Land of the Dead and the Social Commentary of George Romero – re:View EXTRAS

November 9, 2016117 Comments

An extended discussion that was edited out of our Dawn of the Dead re:View in which Mike and Jay talk about George Romero’s more recent zombie films and his use of social commentary in them.


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  • New Normal Bot

    Er… great, maybe you wanna add a video or a link to this post to spice it up a little maybe?

  • George Lucas

    Where is it?!!!! 🙁 HACK FRAUDS

  • Sol Bowlswurth

    first

  • I’m loving the re:View series. It’s good to see you guys talking about things you like!

  • Strelnikov

    Romero was always doomed to making that one dumb zombie film because you can only go so far in zombie-ism.

  • Yezzir!

    In Day of the Dead the zombies were symbols. In Land of the Dead there is no symbolism, so the satire feels clunkier and more obvious. The 1 percenter thing is treated as just being on a smaller scale, rather than a dig at consumerism through clever symbolism.

  • David Trojan

    The clown in Diary of The Dead is the best part of the whole movie. I laughed so hard in the theater.

  • RLMkeepitup

    I’m cool with pretending its still halloween a few more days. butt, is re:View also social commentary.. Bush W. clips?

  • Ren1

    Are we great again yet? YOU STUPID FUCKING WHITE TRASH MOTHERFUCKERS. FUCK YOU.

  • ikdks

    I’ve heard people argue that the fireworks gimmick in land of the dead is a comment on consumerism.

    It was in, like, the weekly standard or something. The gist was that Hollywood is liberal, and hates capitalism, and that the zombies being mesmerized by the fireworks was a metaphor for Americans being lulled into complacency by consumer culture.

    But I don’t agree. That was a Pittsburgh joke. For twenty years the Pirates sucked, and nobody was going to the stadium, so they started acting like arena football. They had music and pierogi races, anything to lure people into watching horrible baseball.

    So, maybe, four or five days a week there would be fireworks displays. You would walk around, downtown and people would be lining the streets, mouths agog, staring up into the sky.

    I’m sure that’s where Romero got the idea.

  • DanceOfBirther

    Those hacks should have just left this in the episode for all the people like me who haven’t seen any of the latter day Romero crap.

    Incidentally, the entire Burton/Schumacher Batman cycle, Alien vs Predator: Requiem, and Baby’s Day Out are available on HBO Go/Now. RLM needs to make with the audio commentaries.

  • I love Land of the Dead. It was so great to see him come back to the genre and actually do something fresh and fun and push the idea further after decades of slavish imitators. Zombie uprising! They’ve got guns now!
    Also John Leguizamo and Dennis Hopper were absolutely fantastic. Shame it even had the main character, should have just been about the two of them.

  • DanceOfBirther

    How do you race a pierogi? Or is it not what I think it is?

  • ikdks

    It’s six guys dressed in pierogi outfits. I have to admit, it still cracks me up.

  • RLMkeepitup

    Leguiz and Hopper were also good in Mario Bros. Surprised that’s avoided the remake treatment

  • DanceOfBirther

    Well, that movie also has Bob Hoskins, who was in Pink Floyd – The Wall with Michael Ensign who was in Ghostbusters, which I guess was remade this year.

  • MichaelKz

    Clunky symbolism, but the action is good, plus Asia Argento looks sexy in the movie.

  • ikdks

    Leguizamo was equally good in The Happening.

  • fred

    Can I just proclaim to the universe how fucking happy I am that Trump won?

  • Joe Syxpac

    Hey!

    If you’re not gonna keep your politics to yourself you can at least get the facts straight!

    That’s President Trump!

  • Joe Syxpac

    I wonder if it’s impossible to do social commentary once you get past a certain age.

    You’re just too much a part of it to effectively lampoon it.

  • kylemz

    Not sure Sydney Poitier would agree it was “radical” for a black man to be the lead actor in a movie in 1968.

  • FiachSidhe

    Oh ssssnap! That ending beat is sooo FRESH!

  • RiverboatGrambler

    Diary of the Dead would be right at home on a Halloween BotW. It’s just awful.

  • Frank Lovejoy

    As I said earlier: social commentary is inherently juvenile. It’s like going back to watch Battlestar Galactica. The need to comment on the Iraq war (along with the dumb idea to try to grey up a completely black and white conflict between man and murder robots) just tanked that show.

  • Frank Lovejoy

    “Diary of the Dead” is certainly the worst. There are so many clunkers in that movie, but the one that always grabs me is the hospital scene where they split up. When the main female character comes back and says she was almost bitten by a zombie because he “looked nice”, then does that ridiculous “wanna see me scream?!” bit … schadenfreudetastic!

  • Frank Lovejoy

    They call me MISTER!!!

  • Frank Lovejoy

    Most social commentary is about as daft. The best parody if this is Jez’s “Fuck You Bush” poem from Peep Show.

  • Pulp

    Hey,broomsticks and children go together; That’s a fact.

    THE MALLEUS MALEFICARUM (1487) PART I. QUESTION IV.
    Now the following is their method of being transported. They take the unguent which, as we have said, they make at the devil’s instruction from the limbs of children, particularly of those whom they have killed before baptism, and anoint with it a chair or a broomstick; whereupon they are immediately carried up into the air, either by day or by night, and either visibly or, if they wish,invisibly; for the devil can conceal a body by the interposition of some other substance, as was shown in the First Part of the treatise where we spoke of the glamours and illusions caused by the devil. And although the devil for the most part performs this by means of this unguent, to the end that children should be deprived of the grace of baptism and of salvation, yet he often seems to affect the same transvection without its use. For at times he transports the witches on animals, which are not true animals but devils in that form; and sometimes even without any exterior help they are visibly carried solely by the operation of the devil’s power.

  • Joe

    “High Rise’ was a “movie” staring Loki that was supposed to be about a class based tower, but instead it was just trash. I got to the end and I thought “this movie was so bad it had to be a botched execution of something else” and yes, apparently it was based on a book.

  • Paulus Decimus Meridius

    I rewatched the original trilogy cause of your review, and realised how bad Day of the Dead is. It’s depressing. overlong, overacted. I wanted to punch every single person in that movie.

  • Paulus Decimus Meridius

    Any real hopes for the big, big wall?

  • The obsession with paper money resurfaces as a weak plot point in Survival of the Dead which I somehow own on DVD and watched for the first time a few days ago.

    It’s a really bad film filled with jarring cinematography – they obviously had strong ideas for certain shots – the final one in particular, but they don’t blend in very well with the overall tone. Plot-wise it bears passing similarities to the Hershel’s farm storyline in the Walking Dead comics.

    Like all of the latter ‘…of the dead’ films there are some good ideas – I like the zombie girl on horseback, galloping around the island. I don’t think a close narrative suits Romero very well. His films work best when they take a ‘here’s a bunch of stuff that happened’ approach.

    Land of the Dead will always occupy a special place in my heart. I watched it in the cinema on my birthday while I was high on mushrooms. I left the theatre sobbing inconsolably for the plight of the undead who wanted nothing more than to shamble around and gape in awe at the pretty fireworks.

    It was Riley’s line at the end that set me off: “All they want is somewhere to go. Same as us.”

    One of the strengths of Romero’s zombies is that, in spite of the many indignities that are heaped upon them – the pies in faces, the decapitations and the dismemberments, he does allow them odd moments where you catch glimpses of their former humanity. I think that’s missing from a lot of contemporary zombie films where they are gruesome cannon fodder.

  • Practically every book J. G. Ballard wrote was based around his experiences in a Japanese concentration camp while he was a boy – watching society reconfigure itself under extreme circumstances. His book High-Rise was no exception.

  • fred

    He doesn’t get inaugurated until January though.

  • fred

    I’m just happy that Clinton lost and we have a big question mark for this upcoming term. I wanted Bernie but I’ll settle for the left freaking the fuck out for a few weeks.

  • Bence Lőcsei

    WTF?

  • Joe

    Good to know. I am not commenting on the book, just saying the movie was horrible. That said it was kinda artsy-fartsy style wise so maybe Jay might like it, he liked Under the Skin which was similarly plot dead but visually weird.

  • Lute Hende

    Don’t think so. You can go for a Zombie/Monster movie hybrid. That is the next step. Like resident evil. But with actors and directors who care about the source material.

  • Chomiq

    Jay, thanks for recommending Manhunter on some Pre Rec stream back in the day. Just watched it yesterday and it was great.

  • Chomiq

    At 75 Burnie would not make it till the end of his term.

  • I always figured the lack of subtlety in Land Of The Dead was a direct result of/comment on the Bush Administration, in an obvious, let-me-spell-it-out-for-you-assholes, “fuck you” way, and that’s why it worked for me. Same goes for the money thing (and the butler)- the rich were clinging to the only way of life they knew. For me it made Hopper’s character more despicable.

    But yeah, maybe it was just because Romero was trying to keep up, in his own way, with the complete lack of subtlety in Snyder’s remake of Dawn.

    Anyway, funny timing here (for me) as people’s fears about this week’s election outcome made me think again about this movie, and then about 30 minutes later I saw this video. Guess I’ll have to rewatch it. Hope I still like it.

  • RLMkeepitup

    if its subtle i can handle it. otherwise we end up in the realm of spoofing a person, time, or other film. it dates the material as well

  • RLMkeepitup

    Hoppers almost comically evil , like in Waterworld

  • COMPLETELY comically evil. And I love it. In Waterworld as well. His reverence for Exxon Valdez Captain “Saint Joe” Hazelwood is HILARIOUS.

  • Angela

    I only managed to watch about 10 minutes of Land of the Dead and I think it was somewhere in the middle. I only lasted that long because Simon Baker’s a bit of eye candy; though, I guess, not sweet enough to keep me watching. Good thing too, as it sounds like the “social commentary” would have caused lots of painful eye-rolling.

    I’m still trying to recover from all the eye-rolling I did while watching Snowpiercer, and that was ages ago.

  • Paulus Decimus Meridius

    It’s gonna be great.

  • Serpico Jones

    George Romero hasn’t directed a good movie since Creepshow in 1982. I remember I once expressed this opinion to Devin Faraci who immediately banned me from his website..

  • DanceOfBirther

    Or when he played a Neo-Nazi in The Twilight Zone.

  • RLMkeepitup

    Or Texas Chainsaw II. he will be missed

  • flipper_2061

    You’ll just have to use “President-elect Trump” until then.

  • Thanatos

    Nintendo has said they don’t want to do movies anymore. Which saved us from future horrors.

  • Seth

    You poor thing. I hope you recovered.

  • Angela

    Not even close. I need new glasses now, but my Obamacare ain’t covering it. Got a kickstarter and a gofundme going though, if you want to flush some cash that I’m likely to spend on wine.

  • Red Skeleton

    Fuck Patreon, bring back HotButtPoopcorn dot com!

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Land of the Socially-Conscious Dead was a real chore to sit through. You missed nothing but a lot of bad CGI blood-effects, and one mildly funny joke about car theft in Samoa.

    Snowpiercer is much beloved by some folks, but I found it a hard watch as well. Should have been set on a space-ship; that would’ve fixed 90% of the film’s problems, I think.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Is that the found-footage one with the silent Amish guy and everyone reaches a mansion at the end, complete with fully-stocked panic room, yet still somehow manage to die to Romero-style zombies?

    Or am I thinking of another of Romero’s crappy post-trilogy Dead films.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    I recall some writers on Homepage of the Dead accusing Romero of stealing the fireworks idea from one of their zombie stories. Which actually isn’t that unlikely, I think Walking Dead pulled some material from there too.

    Anyway, it’s the only idea in the whole film remotely interesting.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Partly why the Prequels are so hard to watch, and they were a hard watch when they were new. The anti-Bush/Iraq War commentary is so on the nose and dated, it hurts.

    Even makes stuff like V for Vendetta a bit hard to watch, though it’s thankfully a bit more generalized there; a good old-fashioned, all-governments-are-shit theme works better than trying to poke a specific time period, I think.

  • bleurgh

    There were good ideas in Land of the Dead, the zombies getting smarter, learning how to use tools again and co-operate with oneanother added a new level of horror to the idea. John Leguizamos character risking lives going on runs to get luxury goods for the aristocrats in the hopes he can get an apartment in the tower and Dennis Hopper basically stringing him along and eventually telling him it would never happen, because he’d never be the right social caste, that was a great dramatic turn and one of the few pieces of social commentary that actually worked. The heavily armoured vehicle they use to take bodies out of the city was a great concept. Dennis Hoppers crazy performance was great and would have been even better if he’d had better dialogue to work with, but the problems far way outweigh anything good. Apart from what Mike and Jay pointed out basically all the other characters suck, the dialogue is terrible, the plot is chaotic and stupid. This was Romeros chance at a career resurgence and he screwed it up. As far as I’m concerned the series ends with Day.

  • ikdks

    Fortress Pittsburgh was cool. The zombie messiah was cool too. The problem was in the script. A good script doctor could have made this a great movie. There’s hints of Lucas in Romero.

    That and Leguizamo is a film killer. I remember when he came up, it was right after She’s Gotta Have It, everybody was looking for the next Spike Lee, and he was anointed the Latin version.

    It was emperor’s new cloths, everybody liked him because everybody liked him. But it knew he sucked, even then.

    It’s really no wonder Shamadong caste him in the happening, they’re peas in a pod.

  • Lute Hende

    As Hillary cut down Bernie Sanders I knew Trump is possible. Huge mistake of the democrats. And for our media that are going crazy now, calling half the USA stupid: They were pro Clinton right from the start. No Sanders, no Jill Stein. And Trump was only the “mad idiot”. Is that the job of the media? Hide informations? Or filter them for us? I think our “independent” media tried to manipulate us here or at least rode the anti Trump mainstream instead of doing their job. Inform us.

  • We’re not 100% sure Clinton will still be healthy enough to attend Trump’s inauguration. She might pull a Jack Layton on us.

  • Which, for all the talk about “reforming the archaic electoral college” nonsense, brings up the point of can’t you guys figure out a way to speed up the transition between administrations? We’re past the horse and buggy era, you should be able to replace one President with another in relatively short order.

    Our Little Potato was sworn in on November 4th last year 16 days after his election. And even then, he was already the PM the next day, the swearing-in was more of a formality. In 2010, David Cameron became the PM five days after the election…and there wasn’t even a clear winner.

    If you want your “only in America” moment don’t use “Donald Trump is actually the President”, use “Donald Trump is the President but for officially sits on the sidelines as his predecessor gets to pretend it never happened”.

  • Yeah we’ll see how long that lasts with Warcraft being a big hit.

  • flipper_2061

    It was only a linguistics lesson. Sorry to have triggered you!

  • Thanatos

    Warcraft was only a big hit thanks to China. Guess who Nintendo doesn’t like?

  • Angela

    I can ignore ham-fisted social commentary in many films, if they work otherwise and entertain me. There was something about Snowpiercer right from the beginning though, where I was unable to suspend disbelief and just kept thinking (and maybe saying aloud to the tv), “Oh come on!”

    I didn’t HATE it, but it was absurd, and not in a good way. It reminded me, of all things, of Barbara Ehrenreich’s book Nickel and Dimed. It set up ridiculous rules and expected us to buy the story. Didn’t work for me.

  • bleurgh

    Saw Arrival the other night. It was surprisingly great. Denis Villeneuve is yet to make a single not great movie. It’s a shame he is yet to get the respect he deserves.

  • Like Icare

    The train bit really stretches the plausibility. As steampunk and dieselpunk tends to do.
    Should have been a sled-train instead… perhaps permanently chasing the sunlit side, racing across the frozen Earth at 1000 miles per hour…
    And that bit about an explosive drug is rather stupid and too convenient.

    Also, some of the built in symbolism gets lost if you don’t pay attention to the fact that the director is Korean.
    Which borders a country, encapsulated in its own world, with its own special little hierarchy… and whose citizens have literally been starved down to about a head’s length shorter than their southern cousins.
    Plus, there were some reports of cannibalism during famines.

  • EJ

    Snowpiercer was frustrating because it was so well-cast, well-written and it looked so good I could ALMOST get past how fucking dumb and nonsensical the basic concept was.

  • EJ

    “The left” isn’t freaking out. They’re saying “we tried to fucking warn you but you had to go with a candidate that half the country utterly despises.”

  • sigaba

    “Sicario” feels like a TV movie if you’ve seen “Cartel Land” but I agree other people seem to like it.

  • sigaba

    Poitier was on the record as being really upset about the roles he’d gotten, even when he was the lead he was always a sexless magical black man, “In the Heat of the Night” is almost an exception but it’s kinda outweighed by “To Sir with Love” and “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner.” (All 1967.)

    “Night”‘s Ben is subversive because he’s black AND he’s allowed to have scenes with a white girl AND he’s about a hundred times more competent and in-control than all the white people in the movie.

  • sigaba

    “All governments are shit, that base their power on doctrinaire displays of civic Christianity, hatred of foreigners, mysoginy and racist nationalist myths.” Something like that.

    V also has that nasty habit of setting up a situation where victory for the good guys is only a few terrorist bombings away. Because when you kill lots of people and blow up buildings, that will get the survivors to pay attention to your political program.

  • sigaba

    He got completely screwed out of royalties on “Night” and has been trying to grab that wave ever since.

    I heard him at ComiCon several years ago and while he’s a really brilliant and sensitive filmmaker he was evidently a horrible businessman and he had missed a ton of opportunities to capitalize on his work and branch out into other things.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    (I HATE IT! not even wiki-links?!? this is riddicoulos!)

    I love that movie, stands in my list of all-time-favourits; its *not* an SF-movie as advertised from miramax, its a
    metaphor, an analogy and a comment on socity. it has nothing to do with
    “realism” in a scientific or plausible way, hence the “unrealistic”
    worldbuilding.

    did you know the french comic it was based on? its even absurder than the film:

    (no fuckin’ links allowed, he?) look at wiki for:

    Le_Transperceneige

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    see my post under yours…

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    arrival, yes? I wonder, why literally nobody mentioned “Epoch” from 2001; its in keypoints pretty simillar plotwise, even the (SPOILERS AHEAD)

    pregnancy/childwish at the end.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    “It’s depressing. overlong, overacted. I wanted to punch every single person in that movie”

    kinda the whole point of that movie…

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    c’mon; at least “underTheSkin” got an ending which makes sense…I personaly liked it.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    no, your right; its exactly this one…

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    They call me MISTER *TIBBS*!! scnr

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    that means hopefully drumpf with his 70 cant get trough another election-period.

    what abou pence? this guy is really the worst.

  • EJ

    It was almost jarring how good it was. Like, oh, you mean they still make big-budget hollywood sci-fi movies that make you think and are more about smart people figuring things out than pointless action? Kind of had a bit of a Solaris vibe to it.

  • EJ

    I dunno, that’s what I thought about Sicario until it was over, then I couldn’t stop thinking about it. That movie gets in your head in weird ways.

  • sigaba

    Have you seen Cartel Land? The thing is is that Sicario‘s moral universe is significantly simpler than real life, if you believe that.

    It’s hard to be shocked by movie bodies hanging from an overpass when you’ve seen footage of the real thing, and Benicio’s character feels like something out of a 60s western compared to some of the people in real life who do what he does.

    Edit: Also Sicario kinda sickened me because it seemed to get a lot of mileage out of beating the shit out of the supposedly strong female protagonist.

  • Malevolence

    Arrival deserves a review, it’s a smart movie which is also accessible to most people. Felt kind of disappointed that local theater rather screen Trolls than Arrival but… what can you do? Can’t beat a movie about a cancer infested pedo midget being seduced by a little girl who was actually a troll… oh wait… wrong film

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    oh. you think interstellar was a good movie? hmmm, maybe I should skip Arrival then…

  • bleurgh

    It’s smarter than interstellar. For me that movie was a really stupid plot that they used to justify some spectacular visuals.

  • EJ

    No, I personally enjoyed it but mainly because I like the cast, the performances and the visuals. That’s why I compared it to Sunshine – I found it fun to watch but when you break it down it was fairly stupid, and I totally get why people wouldn’t like it.

    Sometimes I movie comes along that you know even as you’re watching it isn’t particularly good by most objective standards, but for whatever reason you enjoy it anyway, you know? Whereas Arrival is a legitimately smart and good movie.

  • EJ

    Yeah I’ve seen it, well worth it. I think the way Sicario was sort of stylized actually kind of heightened the shock value in some ways – the comparison to a 60s Western is a good one. I also really liked Emily Blunt’s character as a sort of “What the fuck is going on here” audience surrogate.

  • EJ

    Yeah I get of course that nobody involved thought that it was realistic and it was a surrealistic fantasy allegory, but maybe it was how the visuals made it look just enough like a real train that somewhere in the back of my brain I couldn’t shake thoughts of wait? Who built this train track? Why? How is it maintained so they can just barrel along endlessly at 100 mph? that kept intruding on my enjoyment of the movie.

    Compared to say, Mad Max, at least after the first movie, where no fucks at all are given about the backstory or exactly how the world went to shit. It just did, ok? And now we’re telling you a story.

  • bleurgh

    Devin Feraci was forced to resign from that website after it came out that he had Trumped a bunch of women so no big deal.

  • bleurgh

    I hope Trump dies before the start of his.

  • Popo Bawa

    I like Day a lot, because it is so bleak and devoid of likeable characters. It seemed “realistic” to how people would interact in a real zombie overrun. Also IIRC it looked great in technical terms. I gave up on following Romero’s work after his Argento collaboration Two Evil Eyes until somebody lent me Diary, which I thought was terrible.

    And anyone who bans people based upon their opinions about pop media is a big baby who deserves to get teased.

  • Popo Bawa

    That’s what I’m talking about!

    Are you looking for some craft ideas for the family this weekend? After this break we will be joined by none other than famous horror writer Clive Barker as he shows us how to construct a genuine homunculus, using only semen, feces, parchment, and some special incantations.

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  • Popo Bawa

    They call me Mr. Pibb!

    >sluuuurp<

  • Popo Bawa

    He’s bigly enough to be Preginant Trump!

  • Popo Bawa

    I think of Land as a sequel to Mario Bros.

  • Popo Bawa

    It’s not that social commentary is *inherently* juvenile, it’s just a lot harder to pull off something that makes sense as art/entertainment AND says something meaningful. Same reason why most songs are about vague nonsense.

    Galactica did quite well because their commentary was a take-it-or-leave it part of an otherwise great story. It still worked as television if you didn’t agree with the commentary, or even notice it. The writing won’t date badly in that respect either, a first-time viewer 20 years from now won’t feel like they are missing something without that IRL backstory.

    But LotD was terrible because the story made no sense and was only there to hand the hamfisted commentary off of. It is not true to its own movie logic because in the zombie apocalypse nobody is trapped into using money or serving rich people. Diary was, as Mike and Jay noted a commentary on social media by an old goat who didn’t understand it and was trying desperately to be current. And with the Star Wars prequels Jack mentions, the commentary in those sits like indigestion in an otherwise dull story with cringeworthy dialog. Just what kids want, a lecture on vagina sand to go with their tariff negotiations.

    With movies which do social commentary well, it fits organically, so it’s just another layer rather than something which jumps out and hits you like a bad 3D gimmick. You *can* think about it, but it isn’t saying “look at me” at the expense of being a solid movie.

  • Pulp

    It wont work without menstrual blood; it’s needed to enhance its evil powers.
    It also can’t hurt to add in some Rich and Jay semen, the outcome would be interesting …hmmm.

  • Pulp

    The Malleus Maleficarum ” Hammer of Witches” is supposed to be one of the most evil minded books ever written (at least according to feminists). The unguent excerpt may sound crazy, but it has an intriguing historical core. Just Google “The Gruesome History of Eating Corpses as Medicine”

  • RLMkeepitup

    ha, im sure many would like Hoskins to return one more time

  • EJ

    I unironically really like Waterworld, and 90% of the reason is Dennis Hopper’s character.

  • RLMkeepitup

    Arrival (1996) also deserves a Re:View as a perfect film. Sure it highlighted climate change as a hot topic long before it was cool to do so, but it also predicted Charlie Sheen’s willingness to become more than human to win. Drink every time Sheen cocks his head sideways (he’s adjusting the antenna)

  • instant relief

    I like internet video.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    thnx. sums up my opinion about interstellar. it kinda simulates smartness. just saw plotholes over and over which drove me nuts. weird dialouge and even weirder and nonsensical choices of the characters all along.

  • Jaws

    So ah what’s with the gun dude, oh I’m gonna shoot that there Zombie, but um isn’t it dead already.

  • bretweir

    You guys should do a re-view on Bram Stoker’s Dracula (1992). I just watched this on tv for the first time in many years and found it… interesting? Coppola gone off the rails or not? Curious what you guys think.

  • Cream-A-Thon

    What have you done with Max Landis’ body? We were promised an appearance and then yoink, nada, nothing. Also, if you have anything personal of his, something he touched and you want to make some money… hmu.

  • EJ

    Yeah people who should have known better got all wet about how “smart” Interstellar was. “This is the first movie ever to show relativistic time dilation inside the gravity well of a black hole!” Yeah, but the only reason they were near the black hole in the first place was because [SPOILERS] the aliens, who turned out to be far-future descendants of humanity, figured out the best way to get us out of a worldwide crisis where we couldn’t grow okra, and into space stations where humanity could survive and prosper, but we needed some specialized math to do that, was to build a wormhole near the orbit of Saturn that connected to a completely different freaking galaxy where the wormhole was, then kill several of us because BTW hanging out near a black hole is dangerous, then have Matthew Mconnahueydeweylouie fall into said black hole and send the math to his daughter via a magic watch. When clearly beings so advanced could have JUST TOLD US THE DAMN MATH EQUATION. Or just fixed the okra problem.

    Like that is literally the plot of the movie.

  • EJ

    But I liked its style, down to the details. Matty’s robot pal was great, both the way it looked and moved and also they did a good job with the uncanny valley with the way it spoke – human but just not quite. And subtly, how the two robots were hard to tell apart at first even though they had distinct personalities – they looked more or less identical and had very similar speech mannerisms, like AI robots probably made in the same factory probably would.

    I also really liked Evil Matt Damon – people made fun of his endless monologues but that’s totally what that character would do. Brilliant narcissist trapped on a shit planet by himself for a decade or so, of course he’s not gonna shut up when he finally has an audience. And the bit where he’s trying to dock with the spaceship just as he’s getting to the conclusion of his overblown self-justification, when suddenly the airlock explodes as he’s in mid-sentence and he immediately dies? That was genuinely brilliant comedy.

  • fred

    What — no one cares about that tripe, redlettermedia only reviews bland commercial films with big stars in outfits shouting witty banter and punching each other. That way they can complain about how boring and predicatable Hollywood is. It’s a great format for the snotty Youtuber demographic! We expect great things from the uptake in Patreon subscribers…great things.

  • Malevolence

    But they could make comments about how Hawkeye’s acting was off the mark more alien probe-ing questions….. would be a missed opportunity

  • Pulp

    Oh yeah, if you read up European popular beliefs/traditional-medicine you will quickly realize that in good old Europe the living wanted to eat up the dead.
    Them American movies got it all wrong.

    In case someone can read German, Wiki following terms; Totenhand, Menschenfett, Mumia, Cranium humanum and Waffensalbe.

  • Since I know you guys are just clamoring for fan suggestions, let me throw Arachnophobia into the ring. There’s a forgotten classic.

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