Red Letter Media Talks About Alien: Covenant – SPOILERS

May 26, 2017161 Comments

Mike and Jay have some more questions about the black goo.


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  • Kenlin Bros

    Yay, a reason not to ki-

    Ah, fuck it. I can kill myself while watching!

  • Joe Syxpac

    Can I watch you watch this while killing yourself?

    I need something to masturbate to.

  • Kenlin Bros

    Something something black goo.

  • DanceOfBirther

    Synth Popular, it’s on SoundCloud. I’m not sure what the other song is.

  • Jaws

    Don’t worry fellas, the answers to those questions and more, I’m sure, will be in the sequels.

  • gopher00000

    RLM’s been into the Xanax again, I see.

  • Ret Marut

    Let’s not overthink this “opportunity.”

  • frankelee

    This franchise will be as big as Star Wars. Except replace Jedis with a black alien creature that tries to murder everything. And replace light sabers with having your chest burst open. And replace the Force with a milk-blood robot who tries to murder everything.

  • the answer is alien jizm

  • The reason David thought the Xenomorph was the “perfect organism” was because that was a line from the first movie spoken in Ash’s monologue. Also bundled with that statement was the perfect movie explanation for why a space alien just wants to murder you – “it’s structural integrity is matched only by its hostility.” – great monologue though.

  • Joe Syxpac

    We’ll finally know who created the engineers. Something that has been nagging me since 1979.

  • Urdus

    Killing the Engineers is the most logical action in this movie. They wanted to kill us. To prevent that from happening again we have to kill them. Even Shaw should have come to this conclusion that she is risking humanity, all life on earth, by just showing up there. Making them realise the “black goo earth” mission failed. They had to die.

  • TheVerySpecialK

    And Kevin Bacon.

  • testi

    Why did David cause an alien going riot on the big spaceship if he also had the plan to wait until the crew is back in hyper sleep? was it to have the movie have some scenes with an alien going riot on a big spaceship?

  • Bigman Smallface

    I’m finding it really easy to forget Prometheus and Covenant exist. Whenever I rewatch Alien I still see the space jockey as a mysterious fossilised alien, not a big shiny man in a spacesuit, because that’s all really fucking silly. When I see the alien I don’t see something that was created by a robot that really liked Lawrence of Arabia, I see an alien, of unknown alien origin, with alien behaviour. 1979 Ridley Scott knew what he was doing.

  • Bleurgh

    Am I the only one who would have preferred it if Ridley Scott created a Gladiator cinematic universe as opposed to an Alien cinematic universe? Different cast, good quality actors, some story loosely based on history story set in Ancient Rome. Maybe set it a few decades after the the original. Man, I’d be all over that shit.

  • Spoiled Ants

    I skipped a good part of this video, not much comedic nutrition when you only list plot holes and 90% of YT videos doing the same schtick.

  • Spoiled Ants

    There was a batshit insane script for the sequel written by Nick Cave, I think it included time travel and crocodile people.

  • WhiteWhale

    Why do people do anything at all? Why bother getting up in the morning? Why do people waste their time respiring, secreting, excreting, and perspiring?

  • Bleurgh

    Yeah, the reason being they wanted to crowbar Russell Crowe into it. Not that.

  • frankelee

    Hoping to get laid.

  • ZB4e1

    No. Do or do not; there is no hope.

  • ZB4e1

    Something something something complete.

  • TheRealBadHatHarry

    You mean a cinematic universe that makes sense? That comes preloaded with ideas and characters that could justify any number of movies? Be silent! Sensible ideas are not welcome in the house of Scott.

  • TheRealBadHatHarry

    But David has the same ambition to wipe out humanity. He’s not “us.” If Shaw had done it, maybe.

    In any case, this movie is too stupid to warrant serious speculation.

  • TheRealBadHatHarry

    Is that you, Tracey?

  • I think it’s important to note since they brought it up – I don’t think anyone, even fans of the comics or the games give two shits about the AvP movies, and I’m sure they never consulted with anybody involved in previous alien/predator projects to keep it a coherent “universe” – so it’s probably not very important to mention it. I mean the first movie didn’t just retcon the other movies, it retconned human history – the idea that predators are responsible for building the pyramids or helping us understand technology or whatever was the biggest eye-roll for me. I’m not even sure why the first one was made – I know why the second one was: because the first existed. But the first one came out at an odd time – the last Aliens vs Predator game was like 3 years prior and not exactly a world-reknowned smash-hit in the video game world, and the next one not coming out for another 9 years afterward – and then the previous comic book was like 4 years ago before the film was made. And I don’t have any knowledge pertaining to their worldwide popularity – but I wouldn’t imagine it to be a well enough known franchise for the studios to say “we need to cash in on that”

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Nah, the answers will be on disk 27 of the extended edition, in an off-hand comment behind-the-scenes made by an intern delivering donuts to the crew, buried in the far background….

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    The first AVP started production shortly after Freddy vs Jason made big money; that’s the reason the film was created. Scott and Cameron were reportedly working on a 5th Alien film when FvsJ came out and the project was scrapped.

    Also, AVP was the most financially successful Alien movie at the time (according to Jay, anyway).

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    It seems easier to just have Crowe back as his heretofore unmentioned twin brother, Minimus Septimus Meridius.

  • Bleurgh

    Freddy vs Jason is possibly one of the worst movies ever made.

  • Bleurgh

    Preach.

  • Brian Levine

    You guys should create a segment where you do this for every movie. You could call it “Everything wrong with…”.

  • Brian Levine

    1979 Ridley Scott didn’t write the script.

  • SerialOffender

    I am pretty sure that if i landed on a planet filled with water and plant-life, yet lacking in any animal life; i’d barricade myself in the ship, seal all the holes and entrances possible, put all sensors on overdrive, unleash a swarm of all survey bots to search the planet while keeping a few around the ship, wear the biggest most durable armor suit i can get my hands on (or build one however i can in absence of one), arm myself to the teeth, and start setting up traps everywhere i can while i search for a way to get the ship to get off the planet. If the ship can go back up though, i’d retreat like a proper space-cockroach and give a middle-finger to that planet and whatever caused the lack of animal life in such a friendly ecosystem.

  • Robotpals

    It was fun to speculate about their origin. I figured they were a weapon built for a war long over (some sources even call the alien spaceship where they find the eggs “the bomber”). It was probably just this one mission that had a mixup, the pilot getting killed by his own weapon, and the civilization that created them just went extinct on its own, long after the war was over. Millions of years later, these humans stumble across the wreckage of a long forgotten and irrelevant war. Then, horror. The most horrible thing being the absolute inconsequentiality of the humans.

  • Joe Syxpac

    What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?

    Yeah, I know.

    Don’t care.

  • Joe Syxpac

    I was kinda hoping for a Thelma and Louise franchise myself.

  • Andrew

    While your second sentence is correct, I don’t think that David intentionally let the second alien loose on the ship. I think it was in that guy who had the second facehugger on him for about half a second before they cut it off and he got that bad burn on his cheek.

    I guess it just takes a half a second to implant an alien in you now.

    Anyway, I just think that no one knew he was infected and the movie was so poorly written and directed that it never told the audience what was going on.

  • Andrew

    But did they? One of them apparently wanted to, but does that mean they all did? And he was in suspension for a million years. Maybe the main society had moved on by then.

    Maybe they all wanted to kill us. Too bad neither movie had a coherent idea of who the Engineers were or what they were doing or what they wanted.

  • Andrew

    You guys missed my biggest problem. If David created the aliens, then why was there a crashed Engineer ship on LV-426 with a cargo full of alien eggs? Where did they come from? Where did the Engineer ship come from if David killed them all? Why did Shaw reattach David’s head after he killed her boyfriend and knocked her up with a space squid? Oh wait, that’s a different complaint…

  • Bigman Smallface

    He didn’t, but he took on that script and turned what would have been a B-movie into a film far classier than was ever intended, by making excellent choices in design, casting and scoring.

  • Urdus

    very good questions. For the Shaw/David paradoxon: she maybe simply doesn’t know. Some fans even think spacejokeys and engineers are two different races because difference size. And that there was a civilwar between them. (I think that’s nonsense, Scott made clear they are one and the same in Prometheus) Another one had the idea that the David plot happens million years before “Alien”. That we watch a different human race than ours. Would be a mindblowing twist but I doubt both humanitys would end up with a Weyland Yutani company. And if we calmly think about it would the Prometheus Engineers really travel with Alien eggs around? I think now, after Prometheus, the crew of the Nostromo would find black goo (and a smaller spacejockey) instead if Scott would remake that movie.

  • david dallas

    71% drop from the opening weekend…I think we can safely say now that this tried franchise is dead. It’s to bad we never got a proper sequel to the Aliens.

  • david dallas

    I think the bigger compliant is your latter comment. Shaw rebuilding David is dumber than taking your helmets off on an alien world.

  • Hank Schkorio

    What if David created the gladiators?

  • Hank Schkorio

    But who created the person that created the engineers?

  • Hank Schkorio

    Thank you Didley Squat

  • Bleurgh

    2 Thelma 2 Louiseious

  • Grandpa Seth

    Am I crazy or is this just Prometheus all over again? The David stuff was interesting, but the rest of it tho … And why tf would you be beating in the shower while the ship is in full alarm lock down and most of your crew mates are dead? Were you two hired by Weyland to come to this planet and beat all day?

  • Joe Syxpac

    Damnit!

    How am I supposed to sleep with that question on my mind?

  • bernverdnardo

    Im willing to look past a lot of plot holes, but why did breathing the black stuff make people impregnated with an alien? Then what is even the point of the eggs and facehuggers? And if the alien-sperm black stuff was already on the ship then why is David talking like he created the aliens? They make this crap so convoluted for no reason.

  • I don’t think the Xenomorph’s facehugger is “another species”, I’ve always viewed it more as a disposable exoskeleton/shell that the yet to be planted fetus inside is part of. Once it impregnates someone, the shell is then lifeless, indicating that it is just a dead husk.

  • Frank Lovejoy

    “Except replace Jedis with a black alien creature that tries to murder everything.” – They already tried casting Sam Jackson!

  • Frank Lovejoy

    You think you’re depressed? I finally saw “Hell or High Water”, after waiting a long time and hearing how great and intelligent and minimalistic it is. It’s a pile of shit. “Why y’all robbin’ thuh bank? Y’all ain’t even MEXICAN!” and two cops who supposedly worked together for years trading expository dialogue about each other.

  • Frank Lovejoy

    You should know in advance that these movies will suck. This reboot of Alien was heavily influenced by Damon Lindelof, the biggest hack screenwriter currently extant, who thinks he’s deep because he injects hamfisted religious imagery into everything he writes.

    When you have a screenwriter whose deepest idea is “ooh, what if God … HATED US!! And WANTED TO KILL US!?!”, you’re going to have problems.

    And how dumb is Diddely Squat that he thought that was deep, and then brought up the crucifixion stuff in interviews?

    These are people making movies about alien chestbursters who really think they’re writing literature. That’s the fundamental problem.

  • belovedwarlord

    They mean humans, not the facehugger. They can’t breed without implanting someone else living.

  • Vector

    Thank you guys, thank you so much! So damn funny.

  • James Ridge

    Ridley’s just following in his brother’s footsteps, only more slowly and with less pizazz.

  • Grandpa Seth

    Ridley you fuck, you introduced the idea of the Engineers in Prometheus, and made getting answers about our origins from them a huge part of that movie. Then you just wipe them out in a flashback without providing a single answer. Did ya get too drunk at your writing desk that day or something?

  • Ohhh yeah I get it.

  • Omis

    Then do a follow up video about how the movie should have ended.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Donald Trump’s excreted black goo + Marla Maples’s lady-syrup = Ivanka Trump
    **sees self out**
    Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Try the veal!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “I taught him everything he needs to know about tightly plotted narrative construction.” — George Lucas

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I imagine those hamfists aren’t halal.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “Someone that’s living? Phew! I’m safe!” — Steve Bannon

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Sounds too complicated. Send a squad of Space-Temps and Space-Interns to explore and/or be used as cannon fodder. Also, they would wear red shirts.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    You mean like “Honest Trailers”?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Did Freddy vs Jason have a midichlorians as a pivotal plot element?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    — Samuel Beckett

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Have you ever seen a grown man naked?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Would it be part of the Life of Brian Cinematic Universe?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “it’s structural integrity is matched only by its hostility.” — Curated one-star Yelp review of Trump Tower Dubai.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Or they’ve been doing shots of Acetone again.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I thought the Consultants created the Engineers?

  • Hank Schkorio

    Do you mean have I seen a naked grown man, or have I seen a grown man while I was naked? Or both naked at the same time?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    You could build a wall around your eyes. Or fire James Comey.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The plot is so convoluted even Thomas Aquinas left the theater confused.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    You ever been to a Turkish prison?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Ash vs. Thelma and Louise

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “A black alien creature that tries to murder everything? You mean Barack Obama?” — Breitbart comedian Josef von Gerbelles

  • Hank Schkorio

    Not since the Midnight Express 🙂

  • Pop Culture Reference

    What’s your vector, Victor?

  • Lexi Express

    No no its not a story of humans stumbling on to elements of a horrifying, mysterious universe we are unable to cope with or understand. Its a minor standalone pre-sequel to a tale of how we’re at the centre of all known life in the galaxy. And something about Jesus.

  • Lexi Express

    Even though in Alien its pointed out the hugger is slowly pumping genetic material into the guy’s body. Apparently they have ready made eggs that fire out straight away. I’m guessing the 1979 facehugger had erectile disfunctions.

  • Hank Schkorio

    lol
    You live up to your name 😀

  • Joe Syxpac

    Originally David was programed to create the perfect orgasm, but there was an issue with the spellcheck during data input.

  • Movie Wan Kenovie

    The Engineers were introduced in Prometheus, but the Executives introduced themselves in Covenant. That’s the reason for it all.

  • Movie Wan Kenovie

    It’s easier than committing suicide.

  • Chris Wootton

    The more they try and explain things the further away it gets from the original. Ridley Scott is just pissed that everyone liked the sequel more than his film for a while. I’ve got a bad feeling about the Blade Runner sequel..

  • Spoiled Ants

    My question was: what about the other Engineers who were on vacation when David dropped the mic on that fateful day?
    And where was Dustin-Hoffman-Engineer who could’ve prevented the Outbreak™ from spreading?

    On a funny side note: Prometheus apologists claim that those weren’t the original Engineers.
    Engineers my aaaaaids.

  • Spoiled Ants

    They also have to be virgins.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Certainly not kosher either.

  • Spoiled Ants

    “Why did Shaw reattach David’s head after he killed her boyfriend and knocked her up with a space squid? ”

    That’s very easy to answer: when you are a newly single woman, travel space for a couple of weeks and there’s no other men around than Michael Fassbender’s head. You can bet your ass that she would have reconstructed him faster than light to get some fender bender action.

  • Urdus

    I believe it bothers him more in what direction it went and he wants to show us what could have been. For example dead Shaw was a hommage to Giger. Same goes for the Engineers. But nothing of that, Engineers, Gigers art (except the xenos) can be found in the sequels. And all his heroines die now. I think that’s not a coincidence either.

  • Spoiled Ants

    Looking at a recent Russell Crowe picture it seems easier to hire John Goodman now.

  • Brian Levine

    I got a bad feeling that David is going to show up in the Blade Runner reboot.

  • TitusAndronicusForever

    And while you’re at it, tell us some things we (probably) didn’t know about it.

  • Michael Collins

    My wallet says no.

  • Brian Levine

    We come here to get away from political crap. Only movie crap allowed.

  • Brian Levine

    No Pirates of the Caribbean XII review? But you guys LOVE Johnny Dapp.

  • Andy James

    It’s made $160 million on a $97 million budget so far thanks to $100 million from foreign markets. You will definitely get to complain about another sequel.

  • MonkeyKing1969

    Ridley Scott took the interesting mystery of how the engineers of “Alien: got there, what they were doing, and what happened and tuned it into a worthless narrative that was 10,000x LESS interesting. Directors over age 69 should just be told they can’t make sequels to anything in their career that’s WAS good.

    ….Hey, Riddley why not clear up some mysteries in “1492: Conquest of Paradise” ? Or, maybe remake “Kingdom of Heaven” over and over again until it doesn’t suck.

  • bernverdnardo

    With the exception of George Miller (Mad Max)

  • To everyone here: thanks for putting up with me and having conversations with me about my nerd rants.

  • Agreed, it was creepier when the mystery was “what is that weird mummified thing and how did it get there” – but you didn’t really expect the answer because the mystery is what gives way to the horror movie. Now they show you what the fucking thing is, tease the answer and then don’t do anything with it after that.

  • EJ

    Well, the undead have historically been underrepresented in US govt. The Trump administration is actually pretty progressive in bringing Bannon in.

  • EJ

    It’s like he’s trying to make the black goo consistent with the black goo in District 9.

  • EJ

    Except you’re still stuck with the idea that the ultimate weapon created by a futuristic race is a barely controllable, semi-intelligent monster. I mean they would presumably be capable of building nuclear weapons…

  • EJ

    They could also be curmudgeonly older cops who are 1 week away from retirement.

  • Ryan Gosling will be the Son of Blade – and he will fight xenomorph vampires.

  • Frank Lovejoy

    Wow, what a masterful switch-up, Plop Culture Reference.

  • Frank Lovejoy

    “Mohammed? I want LESS hammed!”

  • Hank_Henshaw

    $165 (now) woridwide box office from a $97 million budget, isn’t really that good. Remember that $97 million is without adding the advertising costs. It’s only at $64 million domestic. If there is a sequel they’ll need to slash the budget by, at least, a third.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Shouldn’t the movie be called “Alien: Covfefe”?
    **sees self out**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Only 10,000x? You’re being charitable.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I’m waiting for the inevitable Lone Ranger sequel.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Ron Perlman to co-star.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    What about when Donald Trump had a cameo in that Home Alone movie?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    By jumping off a bridge?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “Even I write better jokes than that.” — Salman Rushdie

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The beta cuck waits while the master baits.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I have to disagree with you there. Bannon isn’t undead, he is actually a rotting corpse being piloted by a tiny alien. Luckily the GOP is full of not only dead corpses (see the US Senate for examples) but also animated by dead ideas.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    If the first Lethal Weapon movie taught us anything, it’s that attempted suicide is funny.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Except for Jack and Jay, I don’t think the word “nutrition” is used a lot at the Red Letter Media Compound/Food Trough.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Now there’s a campaign slogan I can get behind.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Unlike the Biblical Cinematic Universe. A talking snake? A burning bush? Creationism?

  • Andy James

    Yes, but marketing is nebulous. I know the typical estimate is to double the production budget, but I’ve never bought that as a real number. It also hasn’t finished its run and home viewing sales will bump the number up by some degree. The point is, it’s making a profit on some level, which means it will get a sequel. Though, sure, they could constrain the budget on it.

  • Mike Magnum

    Now that Wonder Woman is the Best Superhero movie of all time. Better than Citizen Kane. Will Mike and Jay apologize to all the DC Fanboys and Eternity kiss there asses..

  • DanceOfBirther

    TIL: People are still triggered by the phrase “Let’s roll!”, because 9/11 was bad. This of course has nothing to do with Alien Covenant, but back to 9/11.

  • DanceOfBirther

    Citizen Kane is a superhero movie? Now I have to rethink this.

  • Mike Magnum

    That the reason he wanted Rosebud so bad. Its no ordinary sled.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    9/11 had less black goo and every Engineer knows jet fuel can’t melt steel beams.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Can’t wait for the RLM Commentary Track for Alien: Covenant!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Kane vs. Gettys: Dawn of Love Nest

  • Bubs

    You can listen to it right now if you load up their “Alien” commentary track. Just imagine a lot more “What? Why?”s in it.

  • Makkon Farstriders

    You guys bring up Alien multiple times and conclude that if it isn’t broke don’t fix it, but to be fair Aliens was actually quite a bit different from Alien, and it might be the better film.

    Oh, and Covenant was worse than Prometheus.

  • Spoiled Ants

    “Those eggs were a lie Steven….a Liiiiiie! They gimme no nutrients!”

  • Jaws

    Why was James Franco in this movie.

  • Bleurgh

    A 93 percent Rotten Tomatoes score isn’t enough to make me go see another DC movie after the abomination of Suicide Squad. Especially since Ghostbusters got 48 points more than it deserved based on the fact that it empowered women. Do you think these hackfrauds will review it?

  • Bleurgh

    Still a parasite is hardly a perfect organism as it depends on the existence of hosts and this particular parasite also seems to want to kill potential hosts for no reason once mature.

    Here’s an idea for a good alien movie. Maybe an Alien film set on the planet where the Xenomorphs originated, where humanoids have formed a truce with them and regularly sacrifice members of their species in exchange for autonomy and safety in their own territory. Maybe some Earthlings land and save one of the girls who was meant to become a host, fucking everything all up.

  • Bleurgh

    That’s how the protomorphs worked, then David did a bunch of gene splicing with the black goo and different animals to make the xenomorph Queen that came from Shaw and laid the eggs.

  • I’d watch that.

  • Alien succeeds at being a sci-fi horror film just as much as Aliens succeeds at being a sci-fi action film. I have a hard time deciding which is my favorite.

  • They explained this all in the documentary “Loose Plot Threads”

  • Bleurgh

    Also maybe an interesting third act would be the the Protagonist going to the centre of the hive or whatever on the Alien part of the planet, apologising to the Alien Queen for rescuing the girl and making a new truce. The Queen agrees because she realises that if all the drones kill or kidnap and impregnate all of the humans then the Xenomorphs will go extinct.

    It would actually be kind of a happy ending because it’s about solving problems through diplomacy and respecting the customs of foreign cultures.

    Oh and maybe, surprise twist, one of the survivors who goes back to Earth on the Earthling ship got impreganted whilst on the alien planet.

    Also, maybe it’s a planet that doesn’t spin on it’s axis so the light side is the humanoid side and the dark side is the Alien side. Is that too on the nose? Probably I don’t know I’m making this up on the spot.

  • fred

    I think a fully loaded 747 at ramming speed would do something to some steel beams.

  • fred

    Where’s the movie about how the Nostromo got 30,000,000 tones of precious minerals?

  • fred

    He’ll stare at Ryan Gosling.

  • fred

    Alien really is the only one you should see.

  • Jaws

    God I hope not.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Suicide Squad felt like a made for CW movie. The special effects were laughable. Diablo’s fire effects looked like some random Youtuber did them. Viola Davis phoned in her performance.

    Rotten Tomatoes is a joke anyway. House II has a 0%. In what world does that make any sense?

  • RLMkeepitup

    So.. is this worse than Man of steel? May catch this on tv in a couple months when I get tired of them The Fugitive re-runs!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Goo? When did this turn into a discussion about 90s-era Sonic Youth?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Now don’t go gumming up this thread with your objective observations and scientific understanding of how airplanes and chemistry works. We 9/11 Truthers hate that shit, man!

  • Papa Figo

    I want Ridley Scott to make a prequel showcasing the life of young Emperor Palpatine, and his love triangle involving Master Yoda and some Engenieer chick during their highschool year studying abroad in Pandora. I believe the three of them created the Ewooks for a science project.

  • Papa Figo

    Actually I saw it as metagenesis, like the plants do. The haploid and diploid stages are separate individuals in alternating generations. So the facehugger would be a badass kind of pollen.

  • fred

    JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I didn’t know the 9/11 Truthers had a Patreon?

  • Summer

    Slide Whistle – The Movie.

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