finally enjoy Star Wars as an adult.

  • Stud

    Wampa Stomper: A Star Wars Story

  • azicat

    Grandma Tarkin!

  • Joe Syxpac

    Leia was way worse/better.

  • Dental Plan

    Well, I for one am glad that I can finally take Star Wars seriously

  • Kawaii as Fuck

    In fairness to the director, Gareth Edwards, I get the vibe that Disney sliced and diced this movie to death, had we gotten the director’s original vision it probably would have been better.

    As to why Disney did that, who knows.

  • Carol

    Who cares about character’s backstory when you can have Darth Vader using his lightsaber??!!!

  • ima420r

    I bought the commentary track for Rogue One. I hadn’t seen the movie yet so I played it with the commentary for my first viewing. It was as if they weren’t watching the movie at all and instead just talked for (approx) 2 hours. No complaints, it was the best dollar I have spent in a long time. Will buy more.

  • Spoiled Ants

    I got persuaded last month by a nerd (former friend – now acquaintance) to watch the Bluray, and I say this: it’s not a bad looking movie, if it wouldn’t be so boring it might have been a decent picture.
    But I have no clue how people can love or even hate that movie, the film is playing it very safe with one of the blandest protagonists since James Cameron’s Smurf movie. Sure they all die at the end, but by then I’m wondering why I can’t even remember one name of the whole ensemble cast.
    I don’t know why Grand Moff Chocula had to be in the movie, but it felt like he had more screen time than Mads Mikkelsen who had a much more pivotal role in the story – (see I called him Mads Mikkelsen because I don’t remember the character’s goddamn name again). That to me, proves that they are not really interesting in telling that particular story, just any story will suffice to blow smoke up nerds asses.
    They might as well be honest about it and call it
    ‘Rogue One – Some Star Wars Story…Yadda Yadda Yadda you know the drill, give us your ass-wallets’.

  • Spoiled Ants

    It’s probably there for a half a second, so that 10 years from now, we get the same story told from the horse’s POV and his heroic death when it gets squashed by a giant AT-ST.

  • Spoiled Ants

    She probably killed some younglings, it’s kind of a thing in SW.

  • Spoiled Ants

    I don’t think that’s much of a problem when I see characters in SW like that Butt-face guy, I mean he must’ve had a mother too, right?
    I can see Ewoks being off-limits though.

  • I think it’s vastly understated just how corny the dialogue was, like in a really bad way. I can do campy – I’m down for that. But this was like… confusingly campy. Like 50s B movie campy? I mean seriously. I didn’t watch this movie all the way through without the commentary but my dad (being a sci fi dad, he loves falling asleep to stuff) had gotten it on DVD the other week so I managed to catch the very end of it. And good god. When they started chanting “I am one with the force, the force is one with me” I wanted to leave the room in embarrassment. Like that’s just bad. I mean I know “use the force, luke”, but that was like kind of meaningful and it meant something? The ghost of Obi Wan was telling Luke to believe in himself, he didn’t have to rely on targeting technology. He was one with the force. In this they were just like… tossing it in there? You could apply that logic to anything. “I am one with the pizza roll, and the pizza roll is one with me.” That’s just. Bad.

  • Omis

    Yeah but it’s still taboo. Space conservatives don’t put up with it.

  • andychrist

    is spock in this film?

  • RLMkeepitup

    replacing a real in the flesh babe will always be a worst idea

  • Around minute 59 Jay expresses my feelings quite well, “this is the moment I was watching in the theater when I gave up on the movie.”

  • Jerome Gorden

    This movie exudes irrelevance. Even with the commentary in the background, you can feel its total lack of substance. You just don’t give a shit what’s going on. Even the prequels were more entertaining than this movie. How is that even possible?

  • RLMkeepitup

    its symbolic, they’re beating a dead horse even mentioning the film

  • RLMkeepitup

    buckle up for the next installment and/or character story film by Disney™

  • jimmy

    I still liked RO a lot. I won’t watch this, nor the commentary track. This is the only stuff they’ve made that I can’t agree with. I suppose that’s fine, and perhaps I am thinking that Star Wars will now be like Marvel with too many movies/tvshows/products and will dilute the brand. But I can’t argue with myself that I loved RO. I almost like it better than TFA. BTW: I’m convinced that Rich Evans is the money behind RLM, that’s the only reason why he’s on nearly every video they make.

  • Brian Levine

    Facts. Give us facts. Why exactly do you love RO?

    Personally, I liked it, but way too much fanboy stuff, and I HATE the concept that the Death Star was designed to be easily blown up.

  • Brian Levine

    Are we gonna get a movie about how not-Yoda found Luke’s blue lightsaber? I desperately want to know if his hand was still attached to it.

  • Brian Levine

    But, but, but…It has Star Wars stuff in it! Did you not even see Ponda Baba???

  • jimmy

    Meh, I don’t care about the Death Star designed to be easily blown up. And yes, I’m into the fanboy stuff, perhaps because I didn’t think TFA did enough of that, but instead I kept finding excuses to like it despite the flaws: remake of ANH, being able to see a planet lightyears away from being blown up, somehow having Luke’s old lightsaber, having a superweapon that need to suck an entire sun’s energy away, yet was already used once, and then would appear to not be used ever again, somehow having a “first order” that had the resources to build that huge thing, and not having any space battles. I liked Tarkin in this, I liked the look and feel of the production, and yes, I loved Vader doing his thing. I liked seeing all the references. Yes, I liked that. This was the movie the prequels should have been. I make no excuses for having the exact attitude that the RLM fucknuts are teasing me for.

  • Brian Levine

    That’s no horse…it’s Bea Arthur.

  • Brian Levine

    Rogue One has a better story than TFA. TFA has better characters than Rogue One. Both are flawed. Not really excited about paying $13 to see a fan film, but I’ve now done it twice.

    I’m hoping that Mark Hamill can elevate TLJ.

  • SeekerLancer

    I liked it better than TFA too, but that’s not saying much. As a movie it was kind of bland. Weak characters and very little story. It’s full of Star Wars fan porn and that’s undeniably fun but everything else is just so forgettable.

  • SeekerLancer

    I am ready for VVampa.

  • Brian Levine

    Val Kilmer is going to need to slim down for that Jek Porkins backstory movie.

  • Bubs

    How do you know you can’t agree with it if you don’t listen to the commentary track? “I have no idea what you’re going to say. All I know is it’s wrong.”

  • Joe Syxpac

    Are we gonna finally get a movie that’s all about CGI Grandma Tarpon?

    I also want the early adventures of “You’ll be Dead” guy and Butt Face.

    How about a Storm Trooper movie? The big twist at the end could be it was just a drill.

  • jimmy

    Because I don’t feel like listening to them shit on something I liked. I’m not asking to be proven wrong. I just want to enjoy what I enjoy.

  • jimmy

    After the prequels and the mediocre TFA, we deserved to have SW porn. So I’m fine with enjoying that. I truly feel like RO is the best Star Wars film since 1981.

  • jimmy

    I really, really, REALLY hope Mark Hamill is able to more than Yoda in ESB. Having Yoda fight with a light saber in the prequels was BS, for all the reasons Plinkett described. But having Luke actually do more than stand and talk and philosophize would be a major win for the next movie.

  • Andy James

    There’s nothing inherently wrong with liking something for fan service, no. Ultimately, the original Star Wars movies were fun adventure stories with themes that can be found in a zillion stories from the beginning of written history. The only important effect they had was on special effects in movie making.

    That said, there is something wrong with you if you complain frequently about people making fun of you liking something for its fan service elements as so many people did after their original review. I’m not talking about the jimmy, here.

  • Bubs

    M. Night Shyamalan is currently working on a treatment for a movie based entirely on Chewbacca called “The Colony”. It’s about a colony of Wookies who live in a backwater forest town and strange events start happening. The big twist is that they’re on Endor.

  • The Wicker Man (BWF)

    Star Wars: Rogue One isn’t a family member. It’s a cold unfeeling product, birthed by a cynical corporation using the peer pressure of the faux nerd culture they’ve created to force nostalgia fans and people without an identity into being a human cash crop. It’s okay to make fun of it, but being offended by criticism to such a level reveals how hollow this franchise entry really is and how their strategy of peer pressure works.

    What do you like about Rogue One? What makes it memorable and engaging as film? Honest questions. I hear their side, I legit want to hear from someone who likes it.

  • Bubs

    I like how restful my sleep is when it’s on.

  • The Wicker Man (BWF)

    *Orders bluray immediately, pours lunesta down the toilet.

  • jimmy

    I don’t get why I have to argue why I like something? I did, I loved this movie, I walked out texting people to see it. I’m not trying to convince anyone here, I just am tired of RLM trying to convince me I’m a fool for liking this. And frankly, I’m 46 and was 7 when ANH came out. These guys are younger than me, so yes, I’ll take the position that these movies belong more in my childhood than theirs. They’re wrong, and are childish in acting like they’re not. (And I think, even moreso than now, that Rich Evans is their “money”, why else would Mike move from Arizona to a shithole place like Milwaukee?)

  • Bubs

    I don’t think Wicker Man was trying to be antagonistic. I think he just wanted to know what you find to be enjoyable aspects of the film. Personally, I thought it was the most bland toy commercial I’ve ever seen. But maybe I’m wrong? Maybe there’s something that I missed? Maybe the characters are deep and engaging in ways I haven’t thought of. Maybe the story is so complex and well-crafted that my pea-brain can’t parse it. I believe this was the point of his question – to get the other side of the story.

  • Andy James

    There’s a lot to unpack here. First, you don’t have to explain anything. You also don’t have to state in a comment section that you disagree with someone’s opinion that they backed with arguments. It will save you the trouble of having to answer questions about why you disagree with them in the future.

    Second, they aren’t trying to convince you that you’re a fool. They’re just making fun of you.

    Third, I have no idea what your age has to do with anything, but if you’re this emotionally invested in a mediocre movie at 46, it’s sad.

    Fourth, I’m not sure where your Rich Evans conspiracy is coming from. Mike’s accent is clearly midwestern, meaning he probably came from Wisconsin in the first place and decided to move back at some point. It’s also adorable that you think Arizona isn’t a shithole.

  • Bubs

    I also liked that I can finally take Star Wars seriously now.

  • The Wicker Man (BWF)

    If only they make another side story film as useful as Rogue One. I need one to cure opiate, alcohol, and gambling addictions. The Han Solo one should fix at least two of the problems though.

  • The Wicker Man (BWF)

    I want a quirky drama from the creators of Birdman. Michael Keaton stars in “Mothman, A Mothma Story”. Also starring Lena Dunham as a young Princess Leia and Jimmy Smitts as Bail Organa trying to help his young daughter find direction and stop claiming blue milk is cultural appropriation.

    *Spoilers: The blue milk comes from Lena after a surprising pregnancy at the end of the movie and a tacked on time travel plot device.

  • The Wicker Man (BWF)

    I KNOW.

  • The Wicker Man (BWF)

    This isn’t art though. It’s a product.

  • Spoiled Ants

    Yeah, yeah. It didn’t escape me that Disney bought the corpse of Star Wars, and therefore asks the masses to pay money to have a peek at it once a year.

  • Spoiled Ants

    That was my first thought, but then this second thought came along and it made much more sense.

  • Endless Trash

    It’s Punda Bubu. Get it right.

  • Joe Syxpac

    When the twist is revealed Vader is going to step out and say.

    “Noooooooooooooooooo!”

  • Mugato

    I hear “fan service” a lot. So what? I’m a fan, I want to be serviced.

    So what if the AT-ATs aren’t practical in the swamp. They weren’t practical on Hoth either. They’re not practical, they’re just cool. You could make the argument that there was a lot more “fan service” in Episode 7 but who cares? How does that make it a worse movie?

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    I just watched Space Cop Saturday night after my friend bought it for me as a gift. It was the worst thing I’ve ever seen & I loved every minute of it.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    1:42 – 1:53 gets me every time.

  • TheVerySpecialK

    Well, it’s technically possible to call anything that represents a humanization of form “art.” That’s why we have “modern” art exhibits that consist of paint flecks spattered on blank canvas. While I will agree that Rogue One is a blatant corporate product, I still contend that it is art all the same.

    Think about it: if Rouge One wasn’t art, then how could it be critiqued? Indeed, the very act of critiquing the film based on broad artistic categories such as ‘characters’ and ‘story’ confirms it as artwork. If it were not art, then critiquing it in this manner would be as useless as applying the principles of character and story to the movement of dead leaves rustling in the wind.

  • Bubs

    They already have a cure for that. It’s called bleach.

  • Mike Magnum

    Personally while i didn’t love TFA. I felt like the characters in rouge one were more cold and lifeless to me. I mean yes rey is a marry sue. Yes Finn is there to make her look good. But i still had fun with these characters. Especially Finn, who while cowardly. I still found really likable and kinda cared about him. Also the movie gets a Boost Because its got fucking Harrison Ford as Han Solo. Everyone in Rouge One was boring and uninteresting. Except for maybe Donnie Yen. Frankly when i go see these new Star Wars movies. Im not expecting a Masterpiece. Because that boat sailed away long time ago. (I believe Jar Jar was the captain of that boat.) Im just expecting something entertaining. TFA was that. And Rouge One was not.

  • James Schulz

    Yeah Thx, I bought that movie only for that commentary-track. Burnt money. Now give me the Waterworld-commentary right now or… in the near future.

  • The Wicker Man (BWF)

    I’m around your age as well, but my point is this: What did you like about it and why? Can you not explain why you had fun? Is that telling that you only get defensive instead? I legit want to know, but calling someone who has valid critical views “childish” doesn’t help your case, especially as a f*cking 46 year old grown as$ man. Also, Rich is like 100 years old. 😉

  • The Wicker Man (BWF)

    I legit want to know what he likes, and I think the tone in my intro is a bit condescending, but I was attempting to match the vibe he put out. I really want to know know what he thinks and why he likes it. If he does, he should be able to make an argument just like the hack frauds did. This is proper debate over a work.

    I admit I also sullied the waters with my initial tone, and it damaged the discussion. I WANT TO BELIVE though.

  • The Wicker Man (BWF)

    *Goes to Sam’s Club and just feels like I took them for all they are worth on that .69 cent bleach price. *chugs sweet bleach with vodka. 😉

  • MrJohnClarke

    They’re gonna get a bail-out, aren’t they?

  • RLMkeepitup

    i liked rogue because it did something that didn’t feel like copying a new hope. after force awakens that was a nice bit of fresh air. im also a bit tired of comparing to the original trilogy and all the nods/winks to it. mike gave force awakens a pat on the back but farted all over rogue without much logical deconstruction. been a bit subjective as of late but that’s taste

  • Brian Levine

    Over a month since the last actual movie review. How did we not get a Ghost in the Shell HITB?

  • Brian Levine

    When it’s what you remember the most, “it’s worse.”

  • Jim’s Father

    Star Wars is worse than cancer.

  • Jim’s Father

    Because it was empty and there’s not much to talk about?

  • Mugato

    Try that again with a coherent sentence.

  • fred

    There’s good jobs and there’s bad jobs but mostly baaaad…

  • Imaf

    Mike & Jay just don’t get it: Rogue One is a different genre than the other Star Wars films. You have sixty seconds: list your favorite five characters from Saving Private Ryan, and give me a characterization scene, or describe the character arc, for each of those five. See–a war film isn’t about character arcs. Don’t try to hide behind a single definition of a good film and think that it doesn’t change depending on the genre.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Are you saying Rogue One is on the same level as Saving Private Ryan?

  • Brett Burrett

    It is now my turn to say “I’d buy that for a dollar!”

  • Brett Burrett

    Well that’s subjectivity for ya, you can’t explain fun, only state that you agree or disagree with another person’s idea of it. So some people got something out of Rogue One. I say good for them. All I got was annoyance and a boner thinking about the chick from Underworld.

  • Kenlin Bros

    AT-STs! AT-STs!

  • Brian Levine

    Exactly.

  • Brian Levine

    I think he’s saying Ponda Booboo was in Saving Private Ryan.

  • Brian Levine

    Le crayon est sur la table.

  • Spoiled Ants

    Saving Private Ryan isn’t a very good example. It’s one of those movies that was a huge success, but got kind of forgotten, I wouldn’t call it a great film. I don’t know if it’s because of the characters, the downer ending, the overly-melodramatic patriotism or because Band of Brothers did a much better job of a WWII drama.
    But at least it devoted most of it’s running time to the soldiers, and not half an hour about a Nazi general trying to impress his commanding officer with his shiny new tank.

    I think Aliens is a much better comparison, maybe not in tone, but a lot more people are familiar with Aliens. And most of it has to do that they like the marines, almost every one of them is quotable. None of them have really an arc either, yet people still love ’em. You know why? It’s about empathy. We like hanging out with those characters, even if some of them are assholes, but their likeable or interesting assholes.
    In Rogue One, the characters are neither interesting nor very smart. In fact they are total strangers to me. For some people this is a deal breaker, for others it’s a minor nitpick and they find satisfaction by seeing the black costumed Nazi take out his light saber and pierce it into the warm flesh of the good guys.
    It’s totally normal, I guess.

  • Yeah I was actually just thinking about how we all love Hudson even though he’s a whiny little bitch. In fact – that’s largely WHY we love him. He’s a character. He has traits! A personality! Things you want in a movie. You don’t NEED a character arc, no, but in a story where you already know what’s going to happen? You kind of do I think. You need something there to prop up this “they’re going to get the plans” nonsense.

  • Brian Levine

    That’s an interesting analogy. Hudson, Vasquez, Hicks…all more compelling characters than anyone in Rogue One, at least for me.

  • Spoiled Ants

    Imagine a character in Rogue One having a meltdown like Hudson:

    “Game over, man. Game over! What the fuck are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do?”

  • Wow… they made the title even more accurate.

  • Brian Levine

    Can someone clear this up for me? I thought that no one except Leia’s ship escaped the battle at the end of Rogue One. So how exactly do Red Leader and Gold Leader survive? Or did I miss something?

    BTW, I don’t dislike RO. I just don’t feel compelled to watch it over and over the way I did when Star Wars first came out.

  • I didn’t even think about this but I find this even more annoying that they didn’t explain it and then killed off her character – so they never have to. I mean it’s not like I was interested in her character to begin with – but it’s kind of weird to set all this stuff up and never do anything with it. We’ll literally never know – because the writers don’t know… or care for that matter.

  • Brian Levine

    “Hey Jyn…have you ever been mistaken for a man?”

    Actually, 3PO had lots of little meltdowns in the OT. Loved ’em all.

  • fred

    I would be tolerant of Californication if it wasn’t for all the moral hypocrisy. “Becca, how DARE you have sex and do drugs as a young hormonal teenager! SHAME on you!! SHAME!! Now if you’ll excuse me I’m gonna smoke a cig, get hammered and cheat on your mother like I do every episode.”

  • I was kind of turned off by how everything was blue. I think that’s my main problem, every time anyone says “but the movie looks great” all I can think of in my head are lots of blue rooms, and at the end there’s a few AT-AT’s behind some trees. None of it really popped out to me as particularly striking imagery. I’m sure the effects were great – but I didn’t notice. My eyes were glazed over at that point. And no, I don’t care about all the space battle shit – that’s just a bunch of CG nonsense clusterfucking around. If it had been a lot of intricate stuff done with real models and practical effects like back in the old days I might actually be entertained – but I am more immersed in the space battle scenes in Babylon 5 than I was in this. And those look like they are straight out of the PC game Descent that came out in 1995. But you know what? I understood what was going on. I suppose I owe some of that to their consideration of real-world space physics (not something I expect in Star Wars), but I think it’s also because it just wasn’t confusingly executed and I cared about the characters. If I wanna watch “cool things blow up cool things” then I’ll just play a video game.

  • Brian Levine

    Sorry, but I can’t watch Mulder without going into explosive projectile vomiting.

  • Spoiled Ants

    I can imagine the writers haven’t put as much thought into it as you.
    But I honestly don’t begrudge them for not resolving something, that was clearly nothing more than just a cameo role.

  • fred

    It has some great moments (like the “I love rubbers” line from Runkel) but overall it’s TV trash.

  • fred

    This is GOLD LEADER — approaching the TARGET SHAFT NOW!!

  • Brian Levine

    And that’s my biggest problem. The cameos served no purpose. They’re just more crack for the fanboys. As cool as the last scene with Vader was, when did we ever see him do anything close to that in the OT?

  • Spoiled Ants

    I would maybe replace ‘man’ with ‘human’.

  • fred

    LOCK S FOILS IN ATTACK POSITION!!!!

  • fred

    rrrrrrrVVRRRWOOOOOOOOSH — PEW OEW!!! BBRRKAnfkldsfASDFKASDJFSKADFASDFN!!!!! waaaaaaaaaaa

  • fred

    I want Star Wars to last forEVER!!! I want all my favorite starwars things haha.

  • fred

    Google Play has a 99 cent deal for first time rentals! What a value!

  • fred

    But there was so much crying. Did you know that war is sad? I know I sure didn’t, but the movie showed me the truth, which is why I voted for Bush a 2nd time so he could end the war in Iraq.

  • fred

    It’s trying to spread like marvel.

  • fred

    Because it’s a bland people pleasing pile of shit. Ohh noes that hot bitch is not Chinese — what the fuck do we do NOW?

  • fred

    My debit card wasn’t working and I ended up accidentally spending over ten bucks to rent this piece of shit. Thanks RLM.

  • Spoiled Ants

    I hear ya, I voted for him the 3rd time.

  • Spoiled Ants

    No one mentioned that Mike made a valid point with the Star Destroyer ‘floating’ in the atmosphere. When I saw it in the movie I remember it irked me, but I haven’t put any thought into it. Then again, I’m not a total NERD like Mike and was more interested looking at my watch for the rest of the film.

  • jimmy

    Sure, I understand you all want to know why I loved RO so much. More than likely though you’ll just argue against why, I don’t expect nor care to convince any of you. I am indeed tired of RLM making fun of me over it though, and not actually hitting the points as to why I like it. This isn’t a fucking debate club, I can write that I loved RO it, that RLM is wrong, and that Rich Evans is over-exposed and needs a good cock punch. Yes, I’m 46 and if the best argument you can play back at me is that I’m acting immature, than I suggest you look at where we’re posting to, and what we’re posting about. If you think that getting older means giving up your frivolous and more child-like behaviors, than you’re likely the most boring person I’d ever meet.

  • Brian Levine

    Star Wars is not science fiction. It is space fantasy. Moreover, we saw this at the end of that second prequel pile of crap.

  • Brian Levine

    I checked with Mike, and it seems that he was indeed making fun of you personally. That bastard,

  • Brian Levine

    What really scares me is that I’m almost ready to say that I enjoyed Independence Day (the original) more than Rogue One, for the same reasons. Comic book characters spouting cliches? Check. But still more compelling characters.

    Trying to imagine Rogue One had Roland Emmerich directed it.

  • Andy James

    There are some decent comedic moments buried in there, and the first season isn’t entirely up its own ass. Any season after the first was a hate watch for me though. The whole series is essentially a writer’s masturbatory fantasy.

  • fred

    It does have lots of porn.

  • Bubs

    I just assumed they used some kind of space magic to keep floating there. I mean, this is a universe with FTL space travel, people who use blue and red laser swords and throw rocks with their minds, and Jar Jar Binks. Not really a big deal. Also, the Star Destroyer wasn’t there for any real reason, and pretty much just wanted to look cool. Which it did. That was a pretty bad ass shot. It’s like they made a whole movie of “Trailer Moments”.

  • fred

    I was aware that Star Destroyers could somehow hover in the extended universe. That was thrown out? Ok well now they just hover whenever wherever except for ice planets ’cause that freezes up the thrusters.

  • fred

    It has some great moments like the “I love rubbers” line from Runkel but overall it’s TV trash. At least there’s porn.

  • RLMkeepitup

    yes they simply use a ForceField® accessories sold separately

  • fred

    Gotta put food on the freedom fries.

  • jimmy

    Am I really being teased by someone that though Jurassic World was a great movie?

  • jimmy

    Or ones that made Space Cop?

  • Thanatos

    Most of them escape. You see a bunch of the rebel ships go into hyperspace right before Vader’s Star Destroyer pops out and starts shooting up the place.

  • Thanatos

    They didn’t serve no purpose – it would have been very odd if those pilots WEREN’T there, given they’re supposed to be the rebellion’s top guys and Episode Four happens like 2 days later.

  • Thanatos

    Yes we know it’s gritty, and you can finally take Star Wars seriously.

  • Thanatos

    I think they would be the least effective in a large densely packed forest, yet you see them there on Endor in Episode 6. So…..obviously no one cared then, why would you care now?

  • Thanatos

    Someone’s defensive.

  • Bleurgh

    It was one of those shows I would watch an episode of if nothing else was on, but wouldn’t follow closely, like Burn Notice. How did Burn Notice end? Did he ever figure out who burned him?

  • Joe Syxpac

    I’m just wondering why it’s okay to compare Rogue One: A Star Wars Story to Saving Private Ryan but not okay to compare it to Star Wars.

  • DM

    Are you referencing Jar Jar Binks as a good example of something. Well well how the mighty have fallen. Chalk this one up to a low Midichlorian count, or George Lucasistis which, is a real disease, trust me, I’m a doctor, kind of.

  • DM

    That was cool, until the remake ruined it.

  • DM

    You been drinking again haven’t you.

  • DM

    To soon.

  • DM

    Now there’s a movie.

  • DM

    Cameron Mitchell and David Carradine should have been cast in this movie. And Len Kabasinski should have directed it.

  • DM

    I don’t know how you live with yourself.

  • DM

    At least Captain Phasma wasn’t in it. There’s half a star right there.

  • DM

    That movie doesn’t age well.

  • DM

    I did, it was called Beauty and the Beastzzzzzzzzzzzz……

  • DM

    What about hand jobs.

  • DM

    Also, Tom Hanks was boring in it.

  • DM

    Have you SEEN Godzilla… lol.

  • DM

    *nonmedy.

  • DM

    Anyone seen the movie ”Star Wars: The Clone Wars”. It’s got Jabba’s son in it – a baby Jabba called a ”Huttlett”. Now that is some funny shit. And it just proves George Lucas has a sense of humor, something Rogue One and The Farce Awakens surely lack. That’s the problem with this Disney craaaaap. There’s a severe lacking of the Jabba family, and that’s never a good thing. Obviously George Lucas is the missing link here in this chain. And everybody knows it.

    #BringbackGeorge.

  • Bubs

    Actually I was using him as an example of something you can’t really take too seriously, like blue laser swords. The death star would’ve been a better example, maybe. Super cool, but totally impractical.

  • DM

    Yeah, good point. Fine line that isn’t it. A fine line that can make all the difference.

  • Andy James

    You get that you can ignore stuff you don’t like, right? And that nobody will ever know or care as long as you don’t post a comment about that thing you’re planning to ignore in its comment section? I mean, you can do whatever you want. I just don’t get what you’re trying to accomplish here. Getting it on the record that you like Rogue One? Okay, it’s noted.

  • stryker1121

    Is this just two hours of you hacky fuckers snarking on the movie?

  • Joe Syxpac

    David Carradine was in it. He was the rebel that got choked by Vader.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Fatties don’t get no redemption.

  • jimmy

    If that were true, I’d think that was real cool, in fact.

  • jimmy

    Yes, I am. My opinions usually are right along with RLM’s, so to find that they hated RO so much, it did indeed hurt me. Like many here, RLM are almost personal friends to me.

  • jimmy

    I thought RLM was a community? If you had a friend, and you went to see RO together, and you hated it, but your friend like it, wouldn’t you argue and keep the conversation going for a while about it? With the amount of hours I’ve spent watching, and rewatching, these RLM videos, I feel I have the right to bitch when I think they’re wrong, even if I don’t have the eloquence they have to prove myself right. Fuck you RLM, and Andy fucking James….

  • DM

    Is Vader a God damned Nazi, was that his elf.

  • DM

    #Fatshaming.

  • Andy James

    But you didn’t argue. If the conversation goes:

    Party 1: I think this for these reasons

    Party 2: I disagree.

    Party 1: Why do you disagree?

    Party 2: I don’t want to say.

    That ends the conversation.

  • Brian Levine

    Is that the one where Anakin amazingly doesn’t suck and be annoying as hell?

  • Brian Levine

    Umm..speaking of overthinking this, why was the medical frigate part of the attack force in the final battle?

  • DM

    Yeah, because the voice actor wasn’t Hayden Christensen. It’s a professional voice actor.

  • DM

    The man made Godzilla… have you SEEN Godzilla lol. Hmm Speaking of Olsen twins I think it’s time to masturbate.

  • primitive screwhead

    These guys are so pissed off that everybody didn’t hate this movie. Get the fuck over it.

  • Brian Levine

    I don’t think they hated it. I think they were annoyed that it lacked the charm of Star Wars but still felt obligated to through in as much fan service as possible.

    Besides, I’ve watched every episode of the Nerd Crew, and I’m certain that they had nothing but glowing praise for RO.

  • Brian Levine

    “I’ve got a problem here.”
    “Pull up!”
    “I can make it…”
    “Eject!!!”

    Uh, eject to where, Biggs? The surface of the Death Star that you’re about to blow up?

  • jimmy

    Fair enough. I liked that we got a Star Wars movie that was more simple than the epics the others have been. I liked seeing something in the same universe but was telling just a single story. I liked the blind guy and his buddy. I liked seeing Tarkin, and liked that he was more than just a background character. I didn’t find his CGI as jarring as others do (but Leia was a bit off, but worked for me since it was brief). I loved Vader, his I too find his “hip-swing” when we first saw him silly – weird that you can almost tell its a different person in it. His battle at the end was awesome, I loved seeing him in action! I wish we got more of him in the bacta tank, that was pretty cool. The battle at the end was great too. I think the movie did a good job of showing the empire’s power, yet vulnerability to the rebels. I also found it well acted.

  • Brian Levine

    Oh no! The moderator has a red lightsaber!

  • Andy James

    There you go. I disagree with you for the most part, though I did like the blind quasi-Jedi. I think he could have been used better and fleshed out a little more, but he at least had something going for him. I just wish the movie was something more than it was. As it stands, it’s a mediocre story with flat characters. I don’t like the fan service elements as much as you do. I also don’t agree with Rich’s statement that the Star Wars universe is inherently limited. I think this could have been a good movie if the characters and story had been better written, like pretty much every other mediocre to bad movie. They even discuss how it could have been better.

    Personally, I’d have preferred a Dirty Dozen-esque story where a disparate group of characters come together and are forced to bond. Around the midpoint, they get a little taste of success together, and then they prepare for the suicidal mission. It has a somewhat similar structure to that, but it doesn’t do any of the character work necessary to make it satisfying. Mike’s Star Wars 11 story would have worked as well.

  • Bubs

    It’s a good thing he posted. My “Who likes Rogue One? Census” was nearing completion, but I was missing someone. Now I can die in pain happily.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Very cool.

  • Jaws

    Dirty Dozen is one beautiful movie. Right up there as one of the greatest WWII movies ever made. One of the reasons it works is because, it does flesh out the characters. Well said sir. In fact it’s pretty much what I thought at the time.

  • RLMkeepitup

    no May the 4th jokes? i understand

  • Brian Levine

    “May the Fifth be with you. I keep my fifth right next to a picture of my dead wife.” – HSP

  • Brian Levine

    Can you guess who said this?

    “In regards to the hate toward this movie, we should go into that a bit. If you’re one of those people that gets that upset over this movie, you should probably stop watching movies altogether. In a world of Jack and Jill’s and What to Expect When You’re Expecting’s and movies like that, an ambitious but incredibly flawed sci-fi film, if that’s what get’s you horribly upset then there’s no hope for you.”

  • Andy James

    Is the implication that they’re horribly upset by Rogue One? To the extent they’re horribly upset, it seems to be by fanboys who overpraised a pretty boring movie because it had Star Wars things in it.

  • Thanatos

    The funny part is how wrong you are, which you’d find out if you listened to the commentary. Since you literally don’t know what you’re talking about, those opinions can be ignored.

  • Thanatos

    “We’ll….uh…make sure to pick you up later!”

  • Brian Levine

    No, and I understand their point about RO (I mostly share it). It’s sort of what happens when fans go nuts in either hating or loving a movie.

  • Andy James

    Ah. Gotcha.

  • Brian Levine

    I just found it a bit interesting to hear the guys defending a film they mostly liked against a fan base that hated it.

  • Jaws

    So, it’s best not to have an opinion, at all, about anything. Well I guess that’s one way of staying out of trouble.

  • Brian Levine

    Well, he did cover Biggs when Biggs took out the deflection tower.

  • peterablex

    Now look what you’ve done, you made me watch rogue one again

  • peterablex

    Also, I’m 67% sure that space is pretty cold

  • peterablex

    Que dois-je faire avec ça?

  • peterablex

    Nope, the force awakened it and it will make it’s own appearance in Dead by Dawn: A Star Wars Story. Christmas 2019.

  • Imaf

    RLM should have done a commentary on TFA: you know, the bad Star Wars film? 😀

  • Imaf

    Non sequitur. That’s like saying that SW Ep 3 is on the same level as Citizen Kane (See Plinkett review of Ep 3). The characters in Saving Private Ryan are forgettable, because the film is about group consciousness and patriotism–it speaks to people’s group emotions. Rogue One does that too with its use of images and symbols from established SW films. To a lesser degree, the original Independence Day does this too–with a theme of unity and human cooperation against an external thread. See, RLM doesn’t like these types of films because they are about more than just following the trends of what is popular among film critic cliques. A film can have forgettable characters and speak to a greater emotion through pre-established symbols. Critic cliques are about resisting pre-established symbols in favor of new approaches to cinema.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Even if you consider the characters in Saving Private Ryan as forgettable (which I don’t) the actions they take and the events surrounding these characters are memorable. The movie sticks with you long after the credits roll. I haven’t seen SPR in years but I can still recall many of the scenes vividly. I saw Rogue One last week and I’ve already forgotten what happened in it. The characters are uninteresting, the choices made are uninspired, and the events are forgettable. Even Independence Day, which is a big pile of manure in my opinion, has scenes that are memorable. All Rogue One has is a nazi that slices up some people with a light saber as it’s high point.

  • Thanatos

    Well sure, he drew all the fire……..

  • Sorry, but I actually would like to know who said this?

  • Brian Levine

    It was Jay during the Prometheus HITB review.

  • Joe

    I’m watching this commentary, and I give them credit for trying to be fair to a movie they clearly didn’t like but most of their criticisms were basically giving the movie a hard time for not being more obvious. Like they are critical that Donnie Yen’s character doesn’t have an arc when it comes to being skeptical of the force, but then his helper guy has that exact arc, but since it isn’t overly highlighted like everything is in a movie like Jurrasic World or TFA they act like the movie has no arcs.

    I can accept it isn’t the movie tonally you want it to be, but I still think they are missing the point the fans of the movie have, it does pretty much everything you want in a movie, it’s just not painfully obvious about it like some other movies are.

  • Brian Levine

    I was once tased by someone that thought The Departed was a great movie.

  • Brian Levine

    Of course it’s Very Cool. It’s freakin’ Milwaukee.

  • Imaf

    Joe, the difference is that “the events surrounding these characters” in RO that “are memorable” are so *if* you are enmeshed in the SW Universe, and are part of that audience. Films are based on positionality here, and this is a fan-film made for, well, fans, as RLM noted. SPR’s events are memorable because they are *actual history*, and are addressed to an audience made up of people who appreciate real history. War films are not built on characterization–they are built on events of significance.

    Addendum: The original SW film did not include characterization really–it included Jungian *character types.* Reluctance isn’t motivation, and change alone does not make a character arc. In TFA, Finn has no arc, only a change from reluctant to less reluctant–and if anything it’s a repeat of Han Solo’s return, but nothing really unique to Finn.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    But everybody dies at the end.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Any more fanservice and the Dancing Bear franchise would sue for copyright infringement.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Go on.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Before I saw The Departed I had to pahk my cah in the yahd. It was wicked sweet though. Go Red Sox!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I’m sure Neil DeGrasse Tyson has something science-y to say about that that won’t make me want to punch him in the face.

    This is a space opera franchise, not hard science fiction!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    **uses his mind to throw rocks at Jar Jar Binks**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Without moral hypocrisy American civilization would collapse in on itself like a dying star.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Action and vistas. Me personally …
    **detaches jaw like python, drinks from Big Gulp oblivious to the fact I’m on camera**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Is someone auctioning off Ivanka Trump?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “There’s no crying in war!” — Tom Hanks in A League of Their Own

  • Pop Culture Reference

    It lacks a character played by Vin Diesel, since his character in Saving Private Ryan and Riddick are part of the same Shared Cinematic Universe.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Go bowling?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    All those sub-prime mortgages on Tattooine, amirite?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Mersee buckets.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Storm Trooper Marksmanship Academy: A Star Wars Story.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Sounds like he has a bright political future. America loves defensive incoherent nitwits.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “I’ve never read the Koran, but all I know is that Muslims are moon-worshipping devils in human form. Paper or plastic?” — An American political science scholar.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I liked Rogue One for its gratuitous fanservice and realistic CGI characters.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    You sound like Grandgrind from Hard Times. That book was awful!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    My anime body pillow respectfully disagrees.

  • Joe Syxpac

    I’d buy that. Saved the universe only to die on some shit backwoods planet.

  • jimmy

    Funny, you missed my actual typo — but still, yeah, I can see being tased by someone that thought The Departed was a great movie, it was a good movie, but not great. They handed Scorsese the Oscar to make up for all the other brilliant films he made before. He’s a bit too latched to Leo though, like it was to DeNiro years before, but DeNiro >>>>>>>>>>>>> Leo.

  • jimmy

    ??? Have you been skipping your meds?

  • jimmy

    The comparison of this movie to The Dirty Dozen is fair, but in doing so, I think people are adding more reverence to TDD than it deserves. I love TDD, but its not the character driven story people are making it out to be. Think of TDD: how many characters can you name (not literally naming, but describe)? Most only have Jim Brown, Charles Bronson and John Cassavetes. I’ve had friend argue that Donald Sutherland isn’t in it, that I’m thinking of Kelly’s Heroes. And forget that Telly Salvalas is in it. Its a movie all about Lee Marvin. RO actually did better making the side characters heroes in this movie. And I also see nothing wrong with having a movie, set in the Star Wars universe, that is fun and doesn’t have to be another chapter in the saga, nor have to explain more about the force. After the god-awful prequels, RO is the movie we wished one of those was, and we got it. Got back and see TFA again. Its not any better than RO.

  • Thanatos

    Have you been skipping the commentary track? But keep acting like you know anything.

  • Cody Klein

    There’s kind of a difference between being upset, horribly upset, about a movie… and using a movie the entire crew disliked to squeeze content out of.

  • Bill Hiers

    The same reason ambulances and medics accompany soldiers into battle.

  • Bill Hiers

    Grand Moff Chocula was in it because he’s an important Imperial character. It’d feel weird if he wasn’t in it since it deals so heavily with the Death Star.

  • Bill Hiers

    They list off her offenses while questioning her. Mostly it revolved around theft of Imperial documents. They’re hard on her after freeing her because she has a history of fighting under Saw, who is an extremist who’s cut his ties with the Rebellion, and, considering her father is one of the primary designers of the Death Star and is seemingly willingly cooperating with the Empire, there’s a little bit of guilt by association/sins of the father mentality going on with her interrogators.

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