Regarding Picard’s characterisation, it’s made pretty clear that he isn’t behaving normally and that he’s taking the Borg thing personally. The Borg want to fight their way to Earth in the present because otherwise they give potentially thousands of species early warning of them, and want to stop First Contact so that earth can be assimilated quickly without the complication of other species being alerted. And remember, the Borg want to add to their “perfection”, so they want to assimilate species with the high technological capabilities – this may be why they chose to go to the very latest they could before other species got involved, because they couldn’t stand the loss of all that lovely earth tech as it was, let alone more. If they tried it too early, they may have even considered it a detraction from their perfection, because any tech they gain is already obsolete.
http://www.facebook.com/daniel.westgate.100 Daniel Westgate
Yeah but it comes out of nowhere. Whenever Picard on the show acts strangely it’s usually because of an outside influence. He just does here because…we’re not even told that he’s having some sort of mid-life crisis or anything. He just snaps. Which is hard to believe given his character. Had that been the only problem with the movie, it’d of been passable But all the other problems show that they didn’t really put any thought into it.
kingofmadcows
I get the feeling that Ron Moore had intended for this to be a DS9 movie. It would have made way more sense for Sisko to act the way Picard did.
Lagerbaer
You can’t have black leads in Hollywood that aren’t Will Smith or targeted exclusively at the “urban” market.
roomwithaview
Have you noticed how Lily shoots cybernetic life forms so passionately yet lives so quietly? My theory is that someday life and shooting androids will become one and she will be wonderful in both.
http://zolterdeus.deviantart.com/ Alterdeus
I think the room with the window is for an escape if the ship were to crash land on a planet like in Generations. Can’t be solid because people need it to get out, has a force field and blast door because it’s supposed to stay closed but if someone opens it then the force field stops people from getting sucked out into space and the control panel turns it off.
http://twitter.com/DanielBurke1 daniel burke
Stop making retarded excuses for crap writing.
Lagerbaer
And of course this emergency exit is only accessible through a tube and not via door?
Fabiolean
Holy shit you’re right!
PumpkinPie
I’ve never eaten Pizza Rolls in my life, but there’s something about Plinkett reviews that creates within me an insatiable desire to get in my car and go get some. They also make me want to get married, just so I can kill my wife and make it look like a car crash.
ex1lepr0
You know what to do….
flundar
I actually did a few days ago. They are not super yummy, but you can eat them. Don’t under-cook them and don’t use a microwave if you have the time.
Astor
you mean wives?
Klappa
Put my wife in the microwave? Thank you for the tip!
Mr.Guy
I like how the dish is charged with whatever and can ‘destroy half the ship.’ So if you’re in a battle and somehow a shot gets through shields and hits the dish, 1/2 of the ship blows up? Has that ever happened to any ship in the Trek universe? Maybe it could be a new military strategy.
http://profiles.google.com/charlesp2009 Charles Petrosky
Yeah, I thought the same upon first seeing the movie when I was 10 years old. New battle strategy: target the deflector dish! No need for trilithium torpedoes or a hidden webcam in Geordi’s visor! Destroying the Enterprise is getting easier!
Geordi Laforge
Well, as soon as the shields go down it’s pretty much over. Whenever this happens it’s always “One more direct hit and we’re done for!”
Obviously you can’t hit the dish when the shields are up.
http://twitter.com/DanielBurke1 daniel burke
I am glad you mentioned this. A lot of people don’t see these things. A bit like Anakin Skywalker (or should I say silly moptop generic kid) building CP30 at such a young age. It can’t be done.
http://twitter.com/DanielBurke1 daniel burke
In fact building a robot at all would be immensely difficult for any 1 person.
Westenra
Well Lily mentions she spent years scrounging up enough material for him to do his work, so I dunno maybe next time pay more attention? Also plenty of famous people were alcoholics
Panda
Don’t justify Episode One, ever. There will never be a next time and there was never a need to pay attention.
Also, plenty of famous people certainly were alcoholics but none of them were rocket scientists. The people you’re thinking about are musicians, actors and politicians. They don’t get to go to space.
http://www.sunnystrangers.blogspot.com/ Bryan M. White
“…so I dunno maybe next time pay more attention…”
Wow. What an ass!
http://www.facebook.com/daniel.westgate.100 Daniel Westgate
There are child geniuses out there, and a good example is Tony Stark. The difference here being that he has the means…a genius father/educator and money. Age isn’t a problem in fantasy. But a slave in the middle of nowhere? Then again, Tony built a suit in a cave, so fuck it. This isn’t really a plot hole so much as a “one in infinite probability” type scenario. It’s unrealistic, true, but could it happen? Yeah. It’s just not explained at all. Maybe the guy grew up with people who were trying dabbling in getting back to progress and he happened to have a lucky brilliant idea brought on by an epiphany he experienced while hallucinating on absinthe.
715
Well for Anakin its explain in a comic book (like everything about the Prequels) he found CP3O in a dumpster mostly intact Anakin was just repairing him as a hobby. Yeah he does say he wants to use CP30 to help his mom but even she knows its just something for Anakin to take his mind off the whole being a child slave.
http://twitter.com/DanielBurke1 daniel burke
You must be extraordinarily stupid to ask what he has a problem with when he explains it in the video.
Jon
I want a pizza roll
Dan Soares
And there’s another thing he didn’t mention and that’s very unsettling to me: how come energy-based torpedoes such as the ones used by the borg, which were to designed to take on CAPITAL STARSHIPS SHIELDS, only cause that little damage to the humam “camp”?! Just one was supposed to have lain waste to those houses… I guess that’s one more fine example of sloppy writing! XD
http://www.facebook.com/jimmy.dee.7967 Jimmy Dee
I would like a pizza roll.
Dave
Actually if the Borg wanted to pick one of the best times to assimilate people then they should have gone back to 1920. A wave of demiliterisation was sweeping most of the world then in the wake of WWI and with the world decimated by the Spanish Flu as well it would have been prime time to assimilate without resitance.
http://www.facebook.com/daniel.westgate.100 Daniel Westgate
Why not go back to… …I don’t know, tribal times? You could even not touch humanity and have them worship the Borg, learning that human aspect as they grow. Then when the population is huge, assimilate them.
http://www.facebook.com/geahk Geahk Burchill
Yeah, except humans wouldn’t be any use to the borg as tribal aboriginals. Why assimilate a species with no technology. It would be like Apple trying to train dogs to build iPhones.
Tim
Crap. I liked this movie. Now I realize it actually sucked.
Daniel Lee
technically Data used his robot strength to break that big green tube. He also does this really cool James Cameron liquid effect when his head shot in the head in front of an elevator.
mvpstd
With the recent shootings in mind, I wonder if those escape tunnels they used would be viable in a similar scernario. Obviously, the main advantage is cost, but with the size forcing people on their 4′s like in the movie, you’d have backlash from the claustrophobic children and the families. If we lived in a more perfect, utilitarian society, people would see the benefit of such a program and would just acknowledge their children would be last in line. But nooo.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Webb/1405341955 Chris Webb
their incessant babbling created the evil mirror universe
http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Webb/1405341955 Chris Webb
and then suddenly worf has a purple space bazooka
http://www.facebook.com/daniel.westgate.100 Daniel Westgate
On that matter, if the Borg can just go back in time and all this stuff happens, why couldn’t another race go back in time and stop it from happening? Someone would surely notice at some point… Hell, even the Q might not let this happen.
http://www.facebook.com/daniel.westgate.100 Daniel Westgate
I don’t believe you can beam in while shields are up.
That window is where a clamp attaches when the ship is docked for maintenance.
boobs mcgee
You know, I loved this movie. But I just now fucking thought of this. Why would the Borg go back in time to assimilate the human race? A lot easier perhaps, but it makes no sense unless the Borg are out for revenge. It is stated several times that they assimilate to add to their perfection. There would be no benefit to assimilating humans in the pre warp past. What could they possibly have wanted that would add to their so called perfection? Even on Voyager, some of the peoples of the Delta Quadrant lived primitive, agricultural based lives, so as to not be tempting to the Borg. Another one has Janeway making a shuttle look tastier than it was so the Borg would assimilate it. I suppose they could say they saw humans as an actual threat to their existence so they went back in time to destroy human kind before they grew strong enough to be a threat to the Borg? I don’t know. This is a pretty big deal, and it’s what made the Borg always so scary and spooky. They didn’t care about wealth or diplomacy. They sought the perfection of their being at all costs. They harvested technology and resources from anyone without remorse or compassion in order to fuel the juggernaut. This makes them different from Romulans, who we always see having children, loving them, etc. They have sons and mothers, yada yada. The Borg are completely inhuman, and worse when they make you one of them they destroy you as a person. Terrifying. Unless they decided they had a thirst for vengeance at the meany head humans that wouldn’t submit then assimilating past humans just seems like a lazy plot device. It also destroys all the spookiness of the Borg. Voyager does this a little bit by adding the Queen as a more prominent character. But she’s so creepy herself it kinda works. She IS the Borg. And if you view the drones as her arms and legs the creep factor goes up. Anyway. Sad. I’m with Plinkett here. There are two parter episodes that are far more compelling than most of the TNG movies. But I still think Nemesis was the worst!
715
Unless its to take out a treat. Lets assume the Queen is like Locutus she’s not the real head but the voice of the Borg (yes Ronald D Moore said she’s a person but he’s also the man who ruin Battlestar with he “god did it” bullshit, so he can’t explain anything for every)
So humans have been messing with the Borg for a while now, first it was Hue who messed of the Collective. Some don’t understand how but it makes seance wend Picard says being “individualism is awesome” they just think he’s being a smallminded idiot being part of the Collective awesome. But wend a fellow Borg said “maybe individualism is awesome” they acuity start to think about it.
Plus Voyager is annoying them so let’s say one cube wants to try and take them out beforehand, the rest want to say and fight the Undine
But yeah this movie is stupid and I can’t believe it took an MMO to give the Borg there balls back
Cereus
The forcefield window could be like an access hatch that isn’t meant to be open in space? For like repair crews and shit from outside? But then if it’s a part of the ship that requires a jefferies tube and a large exterior hatch (you know important enough for repairs/whatever that you have a hole in the hull to get in) why doesn’t it have a door. The purpose of that room might haunt my nightmares for a while.
Whargoul
I would like to formally request a pizza roll be sent in the mail.
they look more like pizza pillows. And yes I’d love some.
Eric
I hated this movie so much, I’m glad someone agrees with me. They made Zefram Cochrane, the inventor of warp drive into some dumb redneck! They also establish that “there’s no money in the future”. Which is dumb, since that contradicts almost everything else in Trek (there’s plenty of instances of Trek characters mentioning money or alluding to it), and Picard’s explanation sounds extremely naive. Yes, I know this isn’t the first time that was “established”: Kirk said so in “The Voyage home” too. I think this may be another example of the movies contradicting the series. At some point, the Voyager writers took this as canon, and mentioned something called “the new world economy” in the “Think Tank” episode. Loved your review, it made me laugh!
http://www.scream-movie.net/ Charles Petrosky
Earth doesn’t use money. Other races do, the Ferengi, etc.
AnimationworksNL
Some help please: In the FC review there is a reference to the purple space bazooka from an earlier review. And I’m sure I have seen it before but now I can’t find it anymore. What review is this from originally?? I can’t find it in the other reviews of Generations, Insurrection and Nemesis. Where is it? Please help me, my brain is collapsing in on itself.
fah q
Pretty sure the purple space bazooka is from Insurrection.
http://www.facebook.com/kevin.cooper.3538 Kevin Cooper
I just noticed something, at 9:59 in the review, they have a coil looking thing that looks very familiar to the the sabotaged equipment thingy in the 1957 film “Forbidden Planet”. I am not able to locate a photo or movie clip, if I recall it is around 45-60 minute into the film, Forbidden Planet seance that is. It is a nearly exact duplicate.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Dion/100001763278600 Sean Dion
Why is there so many injustice advertisements before and during the videos? And why do they have superman promoting the soviet union?
Schmavid
Actually if you are looking at Kirk’s conduct during the trilogy he is punished at the end of Voyage Home for his conduct in Search for Spock. In fact he is reduced in rank from Admiral to Captain. Sure it works for both Kirk and the audience, he becomes the Enterprise captain again and we get our hero back where we have always wanted him. But he is punished and that was for one major violation in three movies. At the end of Undiscovered Country it makes sense that there would be no prosecution because they helped to ensure that the peace between the Federation and Klingon Empires was not derailed before it had begun. Piccard in the films however is just disobeying orders because thats what was expected of action hero’s at the time. That they would disobey orders and do what they thought was right. Loving the work Plinkett.
BlackLotus
If you take a good,close look at the hatch you see it closes after her.
http://thenewyawker.darkbb.com/ Congslop
Bah! I love this movie!
http://thenewyawker.darkbb.com/ Congslop
I think Enterprise revealed that Cochrane actually told the truth about everything that happened.
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