Pre-Rec: The Banner Saga

May 15, 2014586 Comments

Rich Evans and Jack discuss their first impressions of The Banner Saga, a role-playing game about Vikings.


Filed in: Previously Recorded

  • Maya Angelo

    Enough jerking us around, give us the Kabasinski interview you frauds.

  • Nick K

    MORE VIDEO GAMES

  • stefan

    Rich should be the one facing the window; he’s so pale. Then again Jack isn’t exactly Mediterranean-looking either.

  • stefan

    it’s probably a patreon exclusive. curse my poverty. I need to start a patreon page to fund my RLM addiction.

  • Mads Bolding Fenger Poulsen

    50 seconds in, and what I see is Richus Christ talking about a viking game. I can already feel my body and spirit uplift to…

  • sepiajack

    Curse you RLM I should have left for work 11min ago, but couldn’t leave without watching this first…

  • LeighB

    I feel like the wizard could join on these. Have a nice three way.

  • Man I loved Banner Saga. Maybe I’m a lot more into viking cultures and so on than you guys, cos I fell directly into that world.

    Quite a few massive exaggerations in this review as well – War is first used maybe 2 hours into hte game (if that).

    Also I don’t think they really need to explain what happens when your morale gets low – if the people are scared/upset then they’re probably going to run away/kill themselves/be more hopeless/whatever.

    And half the strategy of the combat and levelling is making sure that you spread the levels around.

  • AceRay

    Please do FFXIII, that piece of crap game is going to make you go crazy if you thought this game was poor for introducing new features late and going slowly.

  • Clanker

    Please never have an outro.

  • Foggy

    Guy what da heck, what a disappointment. I really dont see all the problem you mentioned, Most thing said were completely wrong, i really felt the story engaging and the fight part well made, although i agree with the exp points part, that could have been made differently. But the sense of danger of one of the campaign and the will to reach a certain city (hence the oregon trail feel) on the other campaign are really felt trough the dialog. Ofcourse if you miss reading those you’re not gonna understand anything. I do agree that is too much verbose for a videogame, and a more visual storytelling would have improved the overall game, but is not badly written at all. Maybe you guys were drunk the whole time… i dunt know… But i have the strong feeling you were half drunk and didnt care much about the game in the first place rather than giving a thorough examination.

    Forgive me for my english, is not my main lengauege, i hope you understand what i said.

  • Liam

    who edited this? made it very funny, ontop of already enjoyable hosts.

  • Robert Fitl

    Do what I do and watch it AT WORK… Of course, I have a terrible and pointless job.

  • Big Mclargehuge

    I for one loved this game.

    (Pssst, keep Rich, lose Jack for this particular show. The zing king can play alone!)

  • Big Mclargehuge

    Morale also adds penalties to your party in combat if its low

  • Павел Солонков

    I totally agree with you on this. I managed to play it for about 3 hours untill getting horribly bored and never felt like playing it again. Another dead game in my steam library.

  • Павел Солонков

    My guess it was Jack.

  • backwards7

    My parents coerced me into becoming a student of Viking history on the shaky notion that, if I failed to learn from it then I would be doomed to repeat it. My mother wasn’t keen on the idea of me venturing anywhere near a long ship.

    I can confirm the unerring accuracy of everything in the game from the dialogue (featuring sentences spoken by real Vikings from the actual past!) through to the combat that depicts Vikings in battle as they really fought, waiting until they were surrounded by their enemies before raising their weapons.

    To our contemporary sensibilities, which have been shaped by the staunchly socialist principles of western society, the division of experience in the game, with the lion share being directed towards the strongest party member, can be particularly jarring.

    The majority of us will be used to an experience point system where, at the end of a shift flipping burgers, our floor managers will gather us around and divide any points accrued more or less equally, perhaps singling out a particular individual for additional reward.

    This allows co-workers to level up together, which in turn enables managers to develop working environments that are challenging without being overpowering. None of that happened in Viking society which was, for the most part, a brutal free for all sound-tracked by the gentle strumming of the lyre.

  • Gene Parmesan

    XCOM!!!!

  • PPXXX

    I love this show. I wish it was a weekly thing. Maybe the Patreon’s success will increase the frequency of this show.

  • pete smith

    were you home schooled by history channel

  • Robert Fitl

    Oh, Oregon Trail. That brings back memories.

  • KonradZell

    “Show, don’t tell.” Exactly, Rich Evans. It still baffles me that some content creators still don’t understand this basic principle of story telling.

  • Dectilon

    Sounds like Fire Emblem.

  • dollar store cashier wife

    i lost how many times rich brought up Mass Effect 3 by now.He really should give it a plinkett review of his own.

  • dollar store cashier wife

    they already have one.it’s called care boars.

  • JohnBigbooty

    What a shame about the gameplay. The animation and art is beautiful.

  • Memoman

    What about the Darksiders saga! Joe Madureira, from Spawn (which I’m not defending as a story, because I don’t know it, though the art is beautiful), made some amazing art direction and design for it, and the universe it created feels lived-in and populated, and you feel their inhabitants strife. Some people say Darksider’s is a mashup of Zelda, God Of War, blah,blah,blah, I don’t care. I don’t play on consoles so the fact that game reunited and polished some of those mechanics, coupled with a unique and amazingly talented art style was very much über welcomed by me as it gave me a chance to experience them. Such a great and underrated game, specially Darksiders II which is particularly gorgeous, with great action, very cool design elements, story and loot. Oh and insanely cool character design

  • WrongWithYourFace

    FFXIII or FFXIII-2? That’s my favorite game title ever, movies should start doing this too.

  • Guest

    Wouldn’t the light just make him look paler? Besides, the light behind him gives him this appropriately holy glow.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    Enough with the -ishes! Can’t anything have a definitive, solid term?

  • thatsrightjay

    just play ff tactics on ps1 over and over

  • Memoman

    I also started playing The Banner Saga because the art style really captured me. And how much can you really fuck up turn-based combat, right? Completely as it turn out.

    Most of the gripes you express here, I felt too. Though I started fearing I had become too an internet generation ADD laden zombie, because: How could I not care about vikings and fantasy?! That’s my shtick! Turns out it wasn’t my fault, the game just doesn’t gel into an interesting experience. It’s just a lot of babble and twaddle with weak, uninspired, inconsequential skirmishes.

    This game is a GIMBO, a game bimbo.

  • Not Rick Berman

    I agree with a lot of what they said, though I was able to enjoy the story more than them. However I finished the game and hated the game more because of how it ended…

  • Jason Rainville

    Ah, disappointing. I loved this game. The turn based combat I found was much more enjoyable than the convoluted TBS games out there. The simple armor/health mechanic along with the way the turns work made for a very tense experience where every move mattered.

    I can agree a bit with the characters (not fully, they did have their own development) but the story and atmosphere I found was one of the best aspects of the game; it’s a desperate flight from the end of the world, passing doomed villages, deciding whether or not to risk your party members or villagers in dialogue choices. There were story moments that gave me chills, like learning that the enemy you think is there to devour your world… is running away from something worse. I thought the story was relatively easy to follow?

    A note on the dialogue choices not meaning anything; sometimes they don’t, other times you’ll lose important characters in the blink of an eye if you get greedy, or have supplies stolen, or gain items that you’d never be able to buy.

    The only thing I’ll disagree on outright (because hey, diff people life diff games :P) is the lore/story being hackneyed or tropey. The lore and setting of this game are pretty meticulously planned out to mirror Viking culture. The women are generally not permitted to don armor and fight, but are still badasses that lead their people and fight when needed (IE the training women in archery subplot). Anytime you hear people speak in another language, it’s Icelandic. People wear tunics and spectacle helms, not horn helmets and plate armor. I dunno, I reall loved learning about the history of the world throughout the game, and a vague sense of real-world legitimacy made it feel anything but hackneyed.

    I can DEFINITELY see this as not Jack’s kind of game if he wants “immersion” in everything though 😛

  • BeardtobeFeared

    Serious Sam HD

  • Stone

    Fair assessment in some ways. The Banner Saga definitely has that “made by programmers and graphics artists” feel. In that way I would compare it to Morrowind.

  • faraday

    Mmm. *bites lip*

  • Jason

    Fite me IRL, Jack (ง ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)ง

  • TekJansen

    Nice one! I really like the visual style, but the gameplay seems like a downer.

    I’d also be interested in your thoughts about TellTaleGame’s The Walking Dead and NaughtyDog’s The Last of Us. Remarkable games IMHO, but perhaps a bit too mainstream for this kind of web series… Keep up the good work, anyway! 🙂

  • Cacktowl

    AWESOME episode and ending again!

    I always wonder what daily jobs all these guys hold considering the places they live in and the time they put into RLM. One suggestion though is that you maybe try to interact with us more in the 1 on 1 sense, maybe host video game plays with people or something like that, anyways, great job RLM 😉

    I liked when Jack said that this game is not worth our time, when i personally rate the movies and games i play i always think about the time i lost, even before thinking about any money, as i could have been playing another game or done something else entirely. I can also agree about the text boxes that games like Knights of the old republic and mass effect use. They are pretty much the bread and butter for RPG games, specially for something like this which i assume doesn’t have significant production values, but every game should be trying to make it’s own cool version or think out side of the box and do something different.

  • Charon

    The Banner Saga reminds me of Baldur’s Gate, another early BioWare game with great art, meaningless conversation choices, and iffy combat.

    Shame on you, former development team of independent veteran developers!

  • Dragoș C. Costache

    Guys, might I suggest that as the Patreon money keeps a-flowing (and you don’t have to take side jobs or whatever) you make more of these and, more importantly dedicate more time to each episode? I’m not talking in terms of actual video length as much as prep and gaming time. I know you’ve got other stuff to do but the two games that you’ve chosen so far simply can’t really be done justice in the allocated time. Risk of Rain is a roguelike and you need a lot of time put in to really ‘get’ roguelikes and Banner Saga can’t be really evaluated in eight hours of playtime at anything but a superficial level.

    All the people that i’ve linked this video to have pretty much said the same thing.

    But, anyway, keep at it and sorry for the wall o’ text.

  • I think you guys were a bit too harsh on the game, especially with the “show don’t tell” complaint. Would you fault games like Planescape: Torment, King of Dragon Pass, or Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura for being wordy instead of showing you big goofy explosions and battles? Video games are not movies, do not complain about them like they are or else developers will think that all people want to play are big spectacle immersive shooters like Call of Skyrim. I already hate modern video games, I don’t want them to get worse.

  • “games”

  • Striker, Ted

    Do the care boars save Christmas? I must know…without watching.

  • Jack Example

    Damnit, Jack. Or-y-gun. Or-y-gun!

  • ImAFckingDragn

    That one commercial is too loud!

  • ImAFckingDragn

    Haha, fellow east coast people. I also used to mispronounce Oregon.

  • Noah Roalson

    I love these episodes, I would really enjoy it if these became a main staple of the RLM schedule.

  • Hieronymus Friedrich von Münch

    totally still my favorite game after soo many years, only ps1 disk i kept, and i don’t even have the ps1 anymore. :p

  • ouij

    So you want to be immersed in a world and learn about the interesting characters living in it…but you don’t want to read?

  • GraphicsAndBeer

    Empty bookshelf shot, reverse electrical box shot. Still loved it!!

  • Mike Panszczyk

    I’m enjoying the Pre-Recs. Love the shirt, Jack.

  • Bahareh Khosravi

    Aww man it’s such a slap in the face when your choices don’t matter in games; Now I wanna see Rich and Jack shit on David Cage and Beyond 2 asses next and how he shit the bed!

  • Eric

    Oh, the irony of Ex-Bioware employees making a game that promises story and decisions meaning something, then not following through on any of that

  • WrongWithYourFace

    They have a friggin’ popcorn machine.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    Well, you could always listen…

  • spidertour02

    If you want this game done better, play Jeanne d’Arc on PSP (or download the game on PS Vita). The combat is the same, but the story is much better.

  • Stephen Norman

    “Show, don’t tell” is a rule for all writing in all media. It means to vividly describe a scene as opposed to dryly stating the facts. It’s what they will teach you in a poetry class or a class about screenwriting or just a 101 English course in the section about writing anything at all. It doesn’t have to big, dumb action to follow the rule of showing instead of just telling. Showing, you would use lots of adjectives and lush sentence structure and dashes dialogue to describe a battle in an emotionally evocative way. Telling, you would say “A war is happening . . . your character dies from an axe wound . . . you are losing this battle by a factor of . . .” Bad. Boring. No emotional connection. In other words: he’s saying the writing in this game is bad.

  • jaymanxyz2

    Spoilers: she dies at the end.

  • instant relief

    Great episode, guys! <3

  • LelouchtheFilial

    “PLAY US OUT, CARE BOARS! No… no, STOP! STOP! AIIIIEEEEE!”

  • LelouchtheFilial

    I think he only brought it up three times.
    I could be wrong. I’ve been watching RLM for so long, that I forgot math.

  • FernoKlump

    Nah, he didn’t mention aliens even once

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    When’s the next episode of Pre-Rec you FU-

    Oh…

  • Jack Packard

    Jeanne d’Arc looks great, unfortunately it’s no longer available on the Vita store.

  • Enan Granbery

    do ‘don’t starve’ DOOOOOO IT! you fat fuck…………… do it, come on

  • Meester Smeeth

    I love you guys.

  • jaymanxyz2

    Awesome episode. I love Pre-Rec, keep at it, please.

  • Percy Gryce

    ___________
    Jack Pack attack
    .

  • Cy

    I recently had a dream about Rich Evans.

    He was stuck working on props, while the rest of RLM went and drank at a bar. I felt pretty bad for him, and started helping him with the props. We made little yellow school buses together.

    So yeah. Don’t know what else to say…

  • Percy Gryce

    Your avatar is as broke as MC Hammer.

  • Fuck Me I’m January

    I always thought your avatar was a fanmade picture of Rich Evans wearing a shiny motorcycle helmet until I just clicked on it and saw a bigger version…

  • Dan Hibiki

    actually, she dies in the middle.

    It’s pretty brutal and depressing.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    “He was stuck in a working on props”

    You accidentally a word, there.

    Also, you made school buses? Interesting…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxX6fRfl3lo

  • Cy

    I need to go in the a short yellow . buses

  • Did we play the same game? That’s not how it describes the wars at all. It does show, not tell through text but Rich used “show, don’t tell” in this instance to mean “give me a spectacle with flashy colors”.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    You mean MC Hammahhead? He’s a corege graduate.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    Was there something wrong with the face?

  • Dead Giveaway

    How much did they pay you to “review” their product and place this ad?

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    There’s just something about the A Camera/B Camera setup this time that feels a little… off. I can’t quite put my finger on it. Can anyone else see what I’m talking about?

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    For just a few hundred dollars a day, you too can sponsor a Rich Evans.

  • spidertour02

    It’s one of the ones that, because of some licensing shenanigans, can’t be directly downloaded to Vita. If you have a PS3, you can download it there and transfer it to your Vita using the Content Manager. It’s stupid and annoying, but it does work.

    Here’s the page for it on the PSN web store: https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/jeanne-d'arc/cid=UP9000-UCUS98700_00-JEANNEDARC000000

  • Cy

    I was waiting for Rich to get up and walk over to the window. And then at some point he could turn.

  • redletterjay

    If companies were willing to pay us to give negative reviews, we’d be millionaires by now!

  • junkevil

    their feelings about this game reflect my own feelings of tigtone.

  • Noah Roalson

    What makes you think this was a paid ad? It is far from that lol

  • Cy

    That’s right, Jay.

  • Noah Roalson

    Stop commenting ya damned overachiever!

  • Bill

    Does the hipster even like video games?

    Rich is wonderful, as always.

  • Cy

    I thought this was a no-judgment zone. 🙁

  • Guest

    Good reference 😉

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    underachiever*

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    You know you’ve said something really brilliant or really dumb when Jay takes his time to reply to you.

    You’re in the latter group.

  • Cy

    They were paid -25 dollars.

    (Cuz it’s like the price of the game and so they paid that since cuz if you doo the math it’s like numbers.)

  • LelouchtheFilial

    Mostly dumb, though.
    I think that, when a comment is brilliant, Jay just usually “likes” it and leaves it at that.

  • Cameron Vale

    Bioware’s post-Karpyshyn record is looking worse and worse.

  • bassbait

    Can we see some thoughts on a horror game? That’s the best opportunity for humor because horror games are basically never scary. I laughed my way through Amnesia for example.

  • bassbait

    I’ll pay you 5 dollars to give my comment a negative review. But since it’d be a negative review, it’d also be a negative 5 dollars.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    i liek thwords

  • bassbait

    Who’s Jay? I know them as the fat one, the other fat one, the third fat one, the gay one, Jack, and the girl one.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Classic case of fork in the brain.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    If anyone ever needs an example of nonmedy, look no further.

  • LelouchtheFilial

    I’d pay you good money to give a negative review of my mom’s bullshit “Potty Training” series.
    Seriously, it had an annoying kid who couldn’t act as the protagonist (it was the worst film debut I could have asked for), the lighting was terrible, and she would constantly set down the camera WHILE IT WAS STILL RUNNING and walk into frame! The fuck is this, a found footage movie?
    Frankly, this movie had no pacing, it didn’t feel like they had the foresight to hire an editor, and I was quite uncomfortable with the minor nudity, no matter how “tasteful” it was.
    These videos ruined any chance I had of becoming an actor. People called me Jake LLOYD for years!
    Even I’M not putting my potty training videos on my resume!

  • Noah Roalson

    I SAID STOP COMMENTING DAMMIT!

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Pro ta gon ist.

  • bassbait

    Prepare for a 1,000 page rebuttal

  • LelouchtheFilial

    CUT! Let’s try it again.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    I see you’re trying to get as famous by leeching on Taco’s comments.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    You’ve redeemed yourself. 😛

  • Manioc

    Glad I saw this- that art had my finger hovering above the “purchase” button on Steam. Sounds like the game has a lot of the mechanics (and problems) of Battle for Wesnoth- except of course Wesnoth is free.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Famous?

    Go take your brain medicine.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    Infamous. I stand corrected.

  • Jayless

    Rich Evans, Lord of the Zings.

  • Cy

    INT. HOUSE – DAY

    RICHEVANS and JACK sit at a CHABLE. Three conversation options float underneath JACK. Generic fantasy music plays softly.

    RICHEVANS
    What? What are you… why are there words…?

    JACK looks back silently. Then he briefly stares at the camera.

    RICHEVANS
    I don’t want to do this right now. I’m getting a beer.

    RICHEVANS gets up from the CHABLE, and walks towards the kitchen. He is blocked by a PIXELLATED-RIVER. Floating text asks if he would like to ford the river. RICHEVANS takes too long to decide, and dies of dysentery.

    END.

  • LelouchtheFilial

    To be frank, we all got famous by leeching off of Taco’s comment at one point.
    He has set an example of time-wasting for all of us.
    And one day… we shall join him away from the sun.

  • MarcusFrost

    This is only a spoiler if you’ve never cracked open a history book.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    WRONG!

    RICHEVANS uses LAUGHTER. The RIVER becomes BEER. He sips it sweetly and delicately like a deer at river edge.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Nah, I disagree.

    We all leech off of RLM to have our tiny voices heard.

  • bassbait

    sex

  • bassbait

    great job not even including my picture, stupid comment!!!!

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Both pictures are there.

  • Red Rowz

    The thing is, he doesn’t bring up anything else. He’s fixated on it!

  • Red Rowz

    The show is fine, but I’m not sure how the title is related to the content, as in, games. Also, everything is a pre-record.

  • Cy

    On an unrelated note, there are currently fire tornadoes in my city.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    What are you doing in the interwebz? Shouldn’t you be playing outside?

  • Cy

    Maybe in a little bit. Have an ashball fight, maybe build an ash man. Make some ash angels.

  • Cy

    And then he breaks an axle.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Perhaps he can craft a new one out of some old chables?

  • Noah Roalson

    Precisely 🙂

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Sayonara, or should I say Cyonara?

  • Cy

    Haaaa, classic Taco!

  • Striker, Ted

    RICKEVANS dies of exhaustion while learning about the birds and the beads.

  • dollar store cashier wife

    I’m gonna make a wild guess and say he likes Team Fortress 2.

  • Redblaze27

    Cant wait for the next episode.

  • chabubaes

    If you haven’t yet, go play Aces Wild : Manic Brawling Action right now. It’s best with another player. And make a video of it you schmucks!

  • Joe Syxpac

    I was hoping you guys would wait for an airplane for each intro.

  • Worm

    Thanks for saving me from buying this in the most recent Humble Bundle.

  • tweakerbelle

    computer games are a boring waste of time. reviews of computer games are a dumb waste of time. reviews of boring computer games is a level of fuckwittery I cannot condone. Please, don’t do this again. Review youtube cat videos before this kind of bilge.

  • Wasperheimer

    Goddamnit Jack, stop giving praises to Rich Evans. That’s our job.

  • Guest

  • Cy

    I agree 110% about time-wasting.

    Sometimes, time’s heroes need to take the time to timely post internet comments, just in time to save time for other people who like time. Like this one day, I went to the time. I was looking for time, but the time behind the time told me they were out of time. And so I went back to my time and took my time for a time, while wondering what time it was.

    And do you know what time it was?

  • Jones

    GO TIME?

  • Cy

    Time to make like a tree and fuck off!

    Or go time, whichever.

  • Rodney

    I’d love to see a Previously Recorded live stream.

  • https://www.humblebundle.com/ where you can get the game for 1 dollar!!!!!!!!!

  • If you ain’t working on a cure for cancer, you’re wasting your time, buddy. I mean really, do you think any of the things you do any given day will be remembered? Accept your own insignificance and turn to hedonism.

  • humdiblifier

    Shining Force meets Oregon Trail? Meh!

    Since hating on Mass Effect is more fun, I’ll do that! Is it possible that I’m the only person who thought that the Mass Effect story was a rip-off of Babylon 5? A space station that is our last best hope for peace, an ancient threat looming over all races, a resistance effort led by Jon Sherid…. I mean Shepard. Am I the only one who noticed, or just the only person who ever saw Babylon 5?

    GET THE HELL OUT OF MY GALAXY!!!

  • you get the artwork for $1, the actual game costs $15….

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    A beautiful mistake.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    RICKEVANS gets eaten by a werdwolf.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa
  • sepiajack

    Yeah my cubicle is directly across from the VPs office, so unfortunately not an option

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    They’re Jewish, so no.

  • Captain Turbo

    Hmph. I had hoped that the Banner Saga was in some way adapted from Fun With Flags.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa
  • Paulus Cañamonjas

    Best woshes in your morphological quest

  • Captain Turbo

    Is this post a troll? Or is it a pun? A palindrome?

  • Percy Gryce

    Uggh.

  • dollar store cashier wife

    more like 15$.

  • Jack Packard
  • Percy Gryce

    Here’s how I look at it. Jack and Richevans play video games so I don’t have to. (I even send them money to do that.)

  • Percy Gryce

    I see they moved the game-play segments from Jack’s house to RLM’s chamber of viewing. Was Jack unhappy with some of us scrutinizing his bookshelves–hence the empty bookcase in this ep?

  • KonradZell

    If Rich Evans was invested in the ME series as many of us were, I could understand him still being stung by ME 3. Fuck you Casey “Rick Berman” Hudson, you hack fraud!

  • Cy

    Hey, you remember when you guys reviewed The Amazing Bulk, and you did that amazing ending making fun of it? I laughed myself silly. And then I spammed replay. It was amazing.

    You should do something like that with these game reviews. It’ll balance out the review parts. It’ll be amazing.

  • Percy Gryce

    Cy, fix your busted avatar before my OCD makes me hurt Taco.

  • Percy Gryce

    “We played for eight hours.”

    Oh, my, gawd!

  • Percy Gryce

    To me it always looks like a Crip wearing a bandana, sporting his gang colors.

  • Cy

    You can’t see it? That’s weird. Try hitting refresh, it worked for Taco.

  • Noah Roalson

    You disagree?

  • Percy Gryce

    Love Jack and Richevans, but vidya games are not high on my list of staples.

  • Percy Gryce

    Still busted. Am I the only one seeing this? Am I going insane?

  • Cy

    Really? I JUST re-uploaded it, just to be sure.

  • Jack Packard

    Clearly not insane.

  • Now I Get It

    He’s gaslighting you, Percums. Don’t tell me you’re getting too old for this shit.

  • Cy

    Hey, thanks for making more videos, regardless of what kinda crap people might give in the comments section.

    I’m sure they’re a lot of work, and I always enjoy seeing new content.

  • Percy Gryce

    Ahh, Jack’s got some of the OCD too. We could tell from his comments on the editing of the some of the fine films that are featured on BOTW.

  • Percy Gryce

    My NIGI, I am definitely too old for video games and rollercoasters and combat duty.

  • Percy Gryce

    What do the kids say these days–phale?

  • Cy

    Hmm. I can’t believe that my profile pic of a broken image link isn’t showing up for you. Maybe try deleting your cookies or something.

  • fskn

    I wanna see more games from these artists. Not from these game designers.
    By the way, is there an art book of the Banner Saga? Help me Google. You’re my only hope.

  • Percy Gryce

    Well, when you put it that way–you’ve clearly outfoxed us all.

  • Percy Gryce

    I always hear James Earl Jones’s voice when I read your comments.

  • Percy Gryce

    An anagram, an acrostic, or a cypher?

  • Cy

    Hey, I’m compiling code right now, what else do you want me to do?

  • Percy Gryce

    Who says it’s impossible to spot sarcasm on the Internets?

  • Percy Gryce

    You’re definitely a dude. Maybe even a dude bro.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    I’ve never even played ME 3 and I hate the game.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Well Mr. Gryce, since I don’t play vidya games either, wanna talk about ’98 Godzilla? Just watched it half an hour ago and want to punch a wall for willingly seeing it.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Oh. I thought his avatar was intentionally broken.

  • Percy Gryce

    Felix Culpa.

    That was my college roommate, Felix Culpa.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    If you were in Miami you’d see the connection.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    That wuz stoopid wut they did with the vikeengs.

  • Percy Gryce

    Ah, so, I see. Only through the elimination of my bad vision can we achieve world peace.

  • Bhazor

    I wouldn’t call it a rip off of Babylon 5. I’d call it a rip off of everything to do with popular sci fi instead.

    Its the most generic homogenized sci fi goop I’ve seen in a long time without an ounce of style or pizzaz to its name. It’s attempts to have bad ass or emotional, or cerebral writing is far funnier than its attempts at humour. Sadly, Bioware is pretty much the only name in big budget RPGs right now so you’ve got no choice but to suck it up. In an ideal world we’d be waiting for Anachronox 5 right now. A game with so much charm and personality and heart that it naturally sunk without trace.

  • jaymanxyz2

    Oh….

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    But only if we go to University of Central Florida, which isn’t even in Miami. I heard they have a great Opthamawhowajist degree program there.

  • Coregoth88

    SO good! This should be the winning format for RED LETTER MEDIA game review shows! Thanks guys!

  • AceRay

    XIII preferably, then they can start the crappy story from the beginning. Don’t forget that X-2 did that title first.

  • backsettio

    RLM should start selling Rich Evans blow up dolls.

  • William

    On what basis are you guys choosing these games? No idea how you could get through 8 hours of that crap.

  • jaymanxyz2

    I remember seeing The Banner Saga for sale on Steam not too long ago, a little before the first episode of Pre-Rec (but didn’t they pay full price?). Right now, I would guess that they’re just trying out some random games so that they can get a feel for the show before they branch out to other more popular or interesting games. I could be wrong, though.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Why isn’t there any Nukie on that book shelf?

  • Karl Marinier

    Anachronox is great and on GOG!

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Let’s call him Sly Cy.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Hey there Guest, let me help you out with that there GIF.

    http://i.minus.com/il9Yyo1E8Sj4w.gif

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    I’d buy that for a dollar.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Honestly, thanks.

    I was trying to remember that quote [i.e. Richism] about ‘beads’ and knowing it had something sexual behind it, but I just couldn’t recall what exactly he said.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Gillllberrrrrt.

  • Poopfeast420

    these are great

  • Poopfeast420

    Steam sales i guess

  • Jack Packard

    Whatever we felt like playing and what we had access to. Next episode we get to borrow an XBone.

  • William

    Wow, I was kinda just asking rhetorically since I thought the only RLM guy who posted in the comments was Len ;p

    I guess I just find these ‘reviews’ less interesting when they are about a game I knew to avoid based on the trailer.

    Thanks for the videos, love everything you guys put out. Glad to see the RLM family grow.

  • splimis

    Please keep making these. Thank you.

  • Noah Roalson

    Jay does once in a while.

  • Alex Fleming

    I really like this game. That’s an acceptable difference of opinion, though I think when you’re just giving a first impression and not a proper review spending the last couple minutes ranting about how bad it is cuz you didn’t like it is a tad showy. you just reinforced your opinion for a while without adding anything further.

  • strawberryman

    This is great stuff. I like the Rich & Jack combo. I dunno what it is but they just have great chemistry like Jay & Mike on Half in the Bag.

  • Rick Rickerson

    Don’t give a shit about the games.
    Do give a shit that Rich and Jack are entertaining as hell.
    Keep it up, guys, good stuff.

  • Kenshiroh
  • Percy Gryce

    He might have been going for a still pic there. Not all of us are so impressed with this newfangled technology featuring moving pictures.

    Or did you just want to spread Richevans’s self-love around some more?

  • Percy Gryce

    Hey, Great Lent is over. Why are you still practicing such strict penance and self-mortification?

  • Percy Gryce

    The Banner Saga? I thought this was going to be about that guy who turns into the Amazing Bulk–you know, Eric Bana.

  • Percy Gryce

    Hey, your patreons just broke 5K/month. Can’t they buy you that particular bone?

  • HeliopanND09

    The way he pronounced Oregon, did make me chuckle. Also, I noticed the camera on Jack was a bit soft. But, this is a fun series.

  • Sean Gall

    JACK!!!!!
    Keep doing this stuff, mixing RLM’s genius knack for comedy with video games is all I could hope for.

  • Sean Gall

    Percy, who would want to do that?

  • Noah Roalson

    *Insert witty comment here*

  • Sean

    I find it ironic that this video was released while Humblebundle is doing a daily sale (May 15th 2014) for the Banner saga; Asking price 15$. I can’t…. stop…. laughing

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    You know, I’m not sure exactly why, but this episode felt better.

    It seems they improved the dynamic of the conversation along with the cutting back to the game play/them playing the game. The added text was funny but sometimes felt a bit overdone. The A Camera/B Camera didn’t feel as odd this time [not sure why, but could be because of the next point]. It felt like you two were having a conversation that flowed along, which could be a combination of good editing and perhaps better pre-planning. The previously recorded episode seemed to start and stop a bit in the conversation and you’ve improved that, so I found this one more entertaining and more pleasing/easier to view. Keep it up! 🙂

    Oh, also, the intro and outro are perfect. 😛

  • Percy Gryce

    I was thinking to myself, “What would Taco say?” And that last bit just came right out.

  • Percy Gryce

    I don’t know. I don’t know nothing about vidya games. I bought my kids a Wee and I’ve played a game or two of Tetris, but that’s it.

  • Keith Ballard

    Weird. I was taking my sweet time with this game and I hit the war mechanic about three hours in. I wonder if they died a lot, or perhaps talking among themselves makes them progress much slower than normal. It kind of makes sense that the story in a RPG might not be far along when they’re only in chapter two or three of what I think is a seven chapter game.

  • Shane Von Russell

    You should try Zork.

  • Shane Von Russell

    HOW DID WE GET SURROUNDED?!?!?!?

  • I don’t understand how a company can fuck up a genre that was perfected on the Super Nintendo with games like Tactics Ogre and Fire Emblem. Hell, even the Genesis had games like Shining Force.

  • autonomousgerm

    Shouldn’t it have been “Bored of the Rings?”

  • WrongWithYourFace

    I heard Princess Leia. You know, the last sentence? Get it?

  • WrongWithYourFace

    Is that Leonardo DiCaprio or Natalie Portman?

  • WrongWithYourFace

    They should make it an actual part of each video.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Because I wanted to be well-read for RLM’s next sermon. If they don’t include 98 Godzilla in their next sermon, then it’s another 80 lashes for misunderstanding the Evans’ work.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Natalie Portman is incapable of squinting that way.

  • Grimreapo

    Being someone who placed a few pounds on the Kickstarter I can pretty much agree with this even though the “branching” paths were a bit lackluster in the end but there is a gameplay problem that they bought up which I really dont agree with.

    The weaker human characters are VERY powerful if you know how to use them, for example they bought up an archer as example and they seem to be useless but they have one of the most insane passives in the game. They have access to ‘Puncture’ which adds in additional damage to every 2 point of armour lost, this means that towards end of the battle or if you been focusing fire on a big guy who has massive armour (AKA anything slightly smaller than Bellower) they are able to ONE SHOT them if you do the shot without moving. Seeing how Rook (beard dude with bow) is able ranged and melee character, if you put most of his stats points into armour breaking and give him items that will aid his armour damage then that allows Alette (ginger girl) to pull of some insane damage as long as she does not move too much…

    Granted they should have shown that in a gameplay tutorial but if you read around the level up screens and see the what the abilities do then the games gets a bunch more fun…

  • fskn

    Actually that was Darth Vader’s impression of *SPOILER ALERT!!1* his daughter. Sounded kinda weird.

  • Chris

    Too bad the genre doesn’t have anything to do with how bad the game is. The story and logic behind the events of the game won’t get fixed no matter what genre you switch to.
    I also wouldn’t say that this was made by a company, it’s just some indie developers who went on kickstarter with it (even if they are ex-bioware), you can’t compare it to any big company product.

    Like the review pointed out (and I completely agree with paying for the artbook instead of the actual game), the visual style of the game is definitely the main selling point. I’m a concept artist myself and a lot of those indie games that land on kickstarter mainly lure in people with a trailer full of pretty graphics and animations.

  • jic1

    Since I’m too lazy to read all the previous comments, at what point does somebody say something like ‘of course you didn’t like it if you only played the first eight hours, it takes at least twelve hours for the story to get going’?

  • catnep

    Wraaath. I’d prefer 8 hours of Boggle.

  • catnep

    Rich drinking bottled water felt off to me.

  • humdiblifier

    I very much agree. I miss the games I could get lost in for days on end. All i see anymore are incomprehensible JRPGs and stale humorless drek. What makes it even worse is that we keep seeing more of it because they keep getting heaped with endless praise.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Lamé sauce.

  • dollar store cashier wife

    They should make this show with a CGI background.They already have shot reverse shot conversations on a couch so 50% work is already done.

  • Brian Levine

    I would love to see these guys take on the original Dungeonmaster or Might and Magic 4 & 5 (Xeen Saga).

  • TheJackFromTitanic

    There’s a bone in my pants

  • Rotten Red Rod

    I Kickstarted this game and was incredibly excited for it – but when it came out, I couldn’t get more than 2 hours in. I always felt guilty because I assumed I just hadn’t gotten to the good part of the game. I don’t feel guilty anymore – thanks!

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    You mean I can film the background without going to the actual background?

  • Tyler Y

    As someone who has over 70 hours into Banner Saga, I can freely admit that the story is a clusterfuck and the game does a crap job of telling you about the mechanics. Once, however, you find out what the mechanics are and what they do, the game is pretty great (after skipping through the dialogue, or course). Taking out four dudes at once with a level 5 Warhawk is a feeling I haven’t quite matched with any other game the last few years.

  • dollar store cashier wife

    amazing isn’t it

  • dollar store cashier wife

    Dolls as a patreon bonus.

  • Bahareh Khosravi

    Hells nah bro, I’m totally a broad! Check out ma sick wombspace! Sorry, didn’t mean to go off on ya, must be that time o the month. Yoghurt, shoes, chocolate, cleaning products, etc.

  • Alex Lee

    “We decided to try out different dialog trees . . . and we ended up with the same result.”

    That’s actually Mass Effect 1.

    As for hackneyed writing, it really sounds like they should have got a professional writer to write the scenarios first before making the game itself. When a team brings a writer later in, after all the dungeons and basic plot points are set, the writer is limited in how to get those characters react to that world.

  • Alex Lee

    As for strong characters getting stronger and weak characters remaining weak, that’s a typical Fire Emblem-type mechanic, where you’re given one strong unit at the start (The Jagen/Jigen, whatever) and a whole bunch of weaker ones. The design is sort of a trap, and the only way out of it is to feed the weaker characters kills at the start so that you’ll have a balanced party later on. The use of the Jagen is to lure the enemy out and ideally soften the enemy before you let the weaker characters deliver the coup de grace.

  • Alex Lee

    I want to see them explain Resident Evil 6.

    Rich: At some point, I forgot this was a video game and thought I was watching the Paul W.S. Anderson movies.
    Jack: It’s definitely as stupid.

  • Jason Dubin

    “The Todd McFarlane of video games”,… Wow!

  • Alex Lee

    The world needs more negative reviews. They tend to be specific and teach other people how not to make mistakes. Positive reviews always seems to come across as circle jerks. Some movies really do deserve it, but they tend to lack detail.

    This is largely my problem with classic literature. Too much of saying that it’s flawless and less time examining why an audience is or is not intrigued with it.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    I know this isn’t exactly relevant to video games, but seeing as how nearly everyone commenting on RLM are movie fans [pretty much all their content revolves around film] and since this trailer gave me constant goosebumps and made me tear up [I know, I know, I just love space, though], has anyone here seen the newest trailer for Interstellar yet?

    What did you think? I need to know what other people who enjoy film and RLM think about this trailer/film. Dealing with space travel in a rather realistic, human setting is something that excites me beyond imagination and I’m really glad that Christopher Nolan is tackling it and it’s also one of the few big budget original films coming out this year.

    http://youtu.be/zgbDoTNpCR4

  • Cy

    That’s totally the music from V For Vendetta. Right? Right. (I’m right, right?)

  • dollar store cashier wife

    christopher nolan? pff what an overrated hack.I could make a better film!

  • skeeter_dan

    Disappointed you guys didn’t enjoy this game. It’s got some pretty hefty flaws, I’ll admit, but I really enjoyed the combat mechanics and I did connect to the characters. I kickstarted the game, so I was already invested in it, which may have helped, but I thought it was really good and I’m looking forward to part two.

  • Matthew Banes

    Number of times said “Oregon”: 4
    Number of times said “Oregon” correctly: 0.
    *note, I’m not 100% positive about the first one*

  • Alex Lee

    I am interested…unless it involves our pro-ta-gon-ist punching people in the face like Jor-El.

  • Striker, Ted

    That’s because you were trying to remember with the brain of a mere mortal, not a Godlike portly zing king.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    You, sir, are correct right! I felt like I had hear that before, but it’s been many years.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjgTFd6XAg8

  • WrongWithYourFace

    Is that like the grown up version of Wall-E?

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    WALL-E is the grown up version of WALL-E for kids.

    It’s confusing. Try not to think too hard about i-FORK IN THE BRAIN

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Each one of those punches was in the script. They each got their own line. It’s how they padded out the script into a 2h23m film. That might explain why the rest of the elements felt underdeveloped.

    Edit: The Iron Giant is the best Superman film we’ve had in 30 years.

  • Cy

    I certainly want to like it. I’m concerned about it being too boring, like Solaris.

    I’m also concerned about the amateur vibe of the writing. Naming a character “Murphy” and talking about the significance of that in-movie…? Hmm. That’s a red flag for me, writing-wise.

    However I have seen that particular thing done well. In the 3rd book of the Xanth fantasy series, one of the magicians is named Murphy (and you can guess what his power is). The plot heavily revolves around his power, but the story doesn’t get bogged down in what “it all means” or lame crap like that. It is simply sets the stage for the characters to interact. And it’s a damn good story (at least, I thought so when I read it as a kid).

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Let’s hope the lines aren’t as clunky as they were in Gravity. Like Rich Evans said so well, “Show, don’t tell.” I felt Sandra Botox’s character talked a lot, especially more toward the end. She doesn’t need to explain how she’s feeling or that she’s finally changed her attitude about life, we can see that through her actions and expressions.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    That’s a difficult thing to digest for my mind, but I think it’s finally zingking in.

    *Crickets.* I’ll see myself out…

  • Cy

    Well, I didn’t see Gravity so I’ll take your word for it.

    In principle, I don’t mind characters verbalizing what they’re thinking. It can really help in some instances. But it can be overdone, like anything.

    And it can be jarring. If it absolutely needs to be done in a jarring way, the writers should lampshade it.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    Really, though, I didn’t exactly answer your question. It looks somewhat interesting but I’m not yet convinced. The trailer didn’t have anything too memorable for me. I guess it’s because the fork in my brain is taking up so much room.

  • Percy Gryce

    Now I’m confused.

  • Cy

    So should I see it or not? It looked like another bad superhero movie. So I stayed away.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    I’m intrigued, but cautious because it seems too simple to be worth watching. I’m not sure if Nolan is an atmospheric director. He has grand ideas, wonderful ideas, and those ideas make up for things he’s never bothered to explore in other films, such as how a world effectively works around that idea. But this? It seems less idea and more atmosphere development. Why would we no longer need engineers if we’ve run out of food? Why are people watching a baseball game if everyone is desperately starving? Is Murphy’s Law his new totem? It feels like a trailer that’s deceptively obscure because it’s hiding behind a really simple plot.

    Now The Rover? That looks like a fascinating movie, even with Sparkles “Man Baby” Vampire in it. It’s a very realistic post-apocalyptic piece, makes no bones about it, and still manages to give humanity to a group of characters without giving anything plot-wise away.

  • Cy

    When I was little, I had a Spawn Issue #1, unopened. I didn’t open it because my brother told me it would be worth a lot some day.

    I later came to my senses: opened it, read it, got rid of it.

  • Cy

    That’s true. But often enough, the best decision is to just dump most of the weak characters in favor of new, stronger party members. And only level up a couple long-range/magician units.

  • JacobHunnter

    I like the look of this, although I can’t hear Michael Caine’s voice without doing impressions of him for a week.
    “I swore to pro-tect you, Mr. Wayne”

  • WrongWithYourFace

    “I swore to rem–“

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    I can’t find the exact time, but at one point Mike says something and Jay replies, “Everybody could have just watched that.”

    Their review of the film is more entertaining than the film. Reading the abridged script of it is probably better, too. Or perhaps reading the plot on Wikipedia. Haha.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4u-HLm8maE

    http://www.the-editing-room.com/man-of-steel.html

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    His name is My Cocaine.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Never heard of The Rover before.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Guys, my boner has lasted over 2 hour now. What do I do?!

  • Cy

    Put it somewhere, make goo.

  • A203

    kinda looks like the prequel to after earth… shyamalan would love this.. and at the same time be envious

  • Cy

    Meh. It looks to me like Man of Steel is a Transformers movie, but with Superman.

    Dumb fans will react like “did you see that when he was all PSSSHHHHH and then the building was like CRASSSHHH!”

    Smarter fans will make up delusional excuses as to why it’s really pretty good because “it’s a lot darker, and it explores more of the history of the character, and such as.”

    I’ll still be here, like “meh.”

  • A203

    prob the only person ive ever seen that can actually explain what comedy is.. if this is actually jack.. ya did well there… RE (botw, island vaction, elves)

  • Bhazor

    Yeah it’s the amount of praise that annoys me about Mass Effect. I’d probably like the game far more if it wasn’t for everyone declaring it the best game series ever made. I mean geeze no one even complains about the blatant repetition in ME 1 where every side mission takes place in either the *exact same* building or space ship. I mean how do you get away with that?

  • Bhazor

    Well Anachronox 0.5 is on GOG. The game was literally only half finished when released because Romero is an asshat who blew his company’s budget on a giant high rise office where the glare from all the glass was so bad they couldn’t even see what they were typing and had to work at night. This is why the game has such an abrupt end. It’s the exact moment the money ran out. http://www.salon.com/2002/01/02/ion_storm/

    I’d trade the whole Mass Effect series in for the remaining half of Anachronox in a heart beat.

  • My ex wife

    it’s “make like a tree and get out of here” you sound like a dam fool when you say it wrong.

  • My ex wife

    Dammit, Percy, why you gotta get so smart on us?

    It was also the name of a horse i used to own.

  • My ex wife

    Nondescript water too. So many product placement opportunities missed.

  • My ex wife

    Who ever she is, I’d like to buy her a drink.

    And by drink i mean sex.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa
  • My ex wife

    Or-y-gun-o

  • My ex wife

    Yeah, I’m not a fan of Family guy either.

  • The Summer of George

    Those two should just screw and get it over with.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    You’re a chick on the internet if you use emoticons. Lots and lots of emoticons 😀 😀 😀 😀

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    The working title for Interstellar was ‘Before Earth’.

  • A203

    i just hope nolan loses his tendency to be pretentious because i dont think he realizes pretentiousness does not equal good movie going experience for the audience.

  • Vinny’s TweetMachine

    I love this show and it’s almost perfect, but to make it even better include 1) alcohol and 2) dark humor. Come one guys, you could totally make the Half in the Bag of videogames!

  • Captain Turbo

    Who’s this Taco person? I think you’re imagining him.

  • Rene Belloq 12 inch figure

    Are you guys trying to make the dorkiest show ever?

  • FernoKlump

    I’d blow that doll

  • LelouchtheFilial

    Don’t “get it over with.” Make it last.

  • Alex Lee

    lol, unlike Seth McFarlane these days, Todd McFarlane applies himself at least.

  • Will Robinson

    If you’re interested in this kind of graphics, it’s obviously influenced by Ivan Bilibin’s art.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=Ivan+Bilibin&tbm=isch

  • Thanatos2k

    Rich earns infinite respect for defending the quality of RPGs. Jack seems to hate RPGs in general.

    There’s tons of things that change based on the dialogue choices. Thing is, many of them happen long after your choice and don’t seem to be directly caused by them.

    For example, the reason your guys started in the middle of the screen on the battle after you selected “Charge” is *because* you chose to charge. Different choices change the formation you start the battles at.

    Though yeah, a ton of it is meaningless, like the number of people you have in your caravan does absolutely nothing. Let them starve.

  • Thanatos2k

    FF10-2 already existed though. And now there’s FF13-3.

  • Thanatos2k

    There is a place for dialogue in video games. Those video games are called RPGs.

  • Thanatos2k

    A Fake Plinkett review would work.

  • Thanatos2k

    That only works in descriptive writing. People don’t do that when talking to each other, so dialogue won’t do that.

    The “show don’t tell” is used as criticism in movies when someone talks about something instead of showing it. In video games, especially RPGs, there is a LOT of dialogue which won’t sound realistic in the slightest bit using lots of adjectives and lush sentence structure, so the statement “show don’t tell” loses all meaning in these circumstances.

  • Thanatos2k

    This was an indie game. The whole game is not going to be voice acted.

  • Thanatos2k

    They did follow through with it though. While many things admittedly don’t, plenty of things change depending on your choices, Rich and Jack don’t sound like they saw their choices through to completion.

  • Thanatos2k

    The combat isn’t anywhere close to being the same. Jeanne D’Arc is more FFT than Banner Saga. And if you have a PSP, you can get FFT anyways.

    Jeanne D’Arc is a good game too though.

  • Thanatos2k

    They’re at a table though, not a couch.

    Oh wait then it shows them on a couch, nevermind.

  • Alex Lee

    I think they would have got the Charge->Surrounded if it was shown on a map. I think the army battles should only be a larger version of the typical party-based battles similar to Dynasty Tactics/Advance Wars, etc, where the pieces on the board represent armies instead of characters, and HP refers to Troop Strength.

    Keep in mind this idea is the laziest way of creating a war minigame, and an RTS minigame would help create a difference in kind, which is ideal. I’m just saying that if they had to settle for a differences of scale, it’s best to use existing mechanics to show it, rather than using text, which really tells you nothing about the situation. That is what is irritating about text-based war; not nearly enough information to make assessments.

  • Thanatos2k

    I’d say it was original enough. You could always find some sci-fi it would be a rip off of.

    Shame what they did with it….

  • Thanatos2k

    It’s not like that here. The people who are strong don’t get weaker over time.

    All you have to do is ration out the killing blows which isn’t hard to do at all since most of the time you want to cripple enemies by lowering their strength to very small numbers instead of killing them, because they can’t do any damage to you but still take up a slot in the turn order (which was an innovative feature they didn’t talk about here). It’s actually a bad idea to just have your strong people cleaving down everyone as fast as you can and you pick up on that quickly.

    Thus it’s easy to clean up the weak enemies with whoever you want to get the kills for.

    The real issue is that many characters leave after certain points in the game, and some return. Knowing who comes back is a huge advantage since you just level them.

  • Thanatos2k

    The whole war thing was utterly meaningless, yes. They really should have just dropped it entirely and described how your people won after you win the individual battle.

  • KonradZell

    “exasperated sigh, pulls up chair, sits down” When people say “show, don’t tell” in reference to good story telling in visual media, they don’t literally mean not to use dialogue. It means avoid expository dialogue. A character feels a certain way? SHOW it. Want a great example? You need look no further than this very webzone for Mike’s breakdown of the Star Wars prequels. The audience is TOLD that Obi Wan and Anakin are good and close friends, but you see little evidence of that. Rather, Anakin acts like a douche a lot and Obi Wan seems annoyed with much of the film. You mentions RPGs? Ok. How do Crono’s friends demonstrate their love of him? By little text boxes saying as much on the bottom of the screen? No, they travel across freaking time and space to save him from Lavos. How does Mordin Solus demonstrate his regret of the genophage? By telling Shep he regrets it? No he gives his life to save the Krogan (depending on your Shep’s choice, of course).

  • Andreas Mavromatis

    Man you guys nailed it. I was shitting on this game months ago when it came out. Check out my review at http://www.dronami.com/blog/bannersaga.php.

    By the way, the only thing morale affects is your starting willpower.

  • CantiPrime

    It’s been out for awhile, but I think a Hotline Miami review would be glorious.

  • catnep

    You’re right. No label! The plot thickens. Maybe it was vodka.

  • Sorry Guys, But you are way off with this game. There is a story, there are main characters and there are consequences to a number of the decisions you can make.

    And Jack, dont shit on a game just because you hate reading.

  • Joel

    Just keep doing these. They are great. I think you should eventually expand on to all forms of media but videogames are a nice segway. You guys are learned enough now to know how to commentate of different mediums while still keeping your format intact. Gamestation 2.0 was a fail, this is a step on the right path. A big step. Videogames can expand your brand 3xfold, just know where to set your focus. You guys are some of the hardest working people I’ve come across and I wish you all the very best.

  • NegPrimer

    Wish I had watched this before buying it in the Humble Bundle for $15. I’ve played an hour so far, and NOTHING has happened. 2 tutorials about the combat system, and a lot of dry exposition.

  • Alex

    ‘The Begun of Tigtone’ is online since one week and you hack frauds still haven’t put it on your site. Too emberassed to act in a fantasy movie, eh?…..
    Well, here it is, thank me later.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-J3nJerAyQ

  • Alex Lee

    While I don’t necessarily agree on using permadeath because only Fire Emblem does that (and FE:A made it optional),the reasoning still made sense. An alternate solution would be a ranking system, and each unit loss is a significant penalty (maybe by a whole letter grade). The ranking system would tie into tiered rewards, which creates the incentive.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    One Pork to bind them.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    That was already posted in the comments. Likely more or less a week ago.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    I also just read somewhere that there’s such an atrocity as FFX/X-2. I’m not sure if that’s like FFX2.5. but more confusingly named or if it has both FFX and FFX-2.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    Hell, if I was making an indie game, I’d even voice all the characters myself if I couldn’t afford voice actors.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Too much Vodka made you see what you saw.

  • Now I Get It

    The pixelating properties of fermented potato.

  • Chris C

    I don’t want you to turn into some gay youtubers who record themselves while screaming like little girls, but play/review some horror games.

  • Alex Lee

    I’m sure they’ve seen enough horror movies to not react that way anymore.

  • Alex Lee

    “Make sure to get a big green screen though!”

  • Chris C

    Well, yeah, I want them to trash some crappy horror games cause youtube people just piss their panties from shit like Slenderman or whatever.
    I mean, Rich Evans was punched by Len Kabasinski, horror means nothing to him.

  • Alex

    I should’ve known. RLM commenters are always way ahead of me.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    In Milwaukee you need a licence to do carpentry work.

    Oh, you meant the other kind of screw.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    What’s old-man Weyland doing out of his old-man Weyland makeup?

    Wait, did he find the answer to eternal life by becoming a vampire? Dammit, Cedric Edward!

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    I’m confused. Who said anything about a couch?

  • Alex Lee

    Yeah, them talking about Resident Evil 6 would be hysterical. It’s not indie, but the amount of panning they’d do would be Half in the Bag levels.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    You gotta admit Pearce has nicer hair in this movie than Prometheus. I’m pretty sure it’s even his own hair!

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Can a list be made of games we’d really want them to review? I know it’s not a democracy, but if people felt really strongly about a certain genre, or a level of popularity, it’d be nice for them to know instead of throwing games at us blindly.

  • catnep
  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Try a spork instead next time. Thinner, less pointy. Carves out less space… at least the Ikea model does.

  • Inkall

    “I would pay $25 for a book of the art” is exactly how I felt.

    I was going to back this game on kickstarter simply to get the artbook (for a lot more than $25) but in the end I decided against it.

    If they had made a comic book/graphic novel or whatever (things which also get a lot of support on kickstarter if the art is good) I’m sure it would have been just as, perhaps more successful. Though even that would come down to writing in the end.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    The Ikea model is going to break if you try stick it in your brain. Do you know what spork shrapnel in the brain feels like?

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Well, with a spork, it’s easier to scoop out the matter you no longer need.

    *Scoop the pain away.*

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Fake Plinkett and real Plinkett should duke it over how ME3 should have ended.

    Plinkett vs. Mechaplinkett.

  • Alex Lee

    Oooh, thinking of video games reminded me of movies based off of video games! The Bloodrayne movie should be in BoTW, but I don’t have a copy because I was smart enough not to get it..

  • catnep

    My first impression was Matthew McConaughey does Contact without Jodie Foster. The acting in the trailer seemed a bit cloying. I’m not sure I could sit through much of that. The space scenes look decent though.

  • catnep

    Ice, lots of ice.

  • Andreas Mavromatis

    I wouldn’t be complaining if permadeath was an option. It’s fine if it’s configurable; people who are terrible at games need to start somewhere. But not even allowing the option just shits on anybody that cares about actual Tactics games. Banner Saga is good only for stroking your own ego.

  • Kelsie

    More Eastern US people pronounce it Ore-Gone. More Western US people (like me) pronounce it Ore-Ginn. I wouldn’t say either one is necessarily right or wrong, it’s just an accent thing.

  • Kelsie

    Don’t you mean “Bored of the Rings?” 😉

  • Baramos x

    It’s just a rebundling of FFX and FFX-2 in HD form.

  • Baramos x

    That reminds me, I need to finally beat XCOM. I think I’m into the final stretch, but i’ve been playing it off and on for two years and meanwhile everyone else has beaten it like five times.

  • Baramos x

    He even brought it up in the Spider-Man review, and I had to hurriedly throw my headphones off as I haven’t played it yet and didn’t want the ending (bad or not) spoiled.

    I guess I’ll just have to finally give in and buy the trilogy bundle…

  • Captain Turbo

    Ugh, I hate grammatical errors. The title should be ‘The Beganninging of Tigtone’. You’re welcome.

  • Oak Stave

    Jack: Or-uh-gun. Not Ora-gone.

    Someday you might have to come to Oregon. Learn it, and be welcome.

  • Baramos x

    No joke, I think I have sunk 300 hours into FFT over the years.

  • Paul Schumann

    I have no good reason for posting this. So there.
    http://youtu.be/kvODeuzfBKo

  • Baramos x

    Fortunately PS1 games work on PS3 (too bad they never got PS2 games to work).

  • Baramos x

    Did you just lump Skyrim in with Call of Duty? Just because the bros happen to have latched onto Skyrim doesn’t mean the Elder Scrolls games are just “big spectacles”.

  • Baramos x

    Is it as bad as 5? I basically swore off the rest of the series after that thing. Way to squander all the good will RE4 had bought you, Capcom…

  • Baramos x

    I knew the idea of letting people pay what they want would eventually fall through, and here it is.

    It’s funny because I have a crappy computer and can’t play most of the better games, but I’d still always “buy” these for the five dollars (or whatever the average had built itself up to at that point) just to support the idea behind it, and with the idea that someday when I finally get a new PC I can go back and play some of them. Now I can’t see myself paying 15 dollars for a bunch of games my PC won’t run (I’m not kidding, its a piece of crap).

  • Paul Schumann

    Huh I just finished watching Man o Steel for the first time last week and I actually liked it. Sure there were tons of things that were silly about it, but I like making Superman an alien outsider who cant save a city from destruction. I never cared for Superman as a character before this – he was mostly invincible and boooring. Now there could be an interesting dynamic with Batman seeing this weirdo in a red cape as a dangerous unknown. (Also I’d never cared to see Superman fight Batman but I guess Man o Steel actually made me want to see S v B now)

  • Fuck Me I’m January

    Pre-Rec doesn’t have any type of arc or storyline like HitB does. Not yet at least…

  • Fuck Me I’m January

    I thought Gamestation was a win, personally. It was a little unpolished maybe but it had an arc/sidestory to it like HitB (which I prefer over just a straight review show) and a lot more Rich Evans abuse.

  • Vinny’s TweetMachine

    Then it would be amazing to have a videogame Plinkett storyline. 🙂 With beer!

  • Chris C

    Uwe Boll BoTW special edition….

  • Crippen

    The tactical combat in this game had at least one major flaw: The way that the turns worked punished you for finishing off enemy units. Killing an enemy unit just meant that the other, stronger enemies got to go sooner. This backwards incentive meant that if you were playing the game optimally, the fights really, really drug out.

    Would you rather have 5 free turns with 1-strength enemies wandering around doing nothing, or watching 2 12-strength enemies take down one of your high-level characters because they got 3 turns apiece before he got to go once? In any other (see: well-designed) game, killing your enemies is a good thing. But in this one, you’re forced to waste your own time and slow the battles to a crawl in order to maximize your chances at winning.

  • Crippen

    By “innovative feature” I assume you mean “poor design decision.”

    The combat system in this game meant that if you played well, the battles slowed to a CRAWL.

  • Percy Gryce

    Great name for a horse.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Seems we disagree. I think now we’re supposed to insult each other or something.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    I saw Godzilla last night.

    Needless to say, I cannot wait until they review it on Half in the Bag! 😀

  • Noah Roalson

    Why is it that a select group of us continue to come back day after day to comment?

  • LelouchtheFilial

    See, I’m waiting until AFTER their review before I go see it, otherwise I’d have no idea what to think.
    Or maybe I’m just exhausted after a successive string of theater disappointments. Really, however this movie may have turned out, Godzilla, himself, looks great, and I’d like to see that on a big screen.

  • LelouchtheFilial

    To interact with the other people who come back day after day.
    Misery keeps good company.

  • JacobHunnter

    I’d like for them to play Outlast. Also have Jay as a guest, I’m sure he’d like the gratuitous gore in that, especially the expansion pack.

  • Junkie

    Half in the Frag: An alternate universe series where Blue Word Media hosts Richevans and Jack review video games while pretending to fix the Atari 2600 of some old hag named Ms. Plinkett.

  • Guest

  • jesseastle

    Don’t listen to the fuckers who are disappointed it wasn’t Godzilla fucking shit up for two hours. It’s a good monster movie. Hell, and I know I’m going to get shit for this, it’s a better monster movie than Pacific Rim.

  • Paul Schumann

    ya dick.
    (was that good? I’m new at the whole internet barbarian thingy)

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    What’s with people writing comments and then turning them into ‘Guest’ comments by deleting them?

  • Guest

    the real motivations of people reside secretly somewhere behind a mask of truth and lies deep inside a bottomless pit

    of infinite reasons that can themselves change at any given point in time it’s a rainbow of unknown entities that can only be guessed at with a suspicious mind

  • A203

    wasnt he in godzilla..

  • UdelJames

    Goddamn, bald guy really can’t stand anything without the CONSTANT ACTIONNNNN….! of CoD.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    This might the first movie I want to see before I see their review of it.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    In either case, it’s ridiculous.

  • Micheal Moore

    Mario and Luigi: Dream Team is a pretty kick-ass RPG. And you only have 2 characters in your party! The boss battles are different from combat against the random enemies as well.

    The Disgaea series also dealt with only the killing blow awarding experience. But those games featured team-up attacks where up to 4 people would attack simultaneously, the chance to do so increased if you would have them mentoring each other. If a killing blow came from team-up attacks, the experience would be shared amongst the participants, In this way you could have a super strong character stand next to several low level characters you just made or recruited, and power level them up to a useable level.

    The first Disgaea came out in 2003 on the PS2. And has spawned lots of sequels that keep adding features and improving graphics (well, the graphics difference is apparent if you put Disgaea 1 next to disgaea D2, which was the main series one after Disgaea 4)). If you want to make a good game, look at the features that are in popular games. You don’t need to copy everything, just understand what people like and why.

  • JudgeDredd

    Jack have you got a relative living in Thailand? The other day I saw a 60 year old dude who looks like you were made a clone of him…

  • My ex wife

    This is the best Superman film I’ve seen, but i don’t really like Superman.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj1MqHgFnmE

    Disclaimer: I haven’t seen The Iron Giant.

  • My ex wife

    Infamous is when you’re more than famous. This guy Taco, he’s not just famous, he’s in famous.

  • Filip William Östermark

    Wow. I’m actually impressed, this series is really coming together now guys, keep it up.

  • Thanatos2k

    Video games are different from movies. Video games, especially RPGs, are going to be a lot longer than movies and contain a lot more dialogue. Not everything will be shown instead of told.

    Melchior gives you exposition dumps. Gaspar gives you exposition dumps. Lots of people in Chrono Trigger give you exposition dumps. And the game still works fine.

  • Thanatos2k

    Bad voice acting is worse than no voice acting though.

  • Thanatos2k

    A Camera B Camera. Two people sitting on a couch, talking in shot reverse shot.

    That…was the reference you were going for, yes?

  • Thanatos2k

    So what? A slow methodical combat system that is highly tactical is not a bad thing.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    This is the first time in several years where I heard screams of delight at what was on the screen. It takes a lonnng time to get things going, but they did Godzilla fucking right. Unfortunately, 3 of the speakers in our theatre blew because of the bass in Godzilla’s roar, so we had to re-watch it.

    I’d recommend Imax if you’re gonna go. The sound design was phenomenal.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Agreed.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Did you get the Anti-Rape PSA before you watched it? Or was I the only one who had to deal with that horse shit before the movie started?

  • Thanatos2k

    That was part of the strategy. It was a core component of the difficulty of the game and why it was a lot harder than your average turn based strategy game. I wouldn’t want every game to have a system like that (I prefer the CT system of FFT the best) but it was a refreshing new system.

  • Thanatos2k

    The real problems with the story of this game is not the dialogue or characters or choices but rather the same problems as our old friend Star Wars Episode 4.

    1. There is no main character. Really, who would it be? Rook? The events happening around him are out of his control and understanding. Hakon? He disappears for half the game and isn’t important to the overarching story. Allette? She doesn’t even make decisions. Iver? He’s important to the story but he’s also not even an essential party member. Eyvind? He shows up 75% of the way through the game. Juno? Again, way too late. (Though I’m sure she’ll be more important in the next game).

    So the conclusion then is there isn’t any….

    2. There’s also no clear enemy. The Dredge seem like a faceless mob most of the game, until one of their general dudes shows up as a slightly more concrete threat, but never really speaks and has no personality. Then the snake shows up, but isn’t exactly an enemy. And then they flat out tell you the dredge aren’t the real problem. So what do you have? A Phantom Menace.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    You almost got me with the Episode 4 thing.

  • LelouchtheFilial

    Cool. I’m on it.

  • Cy

    I actually considered doing that, just to mess with people.

    But it would be too out-of-character for me, I think.

  • MatthewMelange

    Can they just review Mass Effect 3 already?

  • JacobHunnter

    I just watched it and it was simultaneously completely frustrating, but also joyous. I came out of the theater feeling very satisfied, so the third act was a beautiful release. Not terrible, but not great. I’ve certainly been far more disappointed by a number of Summer blockbusters just this year.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Wookie Beer Bellies!

  • Noah Roalson
  • ident

    Were there people who liked Pacific Rim?

  • ident

    There is a natural amount of self-talk we can accept. Gravity crossed the line in that and in the content of the self-talk. Many of the lines were cringe worthy and most of it amounted to running exposition, as though neither Bullock’s performance nor the visuals could be trusted to convey the story. All that says nothing of how ridiculous the story was in itself. It would have done the film a great service to not hammer that trite symbolism and leave more of it open to interpretation, seeing as any passing bumblefuck could’ve interpreted something more interesting out of the visuals.

  • ident

    The thing I disliked about ME3 was not necessarily the ending, but the absence of choice. I had two playthroughs going since ME1, full renegade and full paragon, and played them both through ME3 and there was almost no difference. In ME2, your choices had impact on your story. Through your decisions, your story could be a rollicking space adventure with everyone lining up for medals at the end or it could be a Shakespearean tragedy where you eke out a victory over the corpses of everyone who ever trusted you or depended upon you (and all the shades between). In ME3, it’s straight tragedy, no matter how you play it, no matter what you do.

    The game isn’t bad. If it wasn’t called ME3, it would probably be good. The problem, in my mind, is that Bioware established a world where our choices had impact, made us invest not just in the characters but in the specific relationships we forged between them, then pulled the rug out from under us.

  • LelouchtheFilial

    Mike and Jay *liked* it.

  • ident

    What was your favorite part? The charismatic lead with the shifting accent who was barely distinguishable from his cohorts? The Top Gun bromance that introduced pointless conflict? The Japanese lady who learned her lines phonetically? The inconsistent continuity in the Kaiju fights? That they housed the robots far from the location of the only place the Kaiju came into the world to give the Kaiju a fighting chance? That the pilots only remember their robot’s best weapons when it was dramatically effective to do so? That the two “science” comedy relief characters were ripped whole cloth from Roland Emmerich with the same degree of success?

    My personal favorite was the line where they said something that would have been right at home in a Michael Bay/Roland Emmerich/Robert Orci movie. Which line was that? All of them.

  • Always Late To The Party

    10/10 great outro would stop watching again

  • LelouchtheFilial

    All right… forget I said anything…
    I can’t debate you, Ident, because I’d lose roundly. I was having a shitty day and watching a giant thing punch another giant thing kind of cheered me up a little. I haven’t seen it a second time and I honestly probably won’t see it ever again. Forgive me for having been a mouth-breathing high schooler.
    So, whatever… shitty movie… Okay. You win.
    Really, I can’t bear to be put in the “Ident Hotseat” for too long, because I’d just end up looking stupid.

  • ident

    I saw that movie after the review. I went in wanting to like it because I was an RLM fanboy with no aesthetic compass of my own. There’s nothing more disturbing and disorienting than to witness, first hand, the toppling of a personal idol. Excepting, of course, when you yourself are the toppler and you keep kicking it over and over as angry tears burn your eyes. I lost a lot of faith that day. And my sunglasses.

  • fskn

    Oh, I fucking LOVE Bilibin.

  • LelouchtheFilial

    Hey, we lived through the Robocop 2014 review together.
    But now that I got the “Wh-why are you picking on meeeeee?” comment out of the way, I guess an actual response is in order.
    Did I like the bland lead? No. Really, no. I’ve forgotten everything about him.
    TopGun Bromance? Don’t remember that, either, so… OH, WAIT! Yeah, what the hell did that even amount to?
    Phonetic line-learning? Ah, that was pointless. I know Del Toro wanted a simple, stupid action movie, but it kind of seemed like he put deliberate handicaps on his own movie. Why?
    Inconsistent continuity? I had a consistent boner, and that was all that mattered.
    The robot base being stationed so far away from the Kaiju? I… I don’t know.
    Them using the sword only when it was dramatically convenient? I actually had a FEW emotional reactions to this. I sort of scowled, sort of sighed and sort of laughed. It sounded like I was choking on something. The man behind started performing CPR… or maybe that homeless man was just humping me.
    See, Pacific Rim was a lot like being ground into by a homeless man– I shouldn’t have liked it, but I kind of did.
    What DID I like?
    I liked how hero-dude and Japanese-girl didn’t develop a romantic bond. With the way the dialogue was… I don’t know, romance would have been too painful. I’d cringed enough times in the theater.
    I liked how human beings weren’t totally useless. In movies with giant monsters, humans are just kind of… witnesses. And in a Transformers movie, they just keep shoving humans into the mix to give the movie just to prove they’re there.
    In THIS one, they reconciled the giant monsters and the giant robots with regular (horribly one-dimensional, but whatever) humans by having the humans pilot the robots and mentally linking with the robots with great cost to their personal health and safety. So… some humanity. Some heroism. I liked that.
    Frankly, when people say things like “Oh, it was just a punch-em-up movie about robots fighting monsters! You got EXACTLY what you were expecting” I want to say “No, not really. You don’t have memorable characters, you don’t have memorable lines and you watch the characters grow, but they were never really characters to begin with. The movie COULD have delivered more.”
    Really, the movie succeeded in bringing out the child in me in some ways and failed in others. The child in me who wanted to see BAAAAAAAAAAADASS ROBOT BATTLES? Eh… he was thoroughly entertained. The child in me who wanted heroes to look up to, who wanted characters to stick with him? Eh… that child was out playing with a ball or trying to make friends or something. He wasn’t really into the movie.
    It didn’t really seem to me like Del Toro wanted to make a great Mecha-movie– it seemed as if he deliberately lowered himself so that Pacific Rim would be as cheesy and stupid as possible.
    But their were SHADES of Del Toro in this movie and at no point did I want the Kaiju to win because this earth was too stupid to exist.
    So… there ya go. My gut tells me that I thought this movie was okay. I don’t really care much about it, if you hate it, fine, but… I thought it was okay.

  • LelouchtheFilial

    Really, I’ll probably only see this movie again if there’s a Rifftrax or something.

  • LelouchtheFilial

    MilWookie beer bellies.

    Edit: Damn, I keep coming up with these puns after everyone else has already moved on.

  • ident

    When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I
    thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things…oh, wait…I thought I was talking to Percy for a second. Thinking with your gut hasn’t been cool since Bush was in office and you should probably cut that inner child out before he makes you watch Dora the Explorer all day while eating Cheerios from the bag. Then again, I spend my days trying to find reasons not to put a gun in my mouth, so whatever you do don’t take advice from me.

  • LelouchtheFilial

    Okay. My immature brain tells me I thought this movie was okay. And I watch Dora the Explorer from a man’s perspective– never has the cum-hole in my TV been larger.
    Frankly, my feelings of this movie don’t matter, anyway, because I’ve only seen it once and have no interest in seeing it again.
    So my diatribe was pointless.

  • AngorMike

    I’m pretty sure this game is pirated from candy crush saga.

  • Thanatos2k

    Crap. Movie 4. MOVIE FOUR!

    I’ve gone too far in a few places.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Your pun was most appreciated.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Oh no A203, you too? :'(

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    The Anti-Rape PSA did NOT play before Godzilla, no.

    It’s too bad, too, because people in the audience got raped during the film… if raped can be stretched to include feeling ripped off by paying for a film.

    Wait, am I going to get shit on for using the hot-button topic of rape in a joke?…

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    I know who you are, Shane Von Russell!

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    [I reveal when the main monster shows up and how many monsters there are which is hardly a spoiler, but read at your own risk]

    Just to clarify, I felt underwhelmed by the film. The first act was damn brilliant, I felt, and when Godzilla shows up in the second act it was great. After that, however, the film lost its weight. It wasn’t able to reconcile the serious, foreboding opening first act they set up and advertised on all the trailers with the more inherently silly giant monsters destroying things and fighting in cities.

    On a technical level, this film nailed it. It was shot well and the action and reveal scenes of the monsters are executed really well. On a more thematic level and when it comes to how much heart the film had, it underwhelmed me. Most problems were things that could have been fixed at the script stage as the execution of them is fairly competently done.

    Bryan Cranston was great, giving a strong, believable performance of someone who is reacting to these mysterious and strange events, giving the film weight and making it seem like humanity is at stake; you want him to have resolution for his character arc and you can feel sympathetic for his character. He took the material and elevated it. The rest of the film, though, has rather bland characters.

    The pro ta gon ist is Aaron Taylor-Johnson, who has little else to do aside from being stoic, acting serious, and looking wide-eyed at things in disbelief/shock. We can relate with his motivation to get back to his wife, but he lacks the proper character development to really make us care; he didn’t have much charm in this role. The other characters seem rather cold and cool-headed even though they’re dealing with giant ass monsters running loose across populated areas. It makes it seem as if the stakes aren’t very high. I can’t really fault the actors, though, as some of the dialogue is clunky and perhaps the director felt their performances were appropriate for the film but I don’t think it worked so well.

    Perhaps the silliest part was when the two other monsters aside from Godzilla meet and start rubbing their giant heads against each other lovingly while imitating each other’s noises. One of them [slight spoiler] gives the other a nuclear warhead as a gift of some sorts. My friends and I were thinking “What the fuck IS this?…” and laughed.

    By the time the third act rolls around and we get the epic climactic fight in San Francisco, I stopped caring pretty much. The plot was getting rather silly and there were no characters I cared about to base the fight on. it ended up being a bunch of CGI stuff happening on screen with no real human element to it. The plot was getting far too silly as [spoiler] the timer on the nuclear weapon must have been counting down at half or one third the normal speed as so many events occur after it was set that it would have gone off before they even reached it… then some soldiers decide to carry it out of a giant crater all the way to the dock with about 30 minutes left. A fucking NUKE.

    Anyway, I’ll stop there. I’m curious to see how Mike and Jay felt. I’m almost certain they’ll bring up a few points I did, but I’ve no idea how they’ll feel about it. Again, well done technically, but it lacked heart and felt rather cold, which stopped me from caring too much about the monster showdown. Overall I liked it, but rather marginally. Shame, too, because I felt this had a lot of potential.

  • nuckable

    Really enjoying this show. Hope to see/hear a little more of your background in gaming, like Rich mentioned that he likes TBS games. Stuff like this certainly helps to know how to relate to your recommendations.

  • I’m one of the silent watchers; I also frequent this site quite often, but I’m too uncreative to come up with witty comments.

  • Now I Get It

    Your appreciation is most punishing.

  • catnep

    ^ subliminal seduction

  • catnep

    Turn into? You act like it’s a choice.

  • Now I Get It

    That love-terror dynamic has kept the spark alive for a lot of otherwise unlikely couples.

    http://needcoffee.cachefly.net/needcoffee/uploads/2007/07/beaker-bunsen-honeydew-muppets.jpg

  • Noah Roalson

    …the hero RLM deserves, but not the one it needs right now…and so we’ll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he’s not a hero. He’s a silent guardian, a watchful protector…a dark knight.

  • The Summer of George

    “In Milwaukee, carpentry screws you.”

  • LelouchtheFilial

    Here? No.

  • HNSZ

    Don’t rape hmmkay. Rape Is bad hmmkay.

  • JacobHunnter

    Are you forgetting Fuckbot-5000?

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    I’m not hunting a muscly hedonist.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Just quote various RLM things. You’ll fit right in.

    That’s right, Jay!

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    For the love of RLM, please don’t bring out the banana sharpener.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mggl7cC8iys&noredirect=1

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    No one’s going to understand that reference.

  • Constantine1985

    Nice. I’m really enoying this show. Keep’em coming.

  • bibbish

    Guys, try Fire Emblem.

  • Noah Roalson

    Your right, we all are!

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    *Yor

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Too soon?

  • LelouchtheFilial

    HE’S THE MAN!

  • Alex Lee

    Which one? There are 12 of them.

  • Alex Lee

    That always seems like the biggest problem with Godzilla movies in general. It’s not really about the humans in the story at all. All the memorable stuff is Godzilla fighting various monsters, and the monsters are recognizable. Godzilla was never a smart movie, and there are a lot of ways it can end up stupid, so a movie that avoids stupidity is actually impressive given the material it’s based on.

  • Robby

    I might check this game out. Not to defend a game that may actually be bad, but I think it’s hard to dig into an RPGish game like this when you’re sitting on a couch with a friend for 6-8 hours. I don’t get to play many turn-based strategy games. I’m still waiting for one better than Gladius.

  • Obviously FakeAlias

    This is a much, much better review format, but I sort of miss the framing device and skits of Gamestation 2.0. Obviously this is a lot less time-consuming to do, so I understand, but still.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    I could even forgive having rather unmemorable human characters in the film had some theme going for it or was about something, like the original Gojira film. The giant monster destroying cities in the film is a metaphor for the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the giant monster itself is a symbol of the atomic bomb. When trying to defeat the monster, they worry that the weapon they create may be more dangerous than the monster itself. In that case it’s a parable and is commentary about the attacks of those cities.

    It almost felt like this film, Godzilla, was headed in that direction through the first act. You had a real sense that there were high stakes and that there was no easy path or clear answer to how to deal with these giant monsters. It felt like these monsters were going to be the physical embodiment of certain fears or anxieties. As it goes on, though, the stakes feel lessened and it becomes some odd race for a nuclear weapon, almost like a sneaky cat and mouse chase. It doesn’t feel like the film is trying to really be anything more than what it is. Some could say that’s a positive, but I felt it was a negative and makes it feel like they rebooted it just because they could.

    I know I’m mostly saying negative things about the film, but I still think it’s roughly a 3.5/5 film [if I had to quantify my feelings towards it, which is sometimes difficult]. I’ve a decent number of friends who felt the same about the 3.5/5 rating. However, tastes vary and judging by some, they thought this was great on nearly every level. There are some great, visceral thrills to be had. Godzilla feels like he has physical weight and you get a great sense of his massive size and scale. The film sounds great and the action set pieces are done rather well. This is what I mean when I say it’s great on a technical level. I just felt it lacked that extra little bit of heart or meaning that would really make the film connect and hit home.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Here Rich Evans is enjoying video games instead of giving us what we really want:

    Rich Evants Reacts, Rich Evans Draws, and last but definitely not least…

    Rich Evans Falls Down and Gets Injured

    http://i.imgur.com/NXQpfsU.gif

  • WrongWithYourFace

    It’s amazing how those two stacks just move to the side instead of falling over.

  • ident

    It’s all that testosterone.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    No. Now you gotta fuck a fish.

  • Gene Parmesan

    There’s a guy who kind of did that already. He admits to being heavily influenced by RLM, and occasionally makes video essays on the gaming industry. There not trying to be as funny, but the insight is all there.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MlatxLP-xs

  • Cy

    Hm.. Now I kinda want to make a Rich Evans video game.

  • Thanatos2k

    I could watch that all day.

    You know, I think I will.

  • Now I Get It

    So, I’m…I’m your honeydew. Sweeet.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    NIGI please.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Kickstarter Campaign! Get on that.

  • Cy

    Well maybe, if RLM is cool with it. (Not really sure.)

    For now, you can wait with baited breath while I whip up a game prototype.

  • Awakening might be good if they never played an entry in the series before. It’s pretty accessible for new players, but also comes with the option of being more difficult. Though personally, I think FE7 would be better if they’re looking for maps revolving more complex strategy and goals, as long as they’re willing to put up with the 40-minute tutorial/prologue.

    Plus, I’d get a kick out of seeing who they decide to choose as their waifus/husbandos, and their reactions to the adorably goofy confession scenes.

  • Noah Roalson

    Fix you profile picture already man, my OCD is acting up 😉

  • jaymanxyz2

    Proof that Steam has something against RLM:

    The timing is nefarious…

  • AceRay

    Rich Evans doesn’t drink alcohol.

  • Captain Turbo

    I’d like to give you $100 million to develop this into a full-length feature.

  • Noah Roalson

    I’m drawing a parallel between this and The Phantom Menace scene where Obi Wan and Qui Gon just instantly sprint out of frame due to lack of creativity….

    http://www.elle.com/cm/elle/images/3r/Cryinggifs_01_1.gif

  • jaymanxyz2

    This just in: the next game to be looked at is Titanfall. Can’t wait.

  • jaymanxyz2

    Look at how far Rich Evans throws that one tape.

  • Alex Lee

    No, I think Steam is just seeing the numbers and bad reviews.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    He’s so talented.

  • pdexter

    Banner Saga actually got 80% over at metacritic.

  • Duckler

    Every single game has no much going on..

  • Duckler

    Oh, my groin?

  • Duckler

    Vid’ya games..?

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Oooh! Did you get this information from Whatswrongwithyourfacebook?

    I never bothered to make an account.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Is James Van Der Beek a poor man’s Ryan Reynolds?

  • Domo_Konnichiwa
  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    To Hell with a Man of Steel sequel. Lets make it JLA 0.5: The Beta Test!

  • jaymanxyz2
  • Noah Roalson

    You think I would know that? I’m just a frickin wookiee 😉

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Sweet. Thanks!

    Although I didn’t stop the film in time to avoid Catnapped, and now the goo won’t stop coming out.

  • dollar store cashier wife

    first off this is old as fuck.that logo was shown the very first day that was announced.on the other hand that is pretty creative direction for the banner saga DLC.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    You’re a wookie that can post animated gifs of a crying man baby; don’t hide from your true destiny.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    But the website link is the new logo/press release/official title. They just didn’t have a logo to make as a gif that I could see, so I used that.

  • dollar store cashier wife

    lazy indie game developers.fuck em

  • Percy Gryce

    Did somebody summon me from the depths of hell, er, ah, mention my name?

  • Noah Roalson

    In the words of my friend Han “I’ve seen a lot of strange stuff, but I’ve never seen anything to
    make me believe there’s one all-powerful force controlling everything.
    There’s no mystical energy field that controls my destiny.”.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Han hasn’t met Rich Evans, then. Poor guy.

  • LelouchtheFilial

    He’s apparently confusing the two of us, you old codger.

  • Thanatos2k

    What bad reviews? The game is actually great.

    Only a handful of sites gave it below a 7. Most are 8s and 9s.

    Steam reviews are filled with a vast majority of thumbs up reviews.

  • Thanatos2k

    Wait, why is one of the tapes green instead of black? What is that?

  • joey
  • Percy Gryce

    SPOILERS!

  • Percy Gryce

    Way to stand up for yourself. Ident wants you to challenge him. Tell him how Pacific Rim was a nearly perfect 21/c reimagining of the Japanese robot and monster movies. Sure, it was goofily multi-culti and the science guys were a bit stereotypical, but he was the only one who was there for anything but the crazy fight scenes, Ron Perlman’s comeuppance, and the happy ending.

  • vile

    All I ever played was the multiplayer (which was a lot of fun) So I gotta say you guys are doing it wrong, the archers are what got the majority of all my kills. Plus you guys gotta learn to balance out this sort of thing, it’s not to hard to arrange these battles so that the units in need of kills get them, kinda like fire emblem.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Here’s the logo she [Domo, you’re a she, right?] was referring to that’s on the official site. It honestly looks like someone’s school project instead of a logo for a film that will most likely cost around $250 million.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    BATMAN v SUPERMAN

    YAWN OF DULLNESS

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Thanatos2k, you can’t just ask a VHS tape why they’re green.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    Pretty sure this was the only time I’ve seen you say this that was semi-relevant, yet I still enjoyed it.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Your text is Christopher Nolan-level intense.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Thank you. My husband simply sent a link of the new website, saying there was a new logo, and not really seeing the difference between the 2 on a small screen, posted the other one without paying much attention.

  • ident

    Not unless you’re the Romantic poet Percy Shelley. If you are, learn2swim, bro.

  • ident

    The fake logo in I Am Legend looks better. The bat looks like it should lay off the Ben & Jerry’s. I guess it’s a slam on that fat fuck Ben Affleck.

  • ident

    So Taco meets another female and let’s the world know. We get it, Taco, you’re not gay.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    Do you think they can even do the I Am Legend version of the logo because of it’s similarity to Tim Burton’s Batman logo?

  • ident

    I can’t see how. If there was an IP issue, DC would own the logo and derivatives of it.

  • WrongWithYourFace

    It means alien invasion. Now what can we conclude from all the other tapes being black?

  • C’us of racism.

  • ident

    I notice everyone who likes this game is mentioning Fire Emblem. Perhaps Banner Saga should come bundled with Fire Emblem so we can all know how Banner Saga should be played and appreciated. Or perhaps we should just play Fire Emblem since everyone says its the same thing only better. Yet you’re here defending Banner Saga? Or are you promoting Fire Emblem? What the fuck is going on?!

  • It’s also a similar system to Final Fantasy Tactics. Or Disgaea. Or any strategy-RPG really. I think people keep mentioning Fire Emblem because it’s known for handling the individual leveling of characters pretty well, while everything I’ve been hearing about Banner Saga has said it does so poorly.

  • LelouchtheFilial

    You’re too smart to actually buy that.

  • LelouchtheFilial

    Oh, your “husband?” I see. Women can play the “not-gays” game, TOO!
    And, frankly, Ident’s right. I’m sorry, Domo, but all the guys of RLM will need to make lewd passes at you and ogle your Domos as you walk by in order to clarify to devoted readers of our comments that we’re straight.
    Whenever the RLM commenters convene for our poker nights, chattering in the smoke-haze of our phallic cigars (they’re JUST CIGARS! THANKS, FREUD!), we’ll all need to make at least one obligatory comment about how we’d like to take a bite out of your squishy vagina-pie.
    Yeah, it’ll be uncomfortable and embarrassing for all of us, but if we don’t devote unnecessarily-long amounts of time in our lives to the “no homo” defense, then our blatant desire to suck off Jay (I wonder if he has a beard down there) will start to seem suspicious.

  • Domo_Konnichiwa

    I don’t know if Jay’s ‘other’ beard is meticulously groomed or not, but Mike keeps his chest hairs in great shape.

    http://hairpinturnsahead.typepad.com/.a/6a0133ec7b075a970b019aff330fc7970d-800wi

  • LelouchtheFilial

    This was the greatest picture I’ve ever seen.
    In fact… forget the “not-gays” stuff. This image alone shows that it’s not worth it.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    My boyfriend loves it when I pretend I have a case of the not-gays. It turns him on so much when he feels like he’s tempting me. Aside from me having a boyfriend, though, I don’t see how anyone can tell I’m gay.

    Oh…

  • LelouchtheFilial

    I guess the Coex Aquarium isn’t a Co-ED Aquarium

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    It’s funny because that picture was taken in South Korea and I’ve heard that the older generations mostly deny that there are any gay people. I had to bang a chick quickly before I disappeared in a puff of logic.

  • LelouchtheFilial

    Puff of logic?
    If they didn’t pull so hard for the “not-gays” stuff in Star Trek, that sounds exactly like something Spock would say.

  • Mitchell Taco Nash

    I’m referencing “The Hitchhiker’s Guide of the Galaxy”, more explicitly this passage [mind you, I’ve never read the book]:

    “‘I refuse to prove that I exist,’ says God, ‘for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.’
    ‘But,’ says Man, ‘The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn’t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don’t. QED.’
    ‘Oh dear,’ says God, “I hadn’t thought of that,’ and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.”

  • WrongWithYourFace

    If they’re actually playing online… They should just put “A chance to play with Rich Evans!” on the game cover and Titanfall would be dominating the market.

  • LelouchtheFilial

    Plus, comparing it to a Roland Emmerich movie was absurd. Yeah, we’ve got silly scientist characters, but interdimensional dinosaur battles is a pretty silly scientific situation.
    Emmerich movies are about natural disasters or alien invasions that sort of bank on the audience’s knowledge of the places being destroyed (OH NO! NOT THE WHITE HOUSE!) in order to make the audience give a shit about what’s happening on screen. In Pacific Rim, the Kaiju destroy the Golden Gate bridge within the first thirty seconds of the movie and then we just move on to the post-apocalyptic world. This was SO not a Roland Emmerich movie, because it had a built-in subversion to Roland Emmerich tropes in the PROLOGUE.
    Also, when Emmerich directed ‘Godzilla,’ they needed to obscure Godzilla in the rain in order to hide how shitty he looked. There were rain battles in Pacific Rim, but each battle against the Kaiju was awesome and every single Kaiju looked great.
    While writing this, I actually wound up disagreeing with both Ident AND myself from earlier. I want to see this movie again some time.
    Well, I probably didn’t sway Ident, but I swayed myself.

  • Percy Gryce

    I resemble that remark. You make it sound as though I go around yelling “Fire!” in a crowded VCR-repair shop.

  • Its_So_Dense

    Damn it! Hurry up and do Godzilla 2014 so I can know what my opinion is!

  • Its_So_Dense

    Yeah, my first thought was Suikoden 1 & 2—but while those battles were not extremely complex in a mechanical sense, the emotional investment really makes them feel quite epic.

  • jaymanxyz2

    You should prepare yourself for the possibility that they may instead review some other, less-known movie and make snide remarks about the people that expected them to review a more popular movie. But they’ll probably review Godzilla. Maybe. We’ll see. This comment is over.

  • Its_So_Dense

    Yeah, that’s a possibility. I actually don’t care one way or the other, since I won’t be going to see it. I stopped going to the movies about 2 years ago, and now I just watch Hitchcock and depressing 70’s sci-fi with my girlfriend. (I also just learned that the town I just moved to has a Hitchcock-only movie theater. Would love to watch “Rope” on a big screen. Holy shit). Damn. I even derail mySELF!

  • vile

    I don’t know anything about the single player game and not defending it, I just liked the multiplayer. And the only that is very similar about this game to fire emblem is about spreading the “kill” xp. The attack/defense system and the chess turn taking is very different from fire emblem, as are the unit sizes and special abilities. I guess the thing I liked about the multiplayer is that it was very much a thinking strategic game, similar to chess but also with vikings and giants and stuff killing the shit out of each other. I also liked winning which I did most of the time for the short time I played it.

  • TyUnderwood

    why are you saying Oregon like that? It’s a real life place, people drink soy lattes and have beards there.

  • It’s gonna be great.

  • Teddy Östermark

    I like this. More of this. Thank you.

  • wtg203

    Thor-egon trail.

  • Vinny’s TweetMachine

    He should, he would be even more fun and awesome. It would help his Aspergers.

  • I really hope you guys hook up with James Rolfe the Angry Video Game Nerd sometime…Please get James on a project with Mike and Jay as well! You are all pure genius.

  • thatsrightjay

    that’s all?

  • vspngs

    Transistor.

  • Abbie Clarrk

    Are you a daredevil? I dare you to see this … CAUTION!! Not for people with weak hearts http://goo.gl/TjajJE

  • AceRay

    He had bad experiences with a family member who was an alcoholic, probably wouldn’t be a good idea.

  • Baramos x

    Those were just complete playthroughs, I’ve had several sort of starts where I get about halfway through the game and put it down for months for some reason or other, and end up starting again.

  • Stephen Norman

    No and no.

    I didn’t say that the dialogue should be rich. I said that use of dialogue should be part of good writing, part of showing. And no, it isn’t just used as a criticism or applied only to descriptive writing. It’s used as a rule of thumb across the board–I’ve seen it brought up in literature study courses, courses on applied creative writing, as a guide in journalism, in English 101 surveys courses even for keeping the audience engaged in reports and essays by showing some and breaking up the monotony of reporting facts and tying in opinions, and the same kind of discussion in a debate class I had.

    The dialogue can be drab if that fits the characters. I haven’t played this particular game, but if Rich is correct in saying that this game tells instead of showing then it would mean that not enough dialogue–drab or not–is used over simple descriptive statements like “this is happening.” If there is a good amount of dialogue PLUS evocative language when the writing is describing (which IN TOTAL would equal showing instead of merely telling), then he may just be wrong.

  • Hobbes Maxwell

    wow, normally I’m not really one to comment but I disagree with this
    whole review. INteresting how viewpoints can swing so much either way
    based on preference, cause you guys do fantastic movie reviews that I
    normally agree with.

    the problems with the game mechanics you
    guys ran into I found to be easily explained very well in the first half
    hour of gameplay, so I’m not really sure how you missed them, plus the
    dialog choices do matter, your choices about how you respond to
    situations effects who lives and who dies, you can gain or lose
    characters pretty regularly every time you run into an event.

    I
    loved this game and paid full price for it. to anyone one else out
    there, totally buy it, or at least watch another review first, this one
    is a totally great game.

  • Daniel Bakke

    Well shit, you finally did it. You’ve made a game review series I really enjoy. Looking forward to the next episode, guys. Good job.

  • OmniRemix

    ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ Raise Your Jimmy Jams! ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ

  • pliskin

    I love how awkwardly uncomfortable the intro and outro are, they are just perfect. LOL

  • Kyle

    Ha ha, Oragawn trail.

    I’m surprised you didn’t note that the fight system is just like Advance Wars/Fire Emblem. You might’ve also drawn a parallel to Final Fantasy Tactics. And a lot of other games probably.

    The mechanic where the stronger characters get stronger is likely an intentional mechanic. It adds a layer of strategy where you have to try to let the weaker characters get kills when you can.

    Also, you’re right that it’s maybe a little weird to be introducing new mechanics so many hours into the game, but lots of games do it. The Assassin’s Creed games introduce new stuff like Mediterranean defense and tower defense and crap up until like halfway through the game it seems. And Final Fantasy 13 introduces their weird quest system like 60 hours into the game, towards the end.

    Those viking shirts look like they’re just pulled on, just like you guys’s. What was the confusion with the viking shirts?

  • DeColonise

    Nice that you are doing some games again, have you any plans of maybe bringing a discussion on the latest Tex Murphy game. Tex Murphy: Tezla effect ?

    It’s afterall 16 years ago since we last was able to play a tex murphy game 🙂

  • dirk beefhammer

    Do Dark Souls next – I like it when Rich Evans cries.

  • Veteran of the Psychic Wars

    What I didn’t understand about the shirts was what was supposed to be so confusing.

  • Andrew Harding

    I know you guys will lose a show if you don’t think it’s doing too well, but I love seeing Jack and Rich talk vidga games. Please let this be a regular show on the site, it’s great.

  • Neck beards, young Sir, NECK beards.

  • Phil

    I agree. This review was enjoyable to watch, and saved me the pain of ending up buying that game.

  • Phil

    I got the impression that it was more about introducing core mechanics too late in the game, rather than introducing a mini-game like a tower defense, which lots of games do.

  • Phil

    END

  • Alex Lee

    Speaking of the Banner Saga, the composer is actually being sued by his own union for working on the game. Regardless of your feelings on the game, no one deserved to be backstabbed by the union.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvraGNfKVY

  • Matthew Banes

    We LIVE there. I think our way of saying it trumps theirs.

  • Guest

    Turns out Rich Evans is in the new Smash Bros.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2974350/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

  • Now I Get It

    I can’t believe I just got that. Then again, like Tim Krul, I’m usually good on only two of five.

    http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2014/07/06/448736-goalkeeper-tim-krul-of-the-netherlands.jpg

  • Becky

    How do the Vikings get their shirts on over their giant horns?

  • Malevolence

    There needs to be a Previously Recorded Tab at the top

  • Alex

    I definitely second this post. It seems from the review that they were heavily influence by preference and missed several key instructions given within the first few minutes of tutorial. When they said the War mechanic was introduced seven hours into the game, I was very confused, unless they left the game afk for six hours, I do not even know how that is possible. I do not know if this was exaggeration on their part or not.

    In regards to plot and character development: their
    statements about the duration in which they played, coupled with the
    fact that their footage all comes from the first two chapters of the
    game, makes me suspect they did not play the whole thing through. This is like reading the first few pages of a novel, whilst in the exposition stage, then abandoning the novel under the complaint that there was no plot or character arc.

    Additionally, the branching dialogue does get exponentially more complex and consequential as the game progresses. The first time I played, I tried to be a good and caring leader to my clan, but was backstabbed numerous times and lost many characters. Later playthroughs I attempted more heavy-handed or downright nasty leadership styles with a wide mixture of events and character interactions

    Aside from these major points, some other tidbits of contention:

    -Morale does play a part in the game, it explicitly states it both in and out of battle in early tutorials and, of course, you could hover over it for a tooltip. It affects willpower in battle, an especially important component in later and longer fights.

    -There are no “weak” or “strong” characters, almost every character performs some sort of function that plays off others. Alette, their example for a “weak” character is important for hitting multiple enemies in a line and creating a chain reaction of damage.

    -When they talk about the game played on an Excel spreadsheet: this could be said of any turn-based game from Tic-Tac-Toe to TCGs to more elaborate turn-based video games. Just because there is a mathematical element, does not nullify any variety or fun.

  • catnep

    Of the way we… werrrrrre (sniff)

    RIP World Cup 2014.

  • Now I Get It

    Mmmerry! I am so glad you weren’t eaten by coyotes. (sniff)

  • catnep

    Oh me too, Pip! It really was a harrowing escape. I’m not even sure where they all came from?? But this sudden and wholly unexpected influx of coyotes to Middle Earth is precisely why I put strips of bacon in my socks now!

    Suggested method: Bacon+Socks go this way. Just don’t throw your house keys away with your socks like I did!

  • Now I Get It

    Unions do great harm in professions, such as the Arts, in which the workers are not just interchangeable. And it’s as if the Arts works best when the artists are free to make their own infrastructure from scratch, tailoring it to support each new creation.

    Yet for years musicians from Pete Seeger to The Strawbs have sung the praises of unions in general, with only one, to my knowledge, singing against the AFofM in particular.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoUVBYHYy4s&index=1&list=RDqoUVBYHYy4s

    I think this Austin Wintory knows the truth of his business: that committees always impede the division of labour.

  • Now I Get It

    You may or may not be missing much. Like the humour in Joseph Heller’s Catch-22 or any of Oscar Wilde’s witticisms, all of Douglas Adams’ jokes have the same rhythm. I read the whole series and the plots were fine, but by the end his style was cloying my soul.

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