Mr. Plinkett’s Ghostbusters (2016) Review

August 8, 2017619 Comments

Who ya gonna call? Why everyone’s favorite curmudgeon, Harry S. Plinkett! He’s back to breakdown what went so terribly wrong with Ghostbusters (2016) and why it SUCKS so HARD.


Filed in: Plinkett Reviews

  • Ret Marut

    Is it future or is it past?

  • Garland

    oh sorry, there it is

  • Senor Huxtable

    Neat!

  • yayyy! fourth!

  • Sam

    Be warned… Uninspired memes are coming.

  • my dad was going so wrong, then this popped up. Thank God.

  • Clinton Arneson

    please don’t let this be 56 minutes of a black screen… aaaaa I’m scared… lol <3

  • stryker1121

    I hope he’s OK.

  • smogmos68

    This is so cringe. This world has become mediocre. T.V., sports, movies. All because of sjw’s and that aunt that lives is in Seattle. Cant wait for the “Girl power” The Good The Bad and the Ugly.

    Can’t keep nothing nice.Eat shit and live. You all suck.

    Praise KEK and ShinGojira.

  • smogmos68

    And if I see one more women kicking the shit out of a group of Marines I am going to puke.

  • thismachinekillsfascists

    Got a light?

  • Bleurgh

    Sweet, can’t wait to see this.

    War for the planet of the apes is a legitimate masterpiece you guys. Just FYI. Best one in the series so far.

  • frankelee

    Boy, Mike really wanted that third Ghostbusters movie.

  • Sloth

    Meh

  • smogmos68

    Stop dancing! Men won’t dance just because it is in movie.

    Lot of dancing in Predator and Die Hard.
    Just fill in the blank.

    Lot of dancing in ………..!

    Learning a musical instrument is work and needs talent. Dancing is for those who don’t work and have no talent that is why so many do it…..unless your name is Bambi then it is only talent.

  • Fuck yeah.

  • Sloth

    Lots of dancing in Footloose!

  • I just don’t have the same issues with this movie as the people who seem too upset about it.
    I agree the movie was too long and bloated, but that wasn’t a deal breaker for me. It is a flaw, but not a lethal one. I laughed enough at most of it that I thought it was fun.

  • lol. arent typos wonderful?

  • The ‘STOP TALKING’ comment was the most on-the-nose for me. It was just so damn talky that you never even had time to stop and consider what had just happened.

  • smogmos68

    Ya another well executed action-comedy-sci-fi film.

    Remember when Bacon had to use his commando skills to show that backwards town.

    I may be a drunk but I will be sober tomorrow. You will still be retarded.

  • smogmos68

    I am sure you are the life of the party telling those fireman and poop jokes that we heard in kindergarten.

  • Sloth

    *cuts footloose*

  • Herpyderp

    Is the fact that this review is incredibly lazy and regurgitates points that have been made a million times some sort of meta commentary on how Sony makes their films? Because otherwise, I’m kind of disappointed RLM.

  • I enjoyed this.

  • Cream-A-Thon

    Do the Emoji Movie next, it really sucks hhahahahhaha LOL!!!

  • Leo_Silva.

    This was fucking glorious

  • Bubs

    2 minutes in, it just fades to black and plays Transformers sounds. FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I just nominated Harry S. Plinkett for the Pulitzer in Film Criticism.

  • kensu

    It would’ve revealed that Manhattan is Hell and Heaven is in New Jersey. What’s not to like?

  • Andrew Carter

    Paul Feig’s career has been heading downhill ever since “Ski Patrol”

  • itbegins2005

    I’ve been saying for years that the biggest screw-up of Ghostbusters II was that it turned the characters into superheroes– or at least, that the film started FRAMING them as superheroes, even if the characters themselves were still basically the same. You can’t make aspirational characters funny, or vice versa; the two qualities are mutually exclusive.

    I’m glad to see that Plinkett called out the remake for basically doubling-down on that particular f%$#-up, because that bothered me like crazy watching the new movie.

    … Also, HOLY SH*T, A NEW PLINKETT REVIEW!!!

  • Joshua Norton

    These comments make me want to drink bleach. And I don’t even like bleach.

  • MikeFromCanmore

    This Is The Water, And this Is The Well. Drink Full And Descend. The Horse Is White In The Eyes And Dark Within

  • I think the problem with the 2nd movie was that it also had a different audience than the first. I think the first was mostly for adults, but the second movie was aware it had a large following with children (I think the cartoon series debuted around this time) and the film was certainly shot with kids in mind (if you watch the two back to back, it’s super apparent they were actively keeping their “heroes” from smoking on screen the way they did in nearly every scene in the first… for the kids, I’m guessing). I was born in 1983 and was a fan of the 2nd movie as a kid as well as the TV series, but it wasn’t until I was a teenager before I ever saw the first. I think that’s why the tone to the second movie is so different– gotta sell those toys!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    You mean Zima?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Paul Feig is like a rubber-faced Mark Gatiss.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    All the talking made me think of MASH. Except MASH is a good movie.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Bambi became the talented host of University Challenge.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    A bit mouthy for a basement dwelling eunuch.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    You’re comedy is to much!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    These are the hands and these are the people, etc., etc.

  • itbegins2005

    It is funny how many “clearly-aimed-at-adults” movies in the ’80s ended up attracting substantial young fandoms… and how some of those franchises ended up destroying themselves by trying to cater to it. Ghostbusters is a big one, and RoboCop fell into the same trap (which, after going SUPER dark in the second movie, tried to bounce back as a PG-13 adventure for both the atrocious third film and the crappy reboot).

    Of course, to movie studios, “appealing to kids” usually means “dumbing it down”, so that’s probably why these attempts usually fail.

  • Aquaman317

    This is so fucking brilliant. Love the Plinkett edits, it actually put some polish on this turd. You guys have outdone yourselves!

  • Mike was pretty careful not to say things like “It’s not because this movie featured women” which seems to be a call to feminists to jump in and say “Yuh-huh, you hate it because it stars women!”, which I think was wise of him. I think it is so bizarre how people defend the movie BECAUSE it has women in it. I just consider that offensive as a woman myself, like we’re not expected to be able to make better movies or something. After watching the movie for myself, in theaters (it was AWFUL) I just felt like the support I saw for the movie was out of pity for the female cast.

    Mike did a great job of pinpointing where the movie went wrong. I mostly blame the director, rather than the cast, since this is easily the worst thing any of them have been in that I’ve ever seen. They’ve all proven they are talented, this movie just wasted their talent. I wonder if they secretly kind of hate this movie now that they’ve all seen the final product, and they just can’t say anything…

    What I’m a little afraid of is that people actually do like this movie. And a lot of people do! People I know are intelligent and interesting have defended this movie. People I know with good taste somehow liked this. And something most of them agreed on is that they liked this movie… but NOT the original film. It makes me wonder if the original film (which I like very much, but nowhere near as much as Mike… I definitely see its flaws when I watch it but I really love a lot in there as well) is too out of style for millennials. Comedies in the last decade or so do seem to have a lot of constant dialogue, a lot of improv, and most have a weak plot so it can make room for crazy banter. I’ve seen younger people complain about a series taking too long for anything to happen, when to me I see it as taking time to develop characters and let the plot and themes sink in so we actually care when things happen. I don’t find myself enjoying a lot of modern movies, unless I specifically watch movies that might as well write “no teenagers allowed” on the poster. I often think at 33 I’m out of touch with the Millennial generation, even though I think technically I’m a Millennial by a year. So I guess it shouldn’t surprise me that people today maybe wouldn’t like the original but clamor for more Ghostbusters REMAKE stuff.

    I thought the movie was awful. I thought Mike hit on nearly every single reason this new movie was awful. Most of my friends loved it, and my guy friends who didn’t like it don’t dare say they didn’t like it in public because they’ll get called sexist pigs for it. But I have also accepted that I am, unfortunately, just old enough that I’m out of Hollywood’s target demographic for these kinds of remakes, and they are going to keep making them until the NEXT generation gets a little older and says “This shit is dumb” and, I dunno, the next generation of films are silent and in black and white again to compensate for the over-saturation and constant noise of so many recent blockbusters.

  • Bleurgh

    LMAO, I had no idea about the Bridesmaids thing. I assumed Paul Feig had written and directed it and that’s why Sony was in love with sucking his dick. The fact that it was written by the two female leads and Sony approached Feig instead of them just totally skewers the whole feminist argument behind defending this movie. The whole project was based in a misogynist decision to give a hack dude a film project over the legitimately talented women who’s work he took credit for. I think that’s a way bigger feminist issue than the gender of the actors.

  • Trent

    Hey Plinkett you wast your time on this sorry pos?
    You still owe us a proper full episode , hole ripping of that Pos ….Star Trek into Darkness.
    Come on !
    Every line and every scene in it , is prime material to tear apart !
    You need to complete your destruction of the worst Star Trek movie .
    Especially With a new STD coming out on cbs all access ,you need to take care of that last STD first !!!!!!!

  • I worked in Hollywood for a short time and it seems in the 80s and 90s you’d get an adult-aimed movie that had surprise appeal for young kids, which would lead into a PG or soft PG-13 sequel with merchandising galore. Robocop is definitely one of those movies. Some movies sounded like they should have been for kids but were surprisingly dark in tone (TMNT first movie, Batman 1989 movie) and then subsequent sequels were usually more colorful with less swearing and fewer sexual innuendo. But then in the early 2000s that changed, and movies that were actually for kids started targeting teenagers and a slightly older audience. A woman I worked for worked on a CG animated movie for kids that was CLEARLY for kids and she said she fought for a PG rating, even though it only needed a G. That’s why nowadays it’s a lot harder to find G movies in theaters… because Hollywood realized college kids will see Disney movies, etc, and I guess they think the PG coaxes them in easier.

    I’m glad I was a kid in the ’80s, though. Movie franchises didn’t usually start out completely stupid, had a more adult atmosphere, and the humor was better, imho, because they weren’t making those movies FOR kids. Nowadays… ugh. I don’t know. Transformers “films”, no thanks…

  • itbegins2005

    I really am kind of pissed off at Bill Murray for being the ONE hold-out for so long on a Ghostbusters III project– and at Sony, for being so diligent about refusing to produce a new sequel WITHOUT him. A Ghostbusters III without Venkman would have been disappointing, sure, but even that would HAVE to have been better than this middling turd of a remake.

    Plus, the most recent Ghostbusters III script that was pitched to Sony, from two of the writers of The Office, was actually pretty good! It needed plenty of work, true, but it had the clever hook of the Ghostbusters business being taken over by a slimy C.E.O. who turns it into a glossy, ineffectual franchise corporation, staffed by pretty-looking twenty-somethings who don’t know jack about science. Ray and Egon were kicked outta the company (Ray had an eyepatch, which I thought was neat), Winston was demoted to a mechanic job, baby Oscar was a schlubby new employee at Ghostbusters Inc. (I immediately pictured Michael Cera), and Pete… was the Mayor of New York (honestly, that was my favorite touch).

    Of course, the boys eventually get back to running Ghostbusters Inc., and they end up battling Cthulu (seriously), whom Ray, Pete, and Egon beat by crossing the streams again… and dying. Winston ends up running Ghostbusters Inc., Oscar ends up working with a new team of young Ghostbusters… and the movie ends with Janine catching the ghosts of Ray, Peter, and Egon playing poker in the firehouse at midnight. It’s such a perfect ending for those characters!

    Dammit, Bill Murray. I’m glad I’m not the ONLY one who’s pissed off at you.

  • Totally agree! After seeing this review, I went to Wikipedia because I had thought Paul Feig had written Bridesmaids as well. Explains a LOT about the quality of this script versus that script (and I’m not a big Bridesmaids fan, but I would take Bridesmaids over the new Ghostbusters ANY day). Would have preferred the Bridesmaids writers handling this one (I don’t think I’ve liked anything Paul Feig had a major directing/writing part in, though…)

  • Mr. Pedantic

    Freaks and Geeks was great, though.

  • itbegins2005

    At least since the Transformer movies are all shot on digital anyway, we can justifiably save ourselves the ignominy of calling them “films”.

    But yeah, it’s really disappointing that studios these days are so hell-bent on finding that sweet spot between being “grown up” and “edgy” while still being tame enough to appeal to kids (or rather, tame enough for parents to be comfortable with their kids watching it). It’s the quickest, easiest way to either create dismal, unappealing “kids” movies, or to ruin movies that CLEARLY should be catering to an adult audience (the recent Dark Tower adaptation comes readily to mind…). There’s no room for distinct, clear tones or stories anymore; EVERYTHING has to appeal to EVERYONE.

    That incessant urge to homogenize will be the death knell of cinema, if this keeps up.

  • Mr. Pedantic

    And Patty is supposed to be…Louis Tully!
    Killed me.

  • Bleurgh

    I’m not a big Bridesmaids fan either, but I think it was much better than this festival of turds. I seem to remember some funny moments and dialogue in it here and there. A Bridesmaids style Ghostbusters movie might not have been great, but it would have at least been something. That’s clearly what Sony wanted, but it isn’t what they got. Paul Fieg is the weakest part of any Paul Fieg project. Imagine how good a Kristen Wiig / Anna Mumolo written and NOT directed by Paul Fieg version of Ghostbusters might have been. Like it might have been amazing, but I’m sure it would be less unfunny and nonsensical, seeing as they seem to actually know how to write a script and have a sense of humour.

  • It would have been great if they could have collaborated with Akroyd and Paul Feig was nowhere near this train wreck. I’m a fan of the whole “passing along the torch” idea that was originally conceived, and I had hoped the original director and writer would have more say in things, but it sounds like Feig was hesitant to reshoot anything, even when it did not perform well with test audiences.

  • Bleurgh

    I actually got a laugh out of the Ed Mulgrave / Jr joke with Plinkett / RLM’s editing. Shocking.

    The constant talking I think had a lot to do with Feig knowing the script wasn’t funny enough and telling the actors to just ad-lib as much as possible. So much so that they became ad-lib automatons filling every available space with inane blathering.

  • Ehhh… I never got into it for some reason. I was easily the target demographic when it came out, since I was the age of the characters and a Freak/Geek myself, but I never saw it until I was an adult, and it just never clicked with me. I do think it was cancelled too soon, though, and that I would have liked it more had I seen it when it initially came out.

  • Your comment on Transformers not really being a film… yes, that is an excellent point, haha.

    I think I am really grateful for TV right now for filling the gap the movie industry has left. Game of Thrones is so NOT for kids, and it even ups the sex and violence compared to what’s in the original books, and I love it for knowing who its audience is. There are dragons in this thing and yet you’re not going to see action figures of these monsters at Toys R Us…. actually… maybe there are toys, I have no idea. I don’t live in the States, but I sincerely hope they don’t have any tie ins with Mattel…

    So movies can go on being dumb and fast-paced with forgettable characters, I will enjoy my adult fantasy epics, my Better Call Saul type character analyses, and whatever else I’m watching on my days off.

  • itbegins2005

    I think it is so bizarre how people defend the movie BECAUSE it has women in it.

    Well, Sony did effectively weaponize the backlash the movie’s trailer received on YouTube. By positioning the film as an empowering feminist parable facing down absurd, vitriolic hate and sexism, they implicitly suggested that anyone who criticized the movie was, by default, a sexist. And it worked! People ended up so worried about being perceived as sexist that, like you said, they defended the film in spite of its obvious crappiness– including, unfortunately, the critics who ended up getting this film certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.

    But the championing of Ghostbusters as a great feminist milestone was pushed entirely by the Sony marketting machine– so once the movie came out, all that support disappeared and I think most people forgot the damned thing even existed (except to either complain about it or to defend it and establish one’s not-sexist bonafides).

    Interestingly, this year’s Wonder Woman movie ended up becoming the “feminist milestone” movie that Sony wanted Ghostbusters to be– not by explicitly trumpeting its feminism in promotional materials, but by telling a good goddamn story that women were actually excited to see and talk about. They weren’t cynically aiming to capitalize on pro-women sentiment; they just made a GOOD movie with a woman in the lead. That’s really all it friggin’ takes.

  • Adez

    I appreciate the takedown of Sony (though I would have appreciated you mentioned their mediocre animation division which holds back Gennedy Taratavosky skills, and scared off Phil Lord and Chris Miller) I thought North Korea ruined Sony, but their were at a downward spiral for a while

    Not much discussion of the disasterous marketing with the woman, which I suppose it’s nice not to pandering Alt Right bandwagons, Mike is more sensible and discerning to look past that stuff (also may not be good enough to examine complex social issues), personally I wished Sony just stop reheating their old franchises that nobody under 30s to seem modern and progressive (while discouraging thw older fanbase) but falls flat with such lazy insincerity

    But to those nerds (that were probably kids that liked the mediocre sequel and the tv show that had little to do with the people that made the first movie) Ghostbusters wasn’t meant to complicate franchise, it just got lucky, Ghostbusters 3 would have been disappointing anyway, let this series just die and move on

    I just can’t stand new movie comedies, which just feels like bloated sitcoms with flat composition and inane conservations as filler, dialog based comedy is so hard, I like the sharp wit of something of Archer, Tarantino and old Kevin Smith, but that requires tightly planned pacing and rhythm that can’t be improve

    I kinda like this review more than Rogue One, as it’s more focused

    Parks and Recreation is one of favorite show, though maybe it’s Greg Daniels showrunning made those writers better

  • thismachinekillsfascists

    Sounds like a Kevin Smith movie…

  • Adez

    Also why would kids even watch a waterdown version of the cool edgy stuff they like? Especially since they would get older

    Going from light hearted to seriousness works better for a franchise that can grow along their audience

  • thismachinekillsfascists

    And that’s the waaaay the news goes.

  • Adez

    Mike finally doing a full animated movie review

    Ha, I been asking that since Paranorman

  • Adez

    I thought this review was fine, but eh most of the points of this review was explained by Ralph The Movie Maker long ago, such as the improv and flat direction

    But I did appreciate the behind the scene trivia

  • Adez

    Even with Mike thought out criticism to not pander Right Wing socialists, shallow bandwagons still try to hitch on a mediocre movie failings, as if Sony cares about any politics aside getting money

    This movie could have been whiter than a John Hughes movie set at 1940s Germany, it will still suck, because it’s friggen Sony

    As a Libertarian, I just get amused of how such snowflakes the alt right are, and how much contranian hipsters they are, they might as well follow 1984’s motto unironically just to annoy other people despite being against their own interests wearing
    “War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength” shirts

  • Cream-A-Thon

    He could use a challenge. This was just shooting fish in a barrel.

  • kylemz

    I had seen the cartoon before finally seeing the original when i was 10. The Stay Puft scene really made me laugh, having seen that character as a cartoon but never knew what its context was.

  • Bubs

    …Open up my dungeon and see all the hookers?

  • Bubs

    Just like when I lost my virginity to an overweight hooker, this review was crushing, expertly delivered, filled with slime, and over too soon. I know it was an hour long, but I could seriously listen to Mike as he breaks down every single second of this flopbuster; right down to the midichlorians.

    And with regards to Paul Feig, he is the epitome of every suit in Hollywood. Completely lacking in creative talent or vision, but knows all the right asses to kiss to keep getting work.

  • instant relief

    While the review is an entertaining watch, contentwise it’s beating the deadest horse ever.

  • Joe Syxpac

    This seems like the perfect movie to have a Nadine/cosplayer/cheerleader tied up in the basement and being tormented by Plinkett.

    This is just a fuckin’ review. No hookers getting poisoned with Raid. No threat of flesh devouring insects. No dead babies.

    You guys are going soft.

  • Sloth

    RLM has gone mainstream!

  • Sloth

    The deader the horse, the easier it is to beat!

  • Joe Syxpac

    Pretty soon they’re gonna be on Channel Awesome.

  • instant relief

    *off

  • I think it was smart not to include any even remotely misogynistic jokes in this review – there’s so much rabid bullshit surrounding this movie that it needed a clear, concise dissection without cutting to “haha, hookers in my basement!”. I think that legitimately would have undercut the effectiveness of this review.

  • Sloth

    He coulda microwaved a cat or sumfin, tho.

  • Nah. Come on now, that’s just backtracking.

  • Did we really need a Ghostbusters 3 though? Everyone seems to act like it was this huge missed opportunity, but are also incessant in bringing up that the original Ghostbusters was “lightning in a bottle” – you know… something you can’t capture again? Can’t we just have one good movie without turning it into a franchise?

  • It SOUNDS like Paul Feig is being an extra nice guy when he says that “everyone I work with is amazing” – but to be honest when I think about it a little harder while taking into account that he didn’t write Bridesmaids – it kinda makes me think he’s really just complimenting himself based on the merits of other people. Like – he ALWAYS Works with amazing people because he too is amazing. But maybe I’m reading into it a little too deep. He might just be a polite corporate tool.

  • Sloth

    He relies on those around him to make the movie good because he has not talent. He’s just a hack in a fancy suit.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Yeah, that’s why it would be funny.

    This movie is begging to be barefoot, pregnant and chained to a stove.

  • Yeah but then I’d be seeing dozens of think pieces about how RLM is some sort of horrible misogyny factory who hates women in my FB feed. Not really in the mood. Their reactions wouldn’t really be funny to me, just annoying.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Only on Youtube.

    Here we’re all misogynists.

  • People don’t write think-pieces on Youtube, they write hate-speeches.

  • Spoiled Ants

    At 17:02, is the first time I noticed how similar the actress who played Nadine and Sheila in HitB sounds like Annie Potts.
    D’oh.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Besides, they don’t even have to use a woman. You could have Jay in a wig chained in his basement (“How did I even get pregnant?”). Plinkett could keep referring to him as Kristen Wiig and demanding that he write a better Ghostbusters movie.

    Of course then we’ve insulted the transgender and gay community.

  • Is all the “shock humor” the highlight of it for you? For me that’s always been icing on the cake, and tbh as I’ve gotten older that icing hasn’t seemed quite as appealing as it used to. I’m not saying it wouldn’t produce a chuckle out of me, it just seems like focusing on that very specifically is a great way to paint RLM fans in a bad light.

  • Joe Syxpac

    If I want to see Ghostbusters deconstructed all I have to do is watch the HitB episode. Or type “Ghostbusters review” into my search engine.

    Plinkett reviews (for me, at least) are about more than just the movie. They’re about the character reviewing the movie. It’s not the “shock humor” that I’m interested in, it’s the character insight that the shock gives you. We learned NOTHING new about Plinkett in this review.

    For me, the review is the icing. It’s how the character goes about doing the review that’s interesting.

  • Boldizar

    I agree. I think the world needed a more approachable review to tell them just how stupid this movie is and how dumb they are for defending it.

  • Boldizar

    ” It needed plenty of work, true, but it had the clever hook of the
    Ghostbusters business being taken over by a slimy C.E.O. who turns it
    into a glossy, ineffectual franchise corporation, staffed by
    pretty-looking twenty-somethings who don’t know jack about science”

    That hit too close to home for SONY.

  • It’s 50/50 for me but I get where you’re coming from.

  • Sloth

    We learned that he’s purchased a whole bunch of “as seen on tv” convection ovens.
    There’s your dose of character insight!
    Maybe not as shocking as you’d like.
    But definitely not something that would be included in a typical review.

  • Terriosaurus Hex

    All that incessant talking, it’s like YouTube commenters posting their twatwaffle before watching any video out of some obligation to be first to be noticed. So. Much. Twatwaffle.

    Anyhow, you guys have a really good talent for finding the most awkward of interviews for these videos, it’s quite respectable, Bill Murray looks dead inside though, makes me rather sad.

  • Boldizar

    I have vowed to quit film all together if Casablanca is ever remade. This corporate hack bullshit has already gone to far but prawns keep paying for this crap.

  • Boldizar

    This is a good point. Why do these fools want to watch the stupid hack version of something. Well, the original Ghost Busters doesn’t have queef jokes!

  • Sloth

    They remade Casablanca back in 1980. Caboblanco stars Charles Bronson. It’s essentially the same movie. The only thing they changed was the setting. So you should have quit film a long time ago!

  • Terriosaurus Hex

    If you want shock humour, go watch old Frankie Boyle sketches. But once you explore every possible taboo, it’s basically done and loses any impact. That’s why many self-critical creators don’t continue that vein endlessly because it’s pretty limited and runs dry quick.

  • Boldizar

    It was terrible, but not worth mulling over. Its script was stolen from Wreck It Ralph and stripped of any soul, then glazed over with mind numbing promotion of zombie kids and their stupid phones.

  • Boldizar

    You know, I think someone told me this before. Alright I will qualify, if Casablanca is remade as some big budge, corporate, all demographics targeted piece of shit. Basically if it is made for the big screen in the foreseeable future lol

  • andychrist

    you didnt mention ghostbusters 2 being just as much a misguided and shite attempt to cash in as this(as you did in the commentary for gb2) even if it did have the funniest joke ever written in it (slinky)

  • grootsuit

    Is Paul Feig played by the guy who does Niles Crane?

  • Spoiled Ants

    Is that a song from the The Garbage Pail Kids movie?

  • MichaelKz

    Good points in the video and my chief takeaway from the review is that Ghostbusters 2016 is a sad, corporate mess that could have been a good movie. The culprits that made the movie shit are that Sony Pictures executive and Paul Feig; I can’t believe that guy started out as the science teacher on Sabrina the Teenage Witch.

  • MichaelKz

    Ghostbusters 2 had the classic ’80s sequel problems.

  • Kawaii as Fuck

    I will weep at never getting to see the Ghostbusters battling Cthulhu on the big screen, fuck everything.

  • Kawaii as Fuck

    While it was funny and refreshing to finally see this shitpile torn a new one, the ending is seriously depressing, like drink myself into a stupor depressing….

  • MichaelKz

    Same here. I guess it would help if I had seen Bridesmaids, but maybe the jerkoffs at Sony didn’t either? That adds an extra layer of missed opportunity to Ghostbusters 2016.

  • MichaelKz

    I only watched it because Joel Hodgson was on the show playing the school janitor.

  • Omis

    Half in the Bag did it better.

  • MichaelKz

    Don’t say that! (shudder)

  • I think part of the missed message here is also that in the original Plinkett reviews, the undertone of that type of humor was not necessarily just shock value – but it was hyperbole of atypical male-dominated, movie-going audiences with an apologetic meta attitude about it. At least that’s the way I always saw it. It wasn’t just “hey haha this is offensive to someone” it was like “this is the type of shit we see in movies only comically overdone for the sake of self-analysis”.

  • Andy James

    No, he’s the alter-ego adopted by Scott Thompson after Kids in the Hall went off the air.

  • Andy James

    Yes, you could argue that Bill Murray understood Ghostbusters better than anyone based solely on the fact that he didn’t want to make a third 20 years later.

  • MichaelKz

    Buddy Cole’s slightly more butch cousin, but a way bigger embarrassment to the family than Buddy.

  • RPK

    I agree with pretty much everything said in the review, but I believe there is no way to make a decent prequel, sequel, reboot, or whatever to the original Ghostbusters. All attempts would feel hacky and regurgitated.

  • Right, and this is exactly what I’m saying. From what I heard prior to this review, Bill Murray was strong-armed into being involved (I don’t know the details exactly), so I don’t really consider it “his fault” just because he held out on making something earlier on when he probably didn’t want to be a part of anything in the first place. In fact, in their Ghostbusters 2 commentary I remember them mentioning how Bill Murray just sort of mysteriously finds ways to be in the film as little as possible, because like with the reboot, he didn’t much want any part in it.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Well crap, do I have to actually watch this film now? It looked like warmed-over ass in the trailers, including the so-called “funnier edit” trailer they showed in the UK, so I just avoided it like I did the unnecessary Robocop remake, and the so-forgetable-I-forgot-they-even-existed remakes of Poltergeist and Total Recall.

    And then Sony’s whole “everyone who doesn’t watch and love this film is a sexist bigot” marketing ploy (which was retried with both Fury Road and The Force Awakens, and the more recent Wonder Woman, to a thankfully much lesser extent) really, really turned me off of the whole thing. It made me instantly assume the film was even WORSE than the trailer already made it out to be.

    So, do I need to watch the film to properly enjoy this Plinkettique?

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    I liked the whole “now take the puppy away from the child” scene, myself.

    GB2 has the benefit of directly copying the first film, beat-for-beat, and a crap cash-in sequel sort of fits the original film anyway; Peter, Ray, and Egon would totally be involved in a cheap 80’s cash-in sequel.

    In any case, Evolution will always remain the true sequel, in spirit anyway, to the original Ghostbusters.

  • No I was wondering the same thing, but I didn’t watch the film and I enjoyed this just fine.

  • commodoresixtyfour

    NERDS!!

  • Child_Of_Old_Leech

    LESS IS MORRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

  • Fury road and force Awakens were before GB 2016 though.

  • durhay

    I clapped when I saw Pringles.

  • Trent

    f you go back a year for this crap film ,you can go back and do STD

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Well, then not “retried”; trialed, maybe. Suppose it depends when the GB trailer first premiered.

    Point is, this seems to be the new big marketing gimmick, like viral marketing was about 8 years ago. Studios gin up a fake controversy about possible sexism, usually involving finding one random critical blog post somewhere on the internet and writing a thousand critic articles lambasting the “sexist, men’s rights, etc” article.

    It generally just detracts from a film, rather than making me want to go see it. I skipped Wonder Woman for largely that reason, as well as my general feeling that the DC film universe is a waste of money, and I didn’t really want to see a bunch of random German soldiers being killed by a “hero” just because the studio thinks that German = Nazis.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Thanks.

  • durhay

    No, that would be “it’s always the quiet ones”

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    ‘Evolution’ did a pretty good take back in 2001. Even ‘Mystery Men’ has sort of the same spirit.

    But those are only spiritual “sequels”, obviously.

  • Cody Klein

    “Germans = Nazis”… they were in World War 2, and every account of their day-to-day routine is that they believed in the Nazi ideology contrary to recent sentiment and attempts to revise history. For more on that, check out the “Rise and Fall of the Nazi” trilogy by Richard Evans (yes really, names the same as our Rich Evans)

    Another problem with your comment is… Wonder Woman takes place in World War 1. There were German soldiers, but they weren’t the only ones in that conflict.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    That was rather my point. The film is set in WWI (because otherwise it’d been even more of a copy of Captain America), but the trailer has Amazons killing random German soldiers, because the studio doesn’t think of Germans as anything but Nazi-every-villain-ever props.

  • EJ

    I feel like movie theaters were a lot less strict about letting kids into R-rated movies when I was a kid than they are now.

  • EJ

    Get back to your Mom’s basement, you weirdo.

  • cruizerdave

    I was going to go see this movie. The ticket was eight bucks. Then I realized I could buy the original on BluRay for $10 at Walmart. So I did that instead. After I watched it, I went for a walk. I saw a dog.
    It was a good night.

  • kylemz

    I haven’t seen the movie, but this review was as funny and well argued as ever.

  • cruizerdave

    Yeah, the second one was an inferior shadow of the first film. Murray may be a dick sometimes, but he may have been absolutely right for not doing the third GB movie.

  • cruizerdave

    I don’t remember any of that feminist noise about Force Awakens and Fury Road, but they were good, successful movies. This was a crap feast that Sony knew would fail on its own merits.

  • cruizerdave

    Actually, you’re completely wrong. If you’d seen the movie, there are story reasons why it’s set in WWI instead of WWII.

  • Moist

    What STD do you have that makes you think Into Darkness was worse than Insurrection? Late stage syphilis? Probably late stage syphilis.

  • Moist

    I upvoted when I recognized your reference to recognition of a reference!

    Say hello to my chocolate blend!

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    The Jaws line really annoys me. How can you mistake the mayor in Jaws with the mayor character in every single Jaws-knockoff? The Jaws mayor actually realized he was wrong and shut down the beaches. Who do they think he was, the mayor from Jaws 2, or something?

  • EJ

    I have never actually realized that “say hello to my chocolate blend” is a reference until this review. That whole Dunk-a-chino sequence is just so dense.

  • Trent

    If you think STD was better than Insurrection you got the bleeding anal crabs eating through to your cranium .

  • EJ

    If you live in an English-speaking country, the Germans were the bad guys in WWI. Sure, WWI was less morally clear cut than WWII, but Imperial Germany was hardly some force for good.

  • Moist

    Oh yeah, I HAD those but thankfully I got a transfusion of magic blood and it cleared things right up. Magic blood is everything. You can keep your “fountain of middle age” planet.

  • EJ

    I was surprised that they liked the first of the Star Trek reboots. That thing was so vapid that literally a day after seeing it, I couldn’t remember anything about it. And I saw it more or less sober.

  • smogmos68

    I touch a nerve snowflake?  Don’t have a Basement but I do own my property. Have not had a mortgage since 2006. Come up with something original unlike the movie.  I might just read it.

  • Trent

    There you go magic blood ,it cures everything even dead tribbles that are lying around rotting in a sterile lab.Makes perfect sense in a movie where everyone acts like an ass.

  • smogmos68

    Oh how original. That is proply why you love unoriginal.

  • EJ

    The weirdest thing about you people is that there’s almost nothing to you. It’s like you’re just a vague blob of memes and misogyny.

  • Moist

    You know, those bleeding anal crabs simply like what they like. They don’t go on arguing endlessly of the merits of one infected body cavity over another infected body cavity. And while this might be a moment for us to both learn an important lesson from them about tolerance and acceptance, your avowed preference for Insurrection is comically dumb.

  • Trent

    And your preference for ST- the biggest Star Trek Shit show ever put on film is just sad.

  • Moist

    What about The Final Frontier? You think Into Darkness is worse than that one? I mean, Nichelle Nichols really tears it up while doing that feather dance, but everything else in that one was a total Shat show.

  • Charon

    I still fucking love you, Harry S. Plinkett.

    I really, really dislike Paul Feig’s smug, asshole face.

  • smogmos68

    Oh my. How cliche. Since you are playing softball you only get 2 strikes. Your out. Next.

  • Trent

    TFF was without a doubt the worst of the Original Star Trek movies ,but it still had the Original cast and its one good scene ,the McCoy ‘s story of his Father death .For that alone it still tops STD. STD had no good scenes {a 2 second flash of Alice Eve in her undies isn’t a scene } ,or dialogue,apparently no script ,[ it was a well acted, state of the art effects , steamer.

  • Ret Marut

    And I think your monologues are too long.

  • Ret Marut

    Holy jump’n George! Rich in a suit. Go with that Rich, seriously.

  • Moist

    I’d pour some out in memory of DeForest Kelley but I think that wasting alcohol like that would just make his ghost angry.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Paul Feig’s face reminds me of Tim Gunn, for some reason.

  • Trent

    He would probably want you to raise a glass and salute the Enterprise
    “She’ll always bring you home ”
    ………………except after The Search for Spock

  • Cakefarts

    One thing I don’t understand. Why waste the time and effort on analyzing this movie?

  • Moist

    To me he looks like Mel Brooks portraying a fancy lad.

  • Moist

    They got too many death threats over their non-coverage of Transfivers 5. What I don’t understand is why you’re such a misogynist.

  • EJ

    He does look like a younger Tim Gunn. And if Tim Gunn wasn’t effortlessly charming and likable but was a total tryhard.

  • Dan

    Thank you, great analysis and insights in an enteraining way, as always!

  • Sloth

    Cuz YouTube clickbait.

  • Sloth

    Jesus Christ!
    Why don’t you two get a room already.

  • Sloth

    *as sometimes.

  • Moist

    We’re too fat to share a room.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    There was some, but thankfully not nearly as bad as Ghostbusters.

    The GB thing started with people downvoting the terrible trailer, and when Sony saw that attacking the people downvoting generated free publicity, they doubled and tripled down on it, until they had Feig out there insulting people on the internet.

    TFA and Fury Road thankfully never got farther than some feminist media-types whining about some random blog post criticizing how much screen time Furiosa had, or what a Mary Sue character “Rey” was. (I think there was also an attempt to claim some people were going to boycott TFA because it had a black stormtrooper, but that bit of fake marketing never took off).

    There seemed to be a bit more of an effort to kick-start a “sexists hate Wonder Woman” thing with that film, but it too was drowned out when the film proved strong enough to not need that artificial viewer-bait.

    I think GB got so bad because, as you said, Sony knew the film was dreck and would fail on its own. I find it all to be a very transparent marketing ploy and just get annoyed with it. Unfortunately, it’s easy to pull off as Sony proved, and probably does work to a certain extent, so I fully expect to see more of this with future films.

  • Trent

    Can’t your already in it with your bleeding anal crabs with late stage syphilis.

  • EJ

    Yeah but it was good. I’m kinda with you that it never totally clicked with me but it was more just a matter of personal taste, rather than it not being well done.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Insurrection? I thought STID was a remake of Nemesis?

  • EJ

    There definitely was some real nerd rage when it was reported that Eve Ensler consulted on Fury Road, and when George Miller described the story as “feminist.” Fury Road is actually a good example of a movie with solid feminist themes that came naturally out of the situation and characters, rather than being shoehorned in.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    I’d argue that TMP was worse than TFF, if only because TFF was a Star Trek film, whereas TMP barely had the characters in it (as it was mostly made up of characters meant for the Star Trek reboot series that never happened), and those that did get decent screen time, like Kirk, didn’t act like themselves from the show.

    It’s not necessarily a bad sci-fi film, but it has almost none of the Kirk, Spock, McCoy dynamic that makes Star Trek what it is.

  • Moist

    Yar, I remember the MRAs boycotting Fury Road so that when it opened it did worse than macho favorite Pitch Perfect 2.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    They also remade it in 1996, as the film “Barbwire”, set in the distant future year of 2017 during the second Civil War, starring Jango Fett and Pamela Anderson’s implants.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Crap, you’re right; he’s President Skroob.

  • Moist

    I was thinking the mayor of Blazing Saddles only, you know, not as interested in boobies.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Sony is so desperate for any publicity for the film, they won’t file a DMCA?

  • EJ

    Barb Wire does teach a valuable lesson, in that, if there’s nudity during the opening credits, the movie is going to suck. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a movie that violates this rule.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Mayor Olsen Johnson? Not really seeing it myself.

    Governor William J. Le Petomane, on the otherhand….

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    A few Bond films probably break that rule, but it’s “artistic” nudity.

  • Moist

    Also: President Skroob? Brooks just used his name spelled backwards-ish? How has he not been given the “hardest working man in showbusiness” epithet?

  • EJ

    Fair enough.

  • Hank_Henshaw

    Using a commercial slogan as a lazy joke was already done in Ghostbusters II.

    “There’s always room for Jell-O.”

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Can’t talk. Clickbaitin’.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    He looks like Mark Gatiss, but more rubber-faced and with considerably less talent.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The MRAs are waiting for the CGI Pepe the Frog movie. All those sorry sad Franz Liebkind cosplayers. I’d pity them if I could muster the empathy to feel emotions for human toxic waste. But I can’t.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    WW I was caused by a dynastic spat and European civilization basically annihilated itself. After the Great War, it was hard to take the boast of “white superiority” with any degree of seriousness, since they blew the shit out of each other. The oppressed colonial peoples uttered a collective, “What the fuck? Seriously?”

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Fuck movies!

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    I can see that.

    Feig’s got one of those faces that keeps making me think I’ve seen him somewhere before, in a less irritating form.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Buddy Cole is far more macho than anyone in the alt-right. He also he a better hairstylist than Richard “Glass Jaw” Spencer.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Mark Gatiss at least rebooted Sherlock Holmes with a bit of panache, unlike the diarrhea-windmill of Ghostbusters (2016).

  • Moist

    So should we be worried that the members of Franz Ferdinand will get a time machine or do we need to make sure that that happens?

    Is it too soon to make jokes about the band Franz Ferdinand or too late?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The world needs more Annie Potts.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Man, Arctic Monkeys. So indie, amirite, guys? Guys? Wait, where are you going?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Sounds like a dream date with Ivanka Trump!
    **slide whistle**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    YouTube comments make me want to sterilize the human race.

  • Moist

    Please, Jesus, cleanse the world with radioactive fire already.

  • Sloth

    Yeah… because Disqus comments are soooooo much bettar!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Reading YouTube comments again? Or lurking in the Stygian miasma of Breitbart?

  • Moist

    Regretting my failure to get aboard the Arctic Monkeys bandwagon.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Considerably. Far less Lovecraftian, since reading YouTube comments will drive one to the brink of insanity. And the SJW vs. alt-right verbal sparring makes me seriously consider the benefits of abolishing the right to free speech.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    How would they reach the pedals?
    **slide whistle**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Before or after he fornicates with it?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Or as guest panelists on Collider.

  • Moist

    Someone sold you a wagon that had pedals on it?

  • Sloth

    Before AND after.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Did you see how that horse was dressed?

  • Sloth

    Insty will beat off literally anything.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    I do get annoyed with the 90-lb model action woman cliche. I think that started with The Fifth Element. It sort of worked there, and in most films (Resident Evil, Ultraviolet, Underworld, Aeon Flux, etc) there’s some sort of in-universe reasoning behind how a super-model can fight armored men by the hundred and win easily.

    But then you have flicks like the Total Recall remake, and pretty much any non-sci-fi action film, where a very skinny woman can fight like she’s a superhero without injury. It’s the exact opposite of the John McClane trope.

    And it really takes me out of the film. At least Arnold and Stallone looked superhuman in their 80’s action flicks; I can’t take Jessica Biel seriously when she’s kicking vampires and landing a 20-foot fall like it’s nothing.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Arctic monkeys are driving it. Shit just weird, yo!

  • Sloth

    I’m considering stopping with the comments altogether and reverting to writing letters.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Wouldn’t hurt. Be the change you want to be in the world, to paraphrase General George S. Patton.

  • Sloth

    I just want everyone to nap more and be less angry all the time.

  • kamiller42

    stop talking. Stop talking. Stop Talking. STOP TALKING.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    There’s weed and jam bands for that.

  • Sloth

    *continues talking*

  • Sloth

    <— Phish phan
    It works for me.
    But how do I get the rest of the planet on board?

  • EJ

    You know when Iggy Pop is telling the world to calm down, things are getting too heated. Or Iggy Pop just got old.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    With my new device. I call it … The Allan Parsons Project.
    **dramatic sting**

  • EJ

    Alan Partridge?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Parisian Night Suits, man!

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    I blame twitter. The character limit forces people to turn all statements into pithy bits of sarcasm. Too much of that hollows you out inside.

    We need a negative-version of twitter, where every post HAS to have 10,000 characters, minimum, to off-set the effects of normal twitter and bring balance to the Internet.

  • Sloth

    I don’t think our President is capable of 10,000 characters.

  • MaxDevonshire

    You’re way out on a limb on so many levels.

    First off? See Wonder Woman. Illegally download it for all I care if you don’t want WB/DC to get your money. Just watch it.
    I say that because while the story is told from the point of view of a hero on the Allied side? The Germans are, at worst, portrayed as just slightly worse than the Allies. Allied leadership is made out to be either uncaring or incompetent and the film makes it very clear that both sides have their heroes, villains, and everyday people trying to make the best out of a crappy situation.
    You assumed that the film would try to paint the Imperial German Army from WWI as “Nazis,” and they don’t. The moral is “all of mankind has the capacity for both good and evil, and neither side is innocent here.” A lot of Diana’s journey is learning that the Allies aren’t the “good guys,” just one side of an ugly war.
    So your assertion that “Hollywood thinks Germany=Nazi” is flawed, and doesn’t hold up here.

    Now as far as creating fake controversy to drive up ticket sales? The CERTAINLY happened with Ghostbusters. It’s been confirmed Sony deleted regular negative comments on the trailer’s YT page but left the misogynist comments to create a false narrative. I’m pretty sure it’s also been confirmed Sony paid a few of those reviewers/pop culture sites to publish the “everyone who doesn’t like this hates women” articles. So as far as Ghostbusters 2016 goes? You’re on the money.

    Fury Road, The Force Awakens, and Wonder Woman though? Sorry. This is the first I’ve heard of ANYONE claiming there was an attempt to manufacture controversy to boost those films’ ticket sales.
    Sure, you had isolated pockets of MRAs or racists bitching here or there about them but no one took them seriously. No one was driven to see these movies because of them.

    Hell, the most common thing I heard about both TFA and Fury Road was that both had female action heroes whose involvement felt natural to the story because the writing was strong and the filmmakers didn’t draw attention to it.
    Compare that to Ghostbusters 2016 where Sony tried to manufacture outrage by drawing all of the attention to the female leads and then claiming everyone who disagreed hated women.

    So while you’re dead on about Sony trying to manufacture controversy to trick gullible SJWs into seeing their shitty Ghostbusters remake? I’ve seen no evidence studios tried that with TFA, FR, or WW.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Hey! That’s offensive to blobs! Show some respect!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    No, that’s his support staff. Don’t you remember him fronting the classic 90s band 10,000 Maniacs?

  • EJ

    That would be a good thing. Whiskey Jack I second your notion of an anti-twitter where every post has to be a massive, ponderous think piece.

  • Sloth

    Natalie Imbruglia is our President?!

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    How did I never pick up on that? I always assumed it was a Screw-ball or Screw-you politician joke.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    For two seasons. The 3rd and 4th seasons of Sherlock were… disappointing. Not exactly Dexter 5th Season levels of disappointing, but nothing like the first two.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    That was before she was in The Force Awakens.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Mel Brooks has a comedic mind on a whole ‘nother level, man.

  • MaxDevonshire

    Ghostbusters 2 was sad, but it at least had its moments and had a bit of the spark the first one had (thanks to the same people being involved).
    Ghostbusters 2016 is devoid of all charm, wit, or merit.

  • Sloth

    I only watch movies that take place on planet Earth.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    True. The super-long hiatus between seasons, creating fan withdrawal, also doesn’t help when the seasons aren’t super-awesome.

  • DoobzMcgee

    …dont do it…. save yourself

  • MaxDevonshire

    I think the longing for a “Ghostbusters 3” comes from the belief that had it happened? This movie never would have been made.

  • EJ

    That must have been wild if you were some some random Indian or African circa 1918. “Wait, our all-powerful overlords just blew each other up because one guy got murdered?”

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I wanted to see Wonder Woman because Chris Pine was in it!

  • MaxDevonshire

    Exactly. I was halfway through and noticed that not once did Plinkett even mention the decision to go with a female cast. It was brilliant.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Especially if you were a Vietnamese cooking school student named Ho Chi Minh.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    We don’t need misogynistic humor from Plinkett. We have a President to pick up the slack with that task.

  • DoobzMcgee

    Because Mr. Plinkett gives great anal-assisess

  • Pop Culture Reference

    With Kevin Hart as Rick and The Rock as Captain Louis Renault. Luckily, it will simply be folded into the Fast and Furious Cinematic Universe. It will be directed by Ridley Scott from his own screenplay, so expect xenomorphs, Engineers, and Replicants. My God, it’ll be beautiful.

  • Fartastic

    The last episode of Sherlock was the worst thing since the previous two episodes. Season 4 couldn’t have been less entertaining if they tried.

  • EJ

    So, serious question: “proply” and the incorrect use of “your” – are those references to memes you people like, or are they just part of your general illiteracy?

  • Jim Moore

    “Oh man, oh man, do I hate them fancy lads!”

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Still better than “Boyhood.”

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “Yes. Have some.”

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Hooray! Tinkerbell gets to live!

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    I wonder if there is some weird study that proves women are more attracted to bright colors, like female birds get hot and bothered by colorful plumage. There has to be some reasoning behind the saturation levels of this film, why it’s all so darn brightly colored it makes me nauseous to stare at.

    It’s like what a casino would look like, if you made the players ad-lib incessantly during a celebrity poker tournament. All bright lights, loud noise, and flat jokes from b-list actors.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “All bright lights, loud noise, and flat jokes from b-list actors.”

    Why do you think Republicans voted for Reagan … twice?

  • EJ

    Didn’t Uncle Ho help us fight the Japs in WWII? One thing US history has proven, there is absolutely no downside in the concept of “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “I can’t go on. I’ll go on.” — Nobel Laureate author Samuel Adams.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I know. It’s why we’re President Saddam Hussein is our eternal ally in the war against evil awful Iran. Our eternal allies in Eastasia will beat those evil men in Oceania some day. Is it time for the Two Minute Hate already?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Julianne Moore bumping into doors. Classic!

  • EJ

    Oh, you’re a Taliban leader fighting the Soviets? Have some missile launchers, Mr.Bin Ladin! We’re confident you’ll love us forever and never turn against us!

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    I think they realized too late that they made a mistake when they killed Moriarty, and couldn’t think up a realistic way to bring him back. But also couldn’t think up a decent villain to replace him, so were stuck spinning their heels for 7 episodes.

    On the plus side, the long hiatus between seasons sent me searching for other Sherlock shows and I found all of Jeremy Brett’s Sherlock show on Youtube. I actually prefer his version to probably any other.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    **considers returning the RLM-branded charred cat-shaped fleshlight**

    It did seem rather … um … “worn in.”

  • Pop Culture Reference

    And don’t forget those wacky Nazis. Been in the SS and Gestapo? Water under the bridge, so long as you help us fight the Soviets and assist us in building rockets.

  • EJ

    Wait, the Soviets are our enemies? Haven’t we spent the last four years sending them supplies and weapons to fight the Nazis?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I only saw the first episode of Season 4. With no Moriarty there’s nothing to sink their teeth into. I heard the Jeremy Brett version was good, but I also like the new update. Mainly because I believe adaptation should let the director and screenwriter engage in something more than acting like glorified stenographers. Literalism can get boring.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Yeah, but these are the good Na– The Civil Rights movement is a Commu– Hold on a second.
    **head explodes like that one scene in Scanners**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Artistic. Not artistic. Either way, it doesn’t impinge on the inherent fappability of said cinematic vehicles.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Ever see “Without A Clue” from ’88? Very different take on Sherlock, since it’s a parody, but I quite enjoyed it.

  • Slograman

    During.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I loved Janosz! Peter McNicol was also great in Addams Family Values. He’s infinitely quotable. And he’s a hilariously inept minion.

  • EJ

    Not saying that in my younger days I never cranked one out to the credits sequence of Barb Wire. It is, however, not a great film.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    No. I’ll have to check it out. I’m also curious about “Elementary,” especially since it follows the standard US TV series schedule. None of this 4-episode miniseries tomfoolery.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Well, it’s no Mad Foxes.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Those few short clips during the review made me nauseous. I think I’ve seen enough of Ghurlbusters for a lifetime.

  • Bob Saget

  • Trent

    I would counter TMP was no doubt boring ,and lacking the original trio dynamic ,although there were a few hints of it Mccoy being pissed about his recall ect, .but it had state of the art effects ,the joy of seeing the original cast come back ,and the incredible redesign of the Enterprise .I always thought The whole Kirk not acting like himself stuff was suppose to be part of the I’m back but this is ” totally new Enterprise ” The Story /Direction hurt it for sure ,but it is still a better Star Trek film then STD.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Wasn’t the whole selling point of Children of Men seeing her catch Clive Owen’s balls in her mouth?

  • EJ

    I think it’s actually kind of the reverse. In my mis-spent youth I worked in advertising, and it was pretty well understood that young men responded to loud, primary colors (look at any car magazine if you don’t believe me), young women preferred pastels, and older people of both genders gravitated toward earth tones.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    I’ve only seen one episode of Elementary and I can’t really remember it. I do know I didn’t instantly hate it, or anything, so it’s not a CSI clone at least.

    Given the 37 minute episode length, I’d be interested if they keep to the old stories, or try to make their own new mysteries entirely. Most of the old stories are big enough you could possibly spread them across most of a season as a background story arc.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Space Cop 2: Space Business Cop

  • Pop Culture Reference

    You mean Piss Boy, from History of the World? He can reprise the role when Hollywood remakes Mad Foxes starring Kevin Hart and The Rock.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Odd, since women generally see more colors than men. Or more shades of colors, anyway.

    Still, it’s an odd choice for a film. Really does remind me of that horrible Charlie and the Chocolate Factory remake, like Plinkett says. Way too bright, gives a very plastic sheen to everything. I wonder if maybe they thought the CGI fit in better with brighter colors.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Perhaps the plastic sheen on everything was because Paul Feig told his cinematographer to use the Krispy Kreme Filter on the lens?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Is that different from a Cockwaffle?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I’m still waiting for my Zapped! Extended Cinematic Universe.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    You’re confusing him with Steve Bannon.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    But Paul Feig does wear a nice suit though.

  • EJ

    Women on average having more sensitive color vision was actually part of the reasoning. The more you can distinguish between colors, the less drastic color contrast needs to be.

    Also there are cultural and even linguistic aspects to color perception, which is a whole other fascinating subject.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Ya know, “amazing” just isn’t used enough as a descriptor these days.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Wait, those were women? My God, I thought they were just unfunny actors. This makes so much more sense now.

    Fat, slobby or geeky men are funny; fat, slobby or geeky women are just sad. Funny women are hot and have a Brooklyn accent, and let their dad, Jerry Stiller, live in the basement. No wonder this film flopped.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    America is truly a City on a Hill.*

    *Poop Emoji is on aforementioned hill.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I couldn’t take Jessica Biel when she was on Seventh Heaven.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    No. Because I don’t care what you think, eunuch.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Hey, don’t compare alt-right smegma goblins with contrarian hipsters. That’s just cruel. No one should be compared to contrarian hipsters.
    **goes back to drinking a PBR ironically at Williamsburg gastropub**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Unoriginal, but grammatically correct, you illiterate eunuch.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    All kidding aside, whoever developed that giant jizz-cannon thing at the end there could make a killing setting up the right pornsite. There has to be at least five separate fetishes that that cannon fulfills.

    Never mind these unnecessary remakes, there’s gold in them there jizz-cannon moneyshots!

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    And frankly, I have no idea why. Not that I hate the second film, but it’s pretty obvious they weren’t going to let Aykroyd go whole-hog down the rabbit hole of his weird Ghostbusters universe, and they basically had no story left for even a sequel. Why pretend that a third film would’ve been anything better than another rehash of the first?

    Truth is, we probably all owe Murray a round of thanks for keeping the original cast from doing a third film and further damaging our memory of the first. This remake only seems to make people appreciate the first (and even second) film more.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    But I bet you would have if you’d had the chance!

    ~BaDumChing!~

  • EJ

    But did your dad make it? We’re all wondering…

  • DRP103

    You shouldn’t catch lightning in a bottle. Ghostbusters caught lightning in a bottle once. Once.

  • instant relief

    I only catch AIDS in my bottle.

  • MichaelKz

    Remember that urban legend about creep placing AIDS infected needles inside the coin returns of pay phones?

  • instant relief

    Yeah, that was me.

  • Zek

    This is not the Dunkirk Half in the bag I requested

  • Robotpals

    They couldn’t think of a realistic way to bring Moriarty back?!? And how they unkilled Sherlock was realistic? How about they never even found a body, and the suicide was faked. There. Give me Moffatt’s money. Like everyone, I kept expecting the next episode to set everything right, but then the show ended, and we realized it was a rotten mess the whole time. Except for that very first episode, of course.

  • supercrotchinator

    Jeremy Brett is the best Sherlock. I love that series.

  • Trent

    I would counter TMP was no doubt boring ,and lacking the original trio dynamic ,although there were a few hints of it Mccoy being pissed about his recall ect, .but it had state of the art effects ,the joy of seeing the original cast come back ,and the incredible redesign of the Enterprise .I always thought The whole Kirk not acting like himself stuff was suppose to be part of the I’m back but this is a ” totally new Enterprise ” The Story /Direction hurt it for sure ,but it is still a better Star Trek film then STD.

  • Urdus

    “Dornkirk”…

  • Dragonknightleader

    As dense as a sledgehammer.

  • Dragonknightleader

    No, I don’t think he’s egomanicial like that. I think a lot of his personality is wrapped up with wanting female approval. I know he’s gay, but he identifies with the feminine aesthetic and definitely doesn’t understand men’s thought patterns (which is a core aspect of the original). It would certainly explain his subservience to Amy Pascal or his inability to tell his actors to portray characters.

  • BCFC25

    Glad this piece of shit got the Plinkett treatment!

  • Dragonknightleader

    “Heaven is in New Jersey?” What a twist!

  • Spoiled Ants

    Whatever you had in mind, the Japanese probably doubled-down on it.

  • Spoiled Ants

    I don’t really care about Ghostbusters, never understood the hype/hate for that particular movie. From the clips I’ve seen, it looks like the typical mediocre comedy trash that Hollywood/SNL has been churning out for decades.

    But the review makes some pretty good points that go beyond the failings of this movie in particular. I think Mike wanted comment on the misguided approach that big studios have on comedy films in general. So I see this review less as a Plinkett review and more as a companion piece to the Jack & Jill review (which this review references quite a lot).

  • Good call. Casablanca is on my “Remake and I’m done” list as well as a few others (Gone With The Wind, Citizen Kane, Big, and Back to the Future… because even the creators never wanted a remake of BttF). Very rarely is a remake ever good or better than the original. One of the few exceptions, for me, is Sabrina, which I thought had a very lovely remake. But that was back in the 90s before the remake bandwagon really got going…

  • Yeah, that’s a good point. I live in Japan so I didn’t quite see all the talk show appearances and whatnot the crew did to push the point that this was a feminist movie, but the glimpses I saw were pretty annoying. Wonder Woman came in and now people are like “Ghostbusters remake, what? Was that a thing?”

    I still haven’t seen Wonder Woman (finally comes to Japan later this month I think) but I’ll be first in line to see it. I’m pretty sure I’m going to love it and I’m happy to see WB finally get a DC movie right. I like the DC Universe a bit more than the Marvel universe and I was so afraid they would ruin one of their best creations, but hearing friends and even the HitB crew praise it has given me hope, haha.

  • Bleurgh

    The alt-right are the biggest bunch of snowflake crybaby hypocrits in the world. Point out one of Trumps failures or lies and watch them all wet themselves and get so worked up they pass out. It’s hilarious.

  • Sloth

    I thought he was a brewer.

  • Sloth

    No, I’m not.
    Insty is Steve Bannon.

  • Boldizar

    They didn’t really like the good Nolan movies, so I bet they loved Dunkirk.

  • Sloth

    There’s no such thing as a “good Nolan movie”

  • Boldizar

    Rick’s will only serve Coca-Cola. Shit, we can just make it a McDonalds.

  • Boldizar

    That seems to be common sentiment with the RLM commentariat, but that is gravely mistaken. The same people that say this think Arrival was a good movie.

  • Sloth

    Nolan is the bastard love child of Michael Bay and Lars Von Trier. He makes over-loud, super-depressing popkern movies and the critics laud him as a genius. Sloth is not falling for it.

    And Arrival is one of Charlie Sheen’s best movie-films, demmit!

  • Boldizar

    Comparing him to Bay? That is just not a fit. Bay makes big, loud, stupid movies with CGI shit all over the place. Have you seen a Nolan movie? It isn’t about any of that. Instead it is about the plot and characters. All the effects or special sets are secondary. Bay would never be smart enough to come up with Inception, or to pull it off.

    Dunkirk I can give you because that was a pile of shit with no point or story. The title says it all and the movie just shows crap happening for 90min. Sound design is great, visuals look good, but that is it.

    I also think the Dark Knight Rises has serious time lapse issues, where the passage of time is not translated to the audience and it is really jarring. One thing I liked about Interstellar was that he fixed that issue.

  • Boldizar

    I looked up Von Trier because I have heard the name but I have not seen any of those films.

  • Sloth

    He makes uber-depressing arthouse movies.
    Nolan does the same thing but for the popkern-munching masses. Aren’t popkern movies sposed to be fun?

  • Sloth

    The ONLY decent movie Nolan has made (Insomnia) is just a remake of a far superior film.
    The rest of his stuff relies on gimmicks (Memento), explosions and special effekts (The Batmans), and needlessly convoluted nonsensery (Inception) to trick audiences into “enjoying” his movies. He has more in common with a huckster street magician than he does with the great filmmakers he’s often compared to.

  • I’d been losing faith in the series ever since the episode on the rooftop. That show thinks it’s a lot smarter than it actually is.

  • EJ

    You’d think they’d be happy, what with their side winning politically right now. But no, still boiling with rage, as always. It’s like anger is all they have.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    They do requests?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Jizz-cannons are how we’re going to defeat ISIS, right?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    No, he played for the Cubs.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    It really makes you appreciate the comedic genius of Bruce Vilanch.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Remember when DeNiro and Pacino were in “Heat”? Now … this? It’s like Pacino an DeNiro are in a foot race to determine who will act in the bigger piece of cinematic shit.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    FORM FOLLOWS FUNCTION!!!!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    And Sabrina the Teenage Witch became a GOP sock puppet who starred in God’s Not Dead 2: The Deadening.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    No, you’re thinking of Kelsey Grammer. Frasier was a spin-off of MASH. Jeez, you kids. Get your facts straight.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Yes, because serial killer Harry S Plinkett is worried about offending people? These are Plinkett Reviews, not an episode of All Things Considered on NPR. Although it would be rad if Plinkett got Ira Glass to co-host a Plinkett Review.

  • Fartastic

    Yep, it was never outright smart. E.g. the very first episode didn’t really resolve the murderer’s way of killing which appeared to be, and must have been, based on pure chance. Yet I really liked seasons 1 and 2 for the good acting, the novelty of Holmes’ mind powers, cool visual gimmicks, and the dynamic bickering and banter between Holmes and Watson. From season 3 on, the series took itself much too serious, and overestimated the audiences emotional involvement in the characters’ (who are imo caricatures) fate. And boy oh boy, was season 4 bad. I watched it two weeks ago and still can’t believe how bad the last episode was. It wasn’t “Sherlock” anymore, it was like mediocre fantasy/horror fan fiction. Man, was it bad, so very very bad.

  • EJ

    I can see him settling into being the next Brett Rattner – not respected critically but a go-to guy when you need someone to reliably churn out hollywood product without going over budget or pissing anyone off.

  • EJ

    Not gonna lie – I would watch the hell out of this movie.

  • EJ

    McDonald’s serves booze in Europe.

  • You basically summed up my feelings on the show better than I could. The only thing I enjoyed out of the newer seasons was the idea of Sherlock Holmes being anchored by addiction – making him more of an outsider than he was before. Now – I’ve never read any Sherlock books I should note before I carry on – but my impression of Sherlock was always that he was sort of just like your average for-hire P.I. at first glance who happened to be super fucking good at his job. In the show however I was somewhat taken aback at how Sherlock right after doing one or two cases all of a sudden is famous – was that right after the first episode? It’s been awhile. To my recollection, though, the ramp-up was far too quick – it was like “Here’s Sherlock Holmes, this brilliant outsider” – and then a couple episodes later he’s like a famous superdetective who is very comfortable in his social position. What annoyed me about it was that I felt it was urging us, as an audience, to identify with, well – his audience. The people in the world of Sherlock were our vessel in a way – and it all felt a bit tacky to me. Sherlock became “that guy” – cause you know! Everyone knows him! Including us! It’s a point of perspective that I felt made Sherlock as a character less interesting. Not until the whole drug addiction thing was there any sign at all of him cracking under the weight of his namesake. He was just a supercool, super-genius through and through. But yeah, regardless of that upturn in his character development, the tone the show took on after season 2 was – as you said – far too serious for its own good. It tried to take too many jabs, assuming far too much of our emotional attachment to the characters, almost becoming a little too soap opera-ey. I would have enjoyed the idea of him being a drug addict more if it was just treated as a thing that just kinda happened, but it turned out to be one of many extra excuses to make the show more brooding.

  • Andy James

    You say that, but then she’s in “Who’s Harry Crumb?” and you wonder if we really need more Annie Potts after all.

  • EJ

    Interstellar was good. Not by any means perfect; a lot of it in fact was pretty dumb, but the characters and the visuals saved it.

  • Brett Burrett

    Concise and to the point, and like the best of Plinkett’s reviews, offers insight and angles you haven’t thought about before. Good job guys

  • EJ

    There are plenty of good sci-fi action-comedies out there – Buckaroo Banzai, Repo Man, Men in Black, Galaxy Quest, etc., etc. But an actual good sequel to Ghostbusters would be difficult.

  • Brett Burrett

    I’d pull out the old ‘subjectivity’ argument, but everybody knows that’s the truth anyway. Arguing like this shit is objective fact is what keeps it interesting.

  • EJ

    Hell, at least Franz Liebkind was open about his admiration of Nazism. These schmucks will write tedious, 1000 word denials of having anything to do with fascism, and then flash Hitler salutes at their little conventions when they think nobody is looking.

  • Sloth

    Perhaps.
    I gave up on Nolan before Interstellar.
    So I haven’t seen and I don’t plan to.
    I gave the guy plenty of chances and he always disappointed.
    There’s too much movies/tv to waste time on garbage.

  • EJ

    It’s not a must-see or anything. A lot of people don’t like it and I can understand why. I initially was going to skip Dunkirk just because I’m in general pretty “meh” on Nolan, but I gave in to the hype and watched it and I’m glad I did. It’s the first movie he’s made where his style actual works for the movie, rather than against it.

  • EJ

    I’ve never really thought of Plinkett as a character, and I don’t think the RLM guys have thought about it much either. Heck, they’re not even clear whether he lives in Milwaukee or New Jersey.

  • Strelnikov

    Lars Trier (the “von” he tacked on in film school) only had one cool movie and that was Europa, aka Zentropa….which came out in 1991.

  • Strelnikov

    One of the YouTube commenters wrote this massive brick contesting Plinkett’s claim that Bill Murray had killed Ghostbusters III, but I can’t find it….pretty much he claims that Dan Aykroyd was trying to get anything off the ground during the 1990s and Murray shot all of it down (he wasn’t wild about Ghostbusters II), then this project came along and Sony somehow got Murray in a legal bind so he had to appear in it, and not shit-talk the film on the talkshows when the film came out.

  • Sloth

    Hmm.

  • Magnus Ironfist

    I can’t stop repeating “Remember Scarface?” out loud… It’s like I’ve developed Tourette’s—I can’t control it!

  • Strelnikov

    Also Sony Pictures is a glorious mess right now and might be defunct shortly, so Mike wanted to get his licks in before we all start talking about Sony like we do about Golan-Globus or Monogram Pictures, i.e. in the past tense.

  • Magnus Ironfist

    Remember Scarface?

  • Strelnikov

    That flick is amazing because of all the color shifts, fore-projection, back-projection, model shot tricks they did, that and they shot a lot of the film in the more industrial, stuck in the 1940s parts of Poland helped with the surreal realism of 1945 Germany.

  • jic1

    That would seem to confirm the claim, not contest it.

  • MichaelKz

    Exploding female goats and sheep will be how we kill ISIS.

  • Moist

    “Dunkirk?” I could have sworn you said “Dunkaccino!”

  • jic1

    Sherlock has the sort of writing that you call ‘clever’ as an insult.

  • Sloth

    Hmm.

  • EJ

    There’s a really good Every Frame a Painting episode where Tony contrasts Edgar Wright’s use of precisely timed visual humor to most modern comedies which are largely just medium shots of actors talking.

  • James Markowitz

    I am posting this because this review is emblematic of why I am beginning to not look foreward to Redlettermedia videos any more. It’s a combination of Mike’s intellectual input beginning to degrade, and Rich Evans’ not-so-intellectual insights beginning to dominate. I recognize Rich’s extensive contributions due to listening to the Pre Rec videos, and have become very familiar with his opinions on this subject.

    The main, and not very convincing, thrust of this video seems to be that, because Rich Evans (and possibly Mike) saw Ghostbusters when they were 8 to 12 years old, then it is a perfect movie, a flawless comedy, and that it is sacrilege to every remake it. Also, if this remake differs in any way from the original, it is WRONG.

    First, I take issue with this as being a flawless comedy masterpiece. I saw it when I was 19, with my little cousin who was maybe 12. I thought it was an offensive and annoying piece of noisy garbage, and my little cousin loved it. But let me tell you why I hated it. It did NOT have amazing characters, as this video claims … the ghostbuster team characters were all variations of deadpan too-cool-for-school shlubs, even Janice, who was deadpan too cool for school as well. Are you sure you aren’t confusing the original movie’s characters with the characters in the animated cartoon “The Real Ghostbusters” which actually took the trouble to make the characters truly different from eachother? Bill Murray’s character stood out from the rest by being a crude, rapey stalker, The only character who had any spirit to her, Sigourney Weaver’s character, was lobotomized by the script so she would submit to Bill Murray’s crude asshole character, who she inexplicably finds charming when he stalks her to a music recital and insults her boyfriend. Why is it classic comedy? Because 8 to 12 year olds find rudeness and cursing funny? Yeah, Ok.

    I’m truly unconvinced by this video’s arguments against the remake. Almost every point insists that the original’s plot, characters, focus, are amazingly wonderful and that the remake sins by doing things differently, and focusing on different things. But that’s to the remake’s credit! They arleady did an uncreative retread of Ghostbusters with Ghostbusters II .. why not appreciate that we weren’t being served up point for point rehashes of everything? The improvs, the distinctly DIFFERENT character types … these should be celebrated, not excoriated just because autistic Rich Evans, who grew up on video games and movies as a substitute for parenting, has a rage-on because he thinks his childhood is being raped. After all the outrage this site has aimed at the remakes marketing painting bad reaction to the remake as misogynistic, I have come to the conclusion, after actually seeing the remake and finding it farily amiable, and most of the performances funny, that misogyny may in fact play a role here.

    And let me express my extreme befuddlement at this analysis’s lionization of the black lady’s performance as the only funny one in the film. The other characters may have been more subtle, but they were funnier than her loud shouting. Who would find that the BEST performance, the best character? I’m beginning to think that RLM’s increasing reliance on alcholol to lubricate their Best of the Worst and Half in the Bag reviews are beginning to affect their critical reasoning. Did Mike see the ghostbusters remake drunk? Did he genuinely watch the extended blu-ray drunk? A drunk would find her the funniest thing in the movie because he loud shouting is the only thing that would make it through an alcoholic haze.

    And let me express a belated fury at the Half in the Bag review of Ghostbusters. 10 minutes at most of rational discussion before the OH SO FUNNY unboxing of an actual bottle of vodka, and then 90 percent of the video was spent in rambling drunkenness, not really saved by whoever had to edit into something coherent. I had been looking forward to the review, and got drunken sloppiness instead, and now you put up a video trying to rationalize the drunken insights that you originally came up with? I love(d) RLM and want to keep loving it, but if it become drunky central, where the joke is “oh my god, how bad movies are, they make me drink”, I’m going to stop visiting. Rich Evans is the only non-drinker, and he’s a funny character because he has such poor control over his put-upon-geek rageaholic opinions, but he can’t carry the site by himself, if Mike’s intelligence isn’t guiding the ship. If Mike is insistent on becoming an alcoholic (I do NOT buy that it’s just a comedy bit any more) than this site will sadly become a site I no longer visit.

  • disqus_9rTOWGyP8d

    I’m going to get some Papa Johns and lube up my R5-D4 with garlic dipping sauce.

  • Strelnikov

    Well the idea was that this guy claimed Murray wasn’t doing this stuff to be a dick, he just didn’t find the scripts being tossed around good enough. I really wish I had made a screenshot of that.

  • kensu

    To really twist the knife they needed to dust off the practice from the early reviews of showing how bad movies did something right that they got wrong (like The Last Starfighter and The Garbage-Pail Kids Movie.) They could’ve picked two good examples from Ghostbusters II. For instance the subway scene shows how to use good banter to lighten the mood as a build-up to a scare; especially since they could compare it to that underground scene in the 2016 movie where they can’t shut up. Also the scene where Yanish is talking to the painting would be an example of how a babbling character who tends to get sidetracked can be funny, but how it would have been completely ruined if Max Van Sydow had started ad-libbing instead of delivering his heavily scripted speech.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Mr. Plinkett should be spending his time more on Jay and their impending nuptials and less on making reviews.

    Is this joke canon? Asking for a friend.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Max Von Sydow was the best part of Strange Brew.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Too bad couldn’t put Trump in a legal bind. At least it would make it less likely he tweets something and triggers a nuclear apocalypse.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I thought Steven Soderbergh directed that?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “You know what I like about faster than light travel, girls keep aging and I stay the same age.” — Matthew McC.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I love that Jim Croce song.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The best part of the movie “Bad Taste” was the exploding sheep.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Anal cysts? I have one right now!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    See also: Wing, The West; and Vampire Slayer, Buffy the.

  • Moist

    Go ahead and waste your life as a spectator. Me, I’m-a write my own manifesto, only it’ll have cool shit in it like genetically engineered super soldiers and talking hand grenades.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    That’s because alt-right edgelords are subhuman cowards who could lose in a fight against Oscar Wilde. And anyone parroting that “white victimhood” hooey deserved a canoe panel to the cranium. Remember Munich. Instead of appeasement, continuous carpet-bombing.

    Or a bowling ball, whatever works, dude.

    Donny: Are these the Nazis, Walter?

    Walter Sobchak: No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there’s nothing to be afraid of.

    Nihilist: Ve don’t care. Ve still vant ze money, Lebowski, or ve fuck you ups.

    Walter Sobchak: Fuck you. Fuck the three of you.

    The Dude: Hey, cool it Walter.

    Walter Sobchak: No, without a hostage, there is no ransom. That’s what ransom is. Those are the fucking rules.

    Nihilist #2: His girlfriend gave up her toe!

    Nihilist #3: She though we’d be getting million dollars!

    Nihilist #2: Iss not fair!

    Walter Sobchak: Fair! WHO’S THE FUCKING NIHILIST HERE! WHAT ARE YOU, A BUNCH OF FUCKING CRYBABIES?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    If I wanted something hacky and regurgitated, I’d ask Alicia Silverstone to pre-chew my food for me.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Wasn’t that a scene in Boogie Nights?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Cocaine?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    [looks at camera] I think, deep down, we’re all Steve Bannon.

    **The More You Know theme plays**

  • Strelnikov

    Agnieszka Holland directed Europa, Europa 1990.

    Soderbergh gave us Schizopolis in 1996.

  • EJ

    Matthew McC, MILF hunter.

  • Uncle Dan

    Some months ago a friend said we should watch the movie out of curiousity. I’m pretty sure we didn’t laugh the entire time. We were mostly just puzzled at the attempts to be funny.

    I do like how RLM, or at least Mike, seems to be rethinking the Ghostbusters 3 idea. On the commentary track they talked about how the second movie is evidence that a third wouldn’t work. But yeah, I would have liked to see them try make another one. It certainly would have been better than what we ended up with. At the very worst it would probably be like Ghostbusters 2, which wasn’t great but wasn’t totally terrible.

    Oh well.

  • Uncle Dan

    I really don’t have anything really against Nolan. He’s ambitious, probably a bit more than his skill level, but most of his films are watchable. I do get a bit annoyed that he’s become a director whose name is a pull factor for mainstream audiences, because he is definitely not Spielberg or Tarantino.

    I just really wasn’t interested in a Dunkirk movie and Nolan isn’t a pull for me. While it really is an interesting, dramatic historical event, it’s kind of overblown by wartime propaganda and blind patriotism. Personally, I don’t really like war films which celebrate national achievements unless they were made in the 1960s or something, when the bias was a little obvious. Modern war movies which aren’t at least trying to be anti-war movies tend to glorify war too much for my taste.

  • Sloth

    No.
    I mean he really is Steve Bannon.
    No joke.

  • Uncle Dan

    The review showed that it’s actually a pretty interesting film to pick apart and figure out why it failed so hard on a technical level. And it’s sort of good advice for any remake: Do something different if you can, but at the very least do it well.

    Don’t make a Ghostbusters movie like an Apatow movie, because the two styles of comedy just don’t work.

  • *tears the comment zone apart*

  • Uncle Dan

    You really don’t have to. I watched it with a friend later out of curiousity and we mostly sat around not laughing and kind of confused at the attempts at humour.

    The one thing this review doesn’t go into, though the HitB episode does, is how the villain plot is just… very strange. Rather than just an interdimensional demon god coming in, it was some guy leaving devices to summon ghosts because he’s a social outcast who hates people. He wasn’t compelling or interesting in any way except to try and decide whether or not he was an analogue for Sony really pushing the male Internet bully troll as a symbolic villain for the protagonists to overcome. Honestly, I still can’t decide because they wrote him so badly I couldn’t tell.

  • jic1

    And a large portion of Doctor Who episodes.

  • KoalaJohnson

    The Jeremy Brett version! I used to watch it on WTTW Chicago’s “Mystery” block. It is the definitive on-screen version of Sherlock Holmes to me. He just embodied the book version of the character so well, and the productions were uniformly fantastic-looking, very authentic and naturalistic. If you’re ever looking for the closest thing to Doyle’s original work ever filmed, then this version is for you.

  • EJ

    Well it glorifies Dunkirk, but then again Dunkirk was a retreat. It’s not like “woohoo, we kick ass!”

    I guess I might feel differently if I were British and it was such a big part of my national mythology, but in the US Dunkirk is just kind of a historical footnote so it was interesting to see it portrayed in film.

  • KoalaJohnson

    That was my favorite comedy when I was like 14! Still holds up today. Caine and Kingsley make a shockingly hilarious double act.

  • Uncle Dan

    Just wanted to revisit this comment. I’m a big history buff, especially for WW1, so I was worried that that would conflict with my enjoyment of cheesy superhero movies.

    And it didn’t for the most part. The only historical disservice they did to anyone was to Ludendorff and I could let that go because it was important for the plot of Diana’s arc over the movie.

    Also, if I’m being honest, Diana doesn’t kill that many German soldiers in the film. The early scenes of Amazons fighting them are them fighting men invading their magical island, so that’s okay. Diana kills some of the soldiers here and there, especially when she’s pissed, but she mostly just disables them, thinking that once she’s killed Ares they’ll be good people again. I was worried about portraying Germans are just faceless bad guys, but while the movie could have done a better job of humanising them it still wasn’t bad, especially by Hollywood standards.

  • Uncle Dan

    I went to a British school growing up. It wasn’t chest thumping kind of patriotism, but the way Dunkirk was reported by propaganda and taught in history classes for generations was “turning a defeat into a victory.”

    I mean, good job wartime propaganda, that was really important at the time, but if we’re making a historical film I’d really prefer it without the rose-tinted glasses.

    Hell, while the 60s had some overly patriotic war films, a lot of them were also earnest attempts at being historically accurate and at least trying to portray the other side. Dunkirk from the British point of view is really overdone, but personally I’d have been interested in a dry, 60s style war film portraying how Hitler’s indecisiveness and politicking were big factors in allowing the British to retreat. But maybe you can’t make that kind of movie anymore.

  • Uncle Dan

    I think if you had to make another one, I’d prefer those guys made it.

  • Uncle Dan

    It was pretty shocking (okay not very) to see Mr. T short on cash. He seemed to commit to that convection oven.

    Trust RLM to find the most strange and embarrassing things on VHS.

  • Uncle Dan

    I’m actually still waiting for Mike to go over Star Trek Beyond with the fine tooth comb he said he would. I enjoy Trek but I’m pretty sure I have nowhere near the knowledge he has so I’d want to see him do it.

  • MichaelKz

    Formula, mediocrity, retreading the first movie’s plot.

  • Moist

    Come over later and we can flesh out the structure of this “Pacino vs. DeNiro in a shit-eating contest” idea of yours.

  • EJ

    Yeah Mike and the gang don’t hate this movie for misogynistic reasons, and if they put in the usual Plinkett jokes about murdering hookers, that would have just confused the issue.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    As long as the grenades sound like Al Pacino from Jack & Jill.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Good. I’ll bring my “Rocky and Bullwinkle 2” script.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    … and cocaine. It was the 80s after all, when cocaine and ketchup were considered vegetables by the Department of the Interior.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    In that film, I would think the presence of Jeffrey Jones is far more problematic.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Bring on Leah Remini and Fran Drescher.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Mike and Rich portray different Plinketts in the RLM Extended Cinematic Universe.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    If he really was Steve Bannon, I’d expect more race-baiting comments and finding excuses to call Hillary Clinton the c-word.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The Final Frontier? The theme song from Mad About You? Why do you have to drag Paul Reiser into this?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    It did have Linda Cardellini in it.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Because the original Casablanca was some indie film made on a dime by two pot-smoking slackers from New Jersey?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Aspirational characters can be funny. Just look at Donald Trump.

  • Bleurgh

    Well, I mean, Bill Murray wasn’t wrong was he? The sequel didn’t do the original justice.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    On that note, Plinkett could review JFK.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Your kind don’t deserve originality. The alt-right is a haven for cowards and traitors.

  • Bleurgh

    They knew how unfunny the film was and tried to make it bright and colourful to make it seem fun / try to make it appeal to children / rip off GOTG.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Take her where?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Isn’t that redundant?

  • Sloth

    He’s incognito!

  • ninja egyptologist

    Gonna order me up some Papa Jizz-on’s!
    (flips everyone the bird)

  • Bleurgh

    Can someone please make a gif out of that Ernie Hudson double-take after Bill Murray says ‘it was only because I knew these girls were funny’. I feel like that should be the reaction image for every time someone says an outrageous lie or something unbelievably stupid. Maybe someone could make a twitter account that replies with that gif to every single Trump tweet.

  • Spoiled Ants

    Dan Aykroyd is starting to become the bad penny that always shows up on RLM content. When are you hacks gonna re:view Coneheads and get it over with?

  • Brian Levine

    But what about the quality films like My Stepmother is an Alien?

  • Brian Levine

    I’m pretty sure that Plinkett has already done Kirk.

  • Spoiled Ants

    That one goes straight into the SNL garbage bin, hand in hand with ‘So I Married an Axe Murderer’.

  • maninahat

    I liked the movie, but as always I appreciate the depth and attention to film making in these reviews (so dense!). I hadn’t even noticed the stupidly high saturation, but it is really quite bad.

    That said, there’s only so many ways you can say a joke isn’t funny (and you can take any joke out of context and slap a laugh track on it to make it look weak). Self-serious movies allow for better hatchet jobs.

  • RLMkeepitup

    there’s so many quotable lines from that 84 film. the script appears to be in another league than this one. not to mention the 80s soundtrack and shots of new york. a movie that uses repeated references to other movies just because it can is a sign of lack of focus to me, especially when its a god damn remake of another one in the first place.

  • Andy James

    The Scottish dad stuff was good (albeit, something of a rehash of the Scottish store skit on SNL), and there were a few solid jokes otherwise. I’m just saying, it isn’t My Stepmother is an Alien level bad.

  • Norm Chomsky

    Best review Plinkett’s done since Crystal Skull. Tittanic and Force Awakens were interesting but it’s always better when he fully hates a film. He also did it in a way that will please the Sensitive Joss Wheedons AND the Moronic Ray Allens

  • Norm Chomsky

    I enjoyed Axe Murderer. it doesn’t deserve to be lumped in with the Corky Romanos and Ladies Mans of the world

  • Norm Chomsky

    What I remember most about Scarface is a friend insisting Francis Ford Coppola directed it, not Brian De Palma. This was pre-smartphone but post-internet, and he was proven wrong. He was one of those neckbeards who would still not admit defeat.

  • Norm Chomsky

    You don’t tug on Mercury’s dick!

  • Norm Chomsky

    It was relevant to bash Sony too. Sony is in a huge slump and it’s worth noting why. The review also transcends the culture wars crap and I’m glad he didn’t even bring it up. You can hate the film AND think those actresses are funny when there’s an actual director, you know, directing.

  • Norm Chomsky

    Space Military Contractor Executive

  • Norm Chomsky

    That whole thing would’ve been funny in an actual satire of tired movie references and celebrity shilling. Maybe that’s what Sandler was going for, but then the whole film was a commercial so it falls apart

  • Norm Chomsky

    There was some very real backlash to all 3 films having women/minority leads for properties that once starred white men. I do believe the cast that they got harassed by some of the RW media fucks like Milo’s army of assholes. But that doesn’t mean we have to like the Ghostbusters film. It still sucked. And for Star Wars Rey was still a bit too perfect. I’m predicting the next one will put some cracks in her facade and show the consequences of being abandoned.

  • Hack Snyder

    Memento is a masterpiece.

  • EJ

    Except, they all ARE funny. Every single one of them has been funny in other things. They just had a shit script and poor direction.

  • Hack Snyder

    The very end of Dunkirk is patriotic but the rest of the film is relentless dread. It isn’t schmaltzy propaganda, it’s a survival film. The soldiers aren’t perfect heroes, they do some questionable shit to survive. I highly recommend seeing it in theater but I should warn you that there’s very little dialogue and the characters aren’t given backstories.

  • EJ

    Back in the pre-internet days, my friends and I used to IRL troll film nerds by insisting on idiotic fake facts like “Caddyshack” had won a best picture Oscar. You could drive people absolutely mental. The internet and especially smart phones ruined all that.

  • Bleurgh

    That’s not the point. It’s obviously not the reason Murray decided to get on board and it’s a straight up insult to Ernie Hudson and Dan Ackroyd that implies he wouldn’t do it before because the original cast wasn’t funny enough. It’s straight up bullshit.

  • Bleurgh

    Cone-heads is under-rated.

  • EJ

    I also miss those old 1960s WWII movies with long sequences of British officers drinking tea and looking worriedly at maps. I just re-watched Sink the Bismarck and aside from the over-the-top and inaccurate portrayal of Admiral Lütjens, it’s a great example of the genre.

    I do see where you’re coming from re: Dunkirk and like I said, might feel the same way if I’d grown up with it as part of my national mythology instead of just something quickly described in a general history of WWII. I do think it’s still possible to portray “the other side” – Letters from Iwo Jima springs to mind as a recent example – I’m sure there are others.

    I think there is a general tendency among contemporary war films, especially American ones, to focus on the experiences of ordinary soldiers rather than the big tactical picture. I suspect this is because 1) the last WWII veterans are dying off, and 2) the US has been at war, in one form or another, for most of the 21st century, leading to more curiosity among audiences about what combat and generally being in the military is like.

    But films like this have always been around. Das Boot came out in 1981, and it’s more or less entirely from the perspective of the U-Boat crew. The only time you see any allied personnel is the brief scene of the crew of the torpedoed tanker calling for help. And Das Boot is partly inspired by The Cruel Sea, which came out in 1953 and is similarly narrowly focused on the British crew of an escort corvette that’s hunting U-boats.

  • EJ

    Ah, I see what you mean.

  • Spoiled Ants

    It probably isn’t, I just haven’t seen both those movies since 90’s so I limped them together.

  • EJ

    So Rich as Plinkett is a soft reboot?

  • EJ

    Casablanca was actually a total Hollywood clusterfuck. There’s like 4 screenwriters, the studio fucked around with the story and the casting, etc. It’s a masterpiece, but largely by accident.

  • EJ

    Crustaceans will watch anything.

  • Boldizar

    Just like Frozen!… ….

  • ikdks

    This was really good. It had a nice simply theseus, you can’t improv scifi. Don’t do a land war in asia, turn a ho into a housewife, or improv scifi, makes sense to me.

  • EJ

    Edgar Wright could have probably pulled this movie off. He’s got an eye for the precisely timed visual humor this movie needed, and his style is pretty much the antithesis of “plop the camera in front of your actors and let them improvise for an hour.”

  • EJ

    Just like Luke, aside from being a bit whiny, kicked major ass in ANH but then got bested by Vader in Empire? It’s like poetry, it rhymes.

  • EJ

    Well Bridesmaids was basically a raunchy Judd Apatow style comedy, except with chicks instead of bros. So he could get away with just letting his actors improvise and edit it into shape later. GB isn’t that kind of movie.

  • Moist

    Maybe it just appeals to one specific section.

  • No Name

    But why such a harsh treatment of this movie by Mr Plinkett? And I thought he was a feminist….

    Now, I don’t know Paul Feig, i haven’t seen anything that he has directed or written, but by just seeing and listening to him in these interviews, i can sense that the guy knows nothing about comedy. He just tries desperately to make you laugh and he fails of course.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Since Plinkett hates all the ad-libbing in Lady Ghostbusters, does that mean “penis mightier”?

    **wipes sweat from brow**

    Whew! Way to belabor a pun.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    True, Plinkett is a Third Wave Hooker Decapitator. Just like Gloria Steinem!
    **slide whistle**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Joss Whedon definitely is a feminist. Like when he fired that actress from “Angel” for getting pregnant.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Must consume mass quantities!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    And Axe-Murderer had Nancy Travis as a sexy butcher.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    It might get obscured from the abundance of mushroom cloud gifs. And real mushroom clouds.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Because of his track record for not giving his employees health insurance, does that make him a ghoul or a vampire?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I don’t remember that one.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Before Von Trier became enamored with the cinematic wet dump that is Dogme 95.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    They can’t afford the ink.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Their both rather soft in places, especially in the middle parts.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    It must work, since anytime I see a picture of Steve Bannon, I have to hold back the urge to vomit.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    They passed the torch and set the franchise on fire.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Especially the McDonald’s that also sex clubs.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Not until those geniuses at Collider make a supercut of the two films.

  • smogmos68

    Here is my apology.

    The Position of Fuck You (John Goodman in The Gambler)

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  • Foreman 371

    People who pay him could watch. And they could ask “Why is the guy making our expensive comedy movie not a comedian himself? How is that supposed to work?” That’s all there is in my opinion.

  • Thanatos

    Just an hour of Peter Feig interview clips would explain why this movie is so awful. They’re so cringe inducing.

  • Thanatos

    I guess after Rich’s good performance as a Sony shill on the Nerd Crew, he got a job offer as a Sony suit.

  • Cakefarts

    Wrong about the Ho’s. Ho’s in their 40’s make excellent housewives.

  • Foreman 371

    maybe they think he is some nerd- geek icon and they want to please that audience here. But as a nerd… SEMI nerd myself I only feel highly disturbed whenever I hear or see him nowadays tbh.

  • Foreman 371

    same here. If Murray was against a Ghostbusters III or II because the scripts were terrible it would make him a hero. Someone who is against the “milking to the death” of great movies.

  • Andy James

    I guess I should have phrased it like this: You consider that in order to get more Annie Potts we’d have to get more Who’s Harry Crumb?s, and it doesn’t seem worth the trade-off.

  • Moist

    Typical. I make a math joke and you go off on a tangent.

  • Sloth

    This is a moviezone.
    We aren’t math scientists!

  • Sloth

    There she goes….
    There she goes again…

  • Sloth

    He’s a ghoulpyre!

  • Sloth

    It’s instantly forgettable.

  • Gerald Potterton

    In a world of “Jack & Jill” and “What to Expect When You’re Expecting” if this is the movie you’re getting most upset about you should probably stop watching movies.

  • Strelnikov

    The idea of filming stripped-down movies is fine, I just loathed The Idiots . I remember that it had gotten to a point where, when the film The King is Alive came out in 2000, the arthouse theaters did not mention that it was a Dogme 95 picture at all, that’s how little of a selling point the movement was five years after it started.

  • ikdks

    So whatever marketing exec from Papa John’s assigned to asses the negative impact of this review on your brand, tell your boss to keep his ugly fucking mug out of the ads.

    Nobody wants to watch him have a midlife crisis on national tv.

  • Trump Dumper

    Paul Feig might be the most annoying man alive. I want to pour grape juice all over his pristine suits.

  • peterablex

    Corporate filmmaking at its finest!

  • peterablex

    Yes they do

  • RLMkeepitup

    we only stop watching movies, when they stop making them. but they won’t stop making them if we keep watching them. its a vicious cycle #wedidthis

  • Strelnikov

    He wasn’t happy about how Ghostbusters II turned out, which is why he was turning down second sequel Ghostbusters scripts for years. I don’t know if that makes him a hero or just somebody who hates going back to the well.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    And Ghostbusters (2016) was like unboxing a package of rotting hot dogs.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Is there some anti-John Candy animus I’m not picking up?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    You monster! Imagine the dry cleaning bills!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Yoga Hosers 2: Nepotism Boogaloo.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I’m a fan of John Goodman:

    Donny: Are these the Nazis, Walter?

    Walter Sobchak: No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there’s nothing to be afraid of.

  • RedLetterMediumsDotCorn

    Thank you RLM for giving me the biggest laugh in a year, followed by melancholy followed by this weird warm feeling and then more laughs and epiphanies.

  • Bubs

    Maybe I’m alone in this, but I actually really enjoyed the Chris Helmsworth (sic) stuff. It was the only time during the whole movie where I wasn’t groaning and, dare I say, was actually laughing at. It wasn’t brilliant stuff, but at least it was clever and the comedic timing was right. The Mike Hat joke was solid, had a good punch line, and was overall pretty great. When he leaves at the end and was like “Can I bring my luggage up?” I was fully expecting him to bring up a cat named “Ma Luggage” – but I guess no one on set was as clever as me. That, or they didn’t want to pay the insurance required to have animals on set.

    Yeah he was a retard, but retards are hilarious.

  • Andy James

    No, he was a Canadian treasure. It’s just that for more Annie Potts, more shitty movies would have had to be made to put her in.

  • Uncle Dan

    I love “Saving Private Ryan.” I think it’s a shame that that movie ended up being interpreted as heroic war rather than the tragedy it was attempting to portray.

    But yeah, I don’t have a problem with “focus on a small group of people.” “Since you mention it, Das Boot” is absolutely fantastic, at least the Director’s Cut. The miniseries is… really long and feels that way.

    But my point is rather like how Saving Private Ryan was supposed to portray ordinary people caught up in war and forced to make hard decisions at the cost of their souls, but ended up being interpreted as another example of America saving the world. Most people I talked to seemed to interpret it that way, and just see the battle scenes as “badass” even if the film mostly wasn’t trying to do that.

    I don’t know if it’s the film’s problem or the culture consuming it, though.

    Kind of like how Fight Club is clearly deconstructing Tyler Durden’s point of view, but a lot of people still quote his lines.

  • ikdks

    I don’t know.

    Tick tick tick…

  • TheVerySpecialK

    You know, that’s a great way to sum up Ghostbusters 2016: the retard is smarter, funnier, and has better comedic timing than all the other characters and jokes in the film.

  • AJ

    The Wizard of Oz part makes all this make a lot more sense; shameful.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    How so?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    That what made the Dubya presidency such a hoot.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Yes, because the original Ghostbusters was directed by Stan Brakhage and cast $300.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Unless it is a mid-life crisis Budd Dwyer-style.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Also: consider checking your spelling before posting online comments.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    It could be Sponsored Content on behalf of Crystal Skull Vodka.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Will they be able to walk better?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Of course that’s wrong. Zapped! swept the Oscars that year.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Well, masturbating with an American flag will make you a blind patriot.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    For fun?

  • Sloth

    Brakhage!
    What a fuckin’ sell-out…

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Brakhage is not true auteur. That honor goes to Paul W.S. Anderson.

  • Sloth

    ewe eckspekt uss two spel gud?

  • Jaygon1234

    Hack! No Tums Festival reference?

  • RLMkeepitup

    the director is blissfully unaware of basic cinema

  • EJ

    Simply Theseus. For when you absolutely, positively have to kill every last Minotaur in the room.

  • EJ

    The problem with Heat is I always end up just skipping to the big shootout. The rest of the movie is good but the shootout is so next-level it kind of overshadows the rest of it.

  • bmcelvan .

    So funny…literally watched it last night (for my Son’s first time) so that part was right in my brain! …shameful is a great description!

  • EJ

    Also, a gay man not recognizing a reference to The Wizard of Oz is fairly mind-boggling.

  • Foreman 371

    that’s his old name. He has a new one. “Theonewedonotwriteabout”. It’s a rather strange name but that’s fate I guess.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Definitely not a classic like It’s Pat: The Movie.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Nope, just a little Kaopectate Party.

  • EJ

    You’d be surprised how few people know that. Of course, it had pretty stiff competition from Ski School 2.

  • EJ

    What’s especially funny is style-wise it’s such a Brian De Palma movie, and so not really a Francis Ford Coppola film.

  • ikdks

    Hey, fuc off (sic).

  • ikdks

    No friend of Dorothy.

  • Casey D. Mann

    I think the funniest part of the whole affair is that every male in the movie is stupid, arrogant, and/or despicable.

  • Norm Chomsky

    True, he also didn’t need to be shown learning how to fly an X-Wing. He just knew. I think the sheer amount of stuff Rey knew was part of it (piloting, knows all languages including Droid, sword skills vs someone who murdered almost all of the neoJedi), but there is definitely a double standard for female characters.

  • EJ

    If you like Das Boot you really should see The Cruel Sea. It really holds up well. It also has Denholm Elliot in one of his first major roles so if you mainly know him from stuff like Trading Places and the Indiana Jones movies, it’s fun seeing him when he was younger.

  • Jack and Jill got its fair treatment in HitB, arguably one of the best episodes of the series ever.

  • EJ

    Seriously. The dude even sucks at being gay.

  • Citizen Outkast

    OMG this movie sounds horrible. I couldn’t stand the cringe in just the clips, so my decision to not bother with it at all is totally justified. Thanks for ripping it a new one and pointing out how easily better comedians could have fixed it. Plinkett’s edits to improve the jokes did exactly that. Everyone associated with this film should feel ashamed and voluntarily remove themselves from ever making anything that will show up on a single screen.
    Except maybe the “best boy grip.” He can stay.

  • Admiral Bone-to-Pick

    On a par with the classic Plinkett reviews. Well done.

  • Hack Snyder

    The Michael Bay comparison doesn’t make any sense. Nolan heavily relies on practical effects and his action sequences are usually pretty steady, Bay heavily relies on CGI and his action sequences are usually extremely shaky. Nolan is ultra serious, Bay loves to throw in tons and tons of comic relief. They’re opposites. The only thing they have in common is they make blockbusters.

  • Plus wasn’t that him and the other writer discussing they both didn’t know what the source of it was? So who the fuck wrote it in? That cost thousands of dollars and it’s a reference even the director/writer doesn’t get? Why even put it there? Why spend money on it? I didn’t know what the reference was til Plinkett pulled up the og clip so I can say it wasn’t money well spent.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Speaking of something that went so terribly wrong and SUCKS so HARD, Plinkett should review Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Liberace was gay? But the women loved him.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Event Horizon wasn’t that bad. Plinkett should review Alien vs. Predator. Because, holy shit!, how do you fuck an awesome premise like that?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Stop quoting Finnegans Wake!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Didn’t Andrey Tarkovsky direct that one? Or was it Stanley Kubrick?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Ski School 2 is no License to Drive.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    How can he be smug? His face reminds me of a servile taint-polisher. Hollywood shoe shine guys are like, “Hey, Paul Feig, stop stealing my business!”

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Heat is a really long movie, but that’s part of the appeal. The shootout is great, but it is the narrative crescendo to all the meticulous character building and slow, accumulative plotting. Hell, the shootout at the abandoned drive-in is pretty badass. Not to mention the non-action of the stake-out at the Investment-grade Metals facility. I also loved how Mann turned LA into a monochromatic industrial dystopia, a never-ending urban expanse of concrete and pavement.

    The Heat with Melissa McCarthy … well, I haven’t seen that movie, so I can’t say.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    So just like in real life? The entire facade of Western civilization would collapse if those double standards weren’t in place. Or so someone with a MAGA red hat told me.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Dick Clark 5 in the Andromeda Galaxy?

  • Thanatos

    Only thing it’s really lacking is a good background storyline. Plinkett’s not murdering anyone for some reason.

  • *randomly projectile vomits all over the place*
    Yo cago en la leche de tu puta madre!

  • EJ

    It was probably improv. Because it’s such a part of pop culture that it’s just a thing you might say, without even intending it as a reference.

  • Moist

    Do you mean the Dave Clark Five or is there a Dick Clark cinematic universe or… wtf are you even talking about?

  • Moist

    [sad Kirk Cameron birthday party.jpg]

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Only the reputation of Paul Feig! Hey-o!
    **slide whistle**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    In the commemorative Mad Foxes RLM-branded Piss Tub.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The last 3 words are unnecessary in that assertion.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “Jack and Jill went up the hill … and then they had intercourse! Boom! Comedy!” – Andrew “Dice” Clay

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I’ve seen underlings of Kim Jong-un less servile and fawning than Paul Feig in those interviews.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Maybe Edgar Wright just had the intelligence and testicular fortitude to say “No” to the idiots at Sony.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I wonder if the all-female remake/sequel/reboot of Oceans 11 will be this gobsmackingly terrible?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Plinkett should review The Godfather: Part III.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    That explains Steve Bannon’s face these days.

  • EJ

    That would be impossible since nobody actually saw that movie.

  • EJ

    I like Event Horizon. Aside from a few dated CGI effects, it’s really solid sci-fi horror. I’ve never understood why that movie gets so much hate.

  • gerberbaby_tutu

    Thank you for your honest critique. I went into this movie apprehensive. I’m a woman and felt like these ladies in the film had a lot of weight on their shoulders to prove that “women are funny.” It seemed absurd. I never even thought of the original Ghostbusters movies has funny, just entertaining. Then, I tried to watch this with an open eye, but the dancing….and the poor opening (not even what you mentioned; I thought the introduction to Kristen Wiig’s character was awful and unmemorable/confusing).

    I do believe you’re onto something. This was a really poor script. These ladies are all so funny and Wiig is a really good actress. Me and my husband absolutely love Bridesmaids and watch it anytime it’s on.

    Oh well. Maybe they’ll re-reboot this? : / : / Oy. No interest, honestly! They could have done such a cool story!!!! Where was it?!?!

  • EJ

    I’m not sure about “turned LA into a monochromatic industrial dystopia.” Other than the bits of the Hollywood Hills and some beaches that you see on TV, that’s just kinda what LA is. Trust me, I used to live there.

  • EJ

    I know the criticism but I don’t really see it. Luke goes from bullseyeing whomp rats in his T-36 or whatever to pulling off a shot that veteran pilots with long experience in X-wings doubted could be done, and does it without his targeting computer. Rey goes from hot-dogging random ships at the junkyard to flying the Millenium Falcon. Rey goes from being skilled at staff fighting to taking on Kylo Ren (who bear in mind is not a Sith Lord – sure he killed the new Jedi but they were a bunch of padawans). We’re back to the O.G. Force here, where it’s not really about magic spells so much as making you Good At Stuff.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    So what you’re saying is that the movie was bad?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I saw it. I think. All I remember is Josh Brolin and Shia LaPoof riding motorcycles.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Because Max Landis didn’t direct it?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “Math is a socialist plot to make Americans not learn their history through Confederate statues!” — Steve Bannon’s LiveJournal.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Badonkadunkirk

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “Berliners get a good laugh at how Jason Bourne runs in a few seconds between locations that are really miles apart.”

    It’s called editing.

    Have you read the BFI Modern Classics book on Heat by Nick James? It’s under 100 pages and really quite good.

    I can also see how over-familiarity with a location can take away the movie magic. Like the Blues Brothers driving the Hoan Bridge (in Milwaukee) during a Chicago car chase.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Said the faux badass holding the tiki torch late for his driver’s ed class.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    If I’m playing softball, I might find new and interesting uses for a bat. Bat beats tiki torch? Is that right? I need to check the rules in my Parker Bros. play set.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    One of the founders of Vice went from hipsters to anti-Semite. Plus he has a quirky mustache and the most punchable face in the universe. Google Gavin McInnes.

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    They probably think anger is some substitute for a functioning pair of testicles. Tiki torch wielding eunuchs and moral bottom feeders. Makes me nostalgic for the Greatest Generation. They saw the Nazi threat and carpet bombed the ever-loving shit out of Germany.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Puke from envy?

  • EJ

    Edits can create an impression that time has passed, and when they don’t, in the middle of an action sequence, your brain assumes that one event happened immediately after another. Especially if there’s no other visual clue like it clearly being a different time of day.

    Yeah if you don’t know the city that well you only notice the incongruities that are really egregious, like Zach Snyder putting a tropical island in the middle of Lake Michigan.

  • Norm Chomsky

    3PO tends to be there to translate, or someone. Then again someone attuned to the force should be able to understand almost any creature, that’s a skill really unexplored by most Star Wars media.

  • Norm Chomsky

    And now his wife is throwing his career under the bus. Good times

  • EJ

    Yeah the tone of the original Ghostbusters is hard to pull off. It’s a comedy but in the way something like Shaun of the Dead or Hot Fuzz is a comedy. The premise is silly and there’s a lot of wacky antics, but there’s also a dramatic story that you can take seriously. That’s why I figure Edgar Wright would have been a good choice. Hell, if they really wanted to push the feminist angle, get Kathryn Bigelow to direct. I don’t think she’s ever done an out and out comedy, but she certainly can handle action and drama, and Point Break proves she’s willing to get silly. I bet with a good script she could have nailed this one.

    They really went all in with the idea that they were going to prove that “women can be funny,” as if Lucille Ball, Carol Burnett, Gilda Radner, Sarah Silverman, etc., etc., etc. never existed, and I guess they figured they’d just get the guy who did the most recent popular female led comedy to do it.

  • EJ

    Oh hey, Papa John brought a bag lunch, he’s just a working stiff like – OH GOD NO!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “Best boy grip”? You mean Dennis Hastert: Wrestling Coach?

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    **gun shot**
    **canned laughter**
    **Price is Right sad trombone**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The same way Whedon threw himself under his female stars. Hey-o!

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    Rich Evans in Space Tim Gunn: Space Dandy.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The comment section does seem a little gentrified. All these IPA-drinking hipsters talking about their airbnbs and their sustainable beard lotions. What next, RLM buying out Whole Foods?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Unless someone shat in a sink at a bridal store.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I don’t even know, man.

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    “I’ll bankroll this Casablanca remake. It’s the film where the Nazis are the good guys, right?” — US President Donald Trump

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    “Say hello to my chocolate blend!”

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Popkern? What type is that? You seem to be a font of wisdom.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Hitler did build a wall and had France pay for it. Didn’t do him any good though.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Remember to have your Golan-Globus checked by your doctor before you’re 40.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I remember a bunch of MRA noise about those two movies. MRAs are a bunch of emotional manbabys. Must have been their time of the month.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The funniest joke ever written was German:

    Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Designing Women?

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    Do we need Cialis?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The horse doesn’t seem to mind.

  • Strelnikov

    AKA Canon Films, which imploded due to bad decisions and a money manager with his hands in the till.

  • Bill Hiers

    I’ve been a Ghostbusters fan since childhood. The first movie is probably the earliest movie I can remember seeing as a kid (the other was Sheena). And yet, unlike most people in my age group, I actually liked this movie. I can see, of course, why many people wouldn’t, but I’m often infuriated by the suggestion (implicit or otherwise) that I’m not a “true” Ghostbusters fan if I don’t outright hate this film. I can be a true fan of the original(s) AND like this movie, warts and all, thanks. 😀

  • Bill Hiers

    With the exception of Kevin, all the stupid, arrogant and/or despicable men are in antagonistic roles in one way or another. So being being portrayed negatively has less to do with them being male and more to do with them just being close-minded jerks (although I do agree that the second dean was way over the top and I doubt such a person could exist in that kind of position for long). And Kevin was funny. Eh.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Sounds like a blurb for a book on the history of the Trump Administration.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Bill Murray is a dick? No wonder his characters from Wes Anderson movies seem like they’re phoned in from the world’s laziest actor.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Dogme 95 is stupid and boring.

  • Movie Wan Kenovie

    Me personally, I laughed every time Paul Feig appeared on screen, so one could argue he is in fact a master of comedy…

  • Movie Wan Kenovie

    Plinkett’s hate gives him focus. Makes him stronger…

  • Marnie Rutland

    Thanks for the handy video essay to embed or link if this movie comes up in conversation. It is so much more efficient than paraphrasing the same arguments over and over. Little hard on Rogue One, and a good Indy Jones film could be made if he played his age and vulnerability, and I am reluctant to process the Bill Murray dig, but you make points I can’t refute. The director Paul Feig had a real ego issue refusing to hand the technology from the Eighties crew. Maybe Ghostbusters is a dead brand.

  • Doog

    I am going to go out on a limb and say that this wasn’t a bad Ghostbusters movie. I have seen the movie close to 15 times now. My 4 year old daughter likes it and compared to whatever else, it is high up on my list. She was really really into Mad Max: Fury Road for awhile. Man those were glorious times. But back to Ghostbusters, it is a fun movie that gave me a few laughs. Honestly, I think I laughed out loud more in this one than in Ghostbusters 1 or 2. Not that makes it a better movie but it did have some good scenes. There are a few scenes in the movie that don’t flow well. I think the movie got edited and re-edited over and over to try to make it more palatable to “true ghostbuster” fans.

    Evolution was the real sequel to Ghostbusters 2. It was a fun, witty, monster movie with a good cast. It was good but not great. I don’t know if people remember it anymore. I don’t think the original Ghostbusters well could be tapped again for the same effect. I don’t even think kids now days would get blown away by watching Ghostbusters. It was good and funny but every year there are good and funny movies released. The only reason I think that Ghostbusters latched on and as long as it did was due to the cartoon and the toy line that they had. Ghostbuster toys were pretty bad ass. I had a friend who’s dad was a doctor (my was too but just a cheap ass) and he had everything. I grew up on goodwill and this guy had everything. I didn’t know some people had parents like that. Anyways, there is so much good stuff in the theaters now that had Ghostbusters been released 30 years later than it had, I don’t know if it would make much of a lasting slash. There is just so much stuff in the theaters for kids now. Kind of shitty for adults wanting to watch adult movies but for kids this is like the golden age.

  • Foreman 371

    growing older I wonder what there is in getting angry over reboots, se- and prequels or games anyway. In retroperspective I could have used my time much better.

  • Moist

    So I made a decision and it was… wrong. It was a bad call, Ripley.

  • Foreman 371

    One of my first was about a kids journey into the prehistoric past. Today it looks pretty dated but there are some animals in it you won’t see anywhere else. Another one was about an Inuit couple. Human life reduced to the very core. Eye openers for me. Both movies.

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