Jack and Jill |

Pizza&MargaritaShooters

It might be a little excessive to stretch a panning review of a movie out for forty minutes, it’s pretty much half a commentary track. I mean, its probably better to either have an airing of grievances that only takes 10-15 minutes at most, or to do just give it the full MST3K treatment.

That being said, I watched the whole thing, and find some of the points raised here to be interesting, its just that 40 minutes is a hell of a lot more time than I ever thought that I’d invest in even thinking about Jack & Jill.

Richter Belmont

How about checking the running time next time, and if you’re not patient enough to watch it, then watch another review of it?

Skezell

Another standard Adam Sandler is using popular songs from the 70s and 80s in the hopes that the nostalgia sparked by those songs will cover up the colossal turd of a movie.

Strelnikov

I think this review should be sent to the various film studios with an attached note stating “the jig is up.”

Adam Sandler should never be allowed to make another movie ever because this “film” was such an exercise in double-dipping; he got checks from the corporations for featuring their products, he got his friends paychecks, he got his motherfuckin’ $20 mil fee. I wonder if he learned all that scamming when he became a Republican or he had some agent of other guru teach him how to screw with things in the fine print.

And to all the complainers; this movie was so transparently a moneygrab, Mike and Jay HAD to spend an extra 20 minutes ripping the shit out of it, laying out the corporate connections, and all the other nonsense that went into “Jack & Jill.” Having the Razzies rip the “film” as a film wasn’t good enough, you have to follow the money too.

Finally, a copy of the review should be sent to the IRS; they would probably be very interested.

infernocanuck

I got bad news for you. Many a Democrat has also used unfair, unethical and scandalous business practices to make money. Greed isn’t tied to a political party, it’s tied to a very common personality flaw.
http://www.facebook.com/roger.abramson Roger Abramson

Now that you mention the fine print of the deal, who retained the merchandising rights? Can I buy a Katie Holmes doll who does everything Katie Holmes does in the movie?
- Strelnikov
  
  Ha-ha, you wiseacre….unlike George Lucas, Adam Sandler doesn’t need to make any money on merchandizing – it’s all upfront with him.

Masterkaga

I think we need to start referring to him as Adam SCAM’Dler. Seriously. This is a new low for cinema.

R_ocolet

Fuck Hollywood and fuck Coca-Cola.

zero_miles_per_hour

Fuck you, Coca Cola is delicious.
- Spencer greff
  
  Taste isn’t what he’s hating on.
  - Jim Campbell
    
    Who says he’s hating? I tend to like what I fuck.
http://twitter.com/Dekolonize Dekolonize

That is one way to put is yes
http://www.facebook.com/roger.abramson Roger Abramson

You don’t fuck Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola fucks you. (Seriously. Just ask your dentist or general practicioner. Sodas are roughly as healthy as the smooth, refreshing flavor of that relaxing country cigarette.)

Weavdog53

how could they see the film but not pay to see it????

Moxie

I’d assume they saw it at a press screening. Film studios invite professional film journalists to special showings of films called “press screenings” where they get to watch the film for free so that they can write their reviews of it. The studios do this in the hopes that having their films talked and written about by critics will encourage viewers to go see the film when it is released in theaters.
- The Truth
  
  If I were them Id movie hop at a megaplex. Buy a ticket for a movie you
  want to support and when its over you hop to other movies that you’d
  never ever pay to see. Fill your bag with a water bottle of vodka, a few
  redbulls, and some snacks and make a full day of it with your best
  friend! Your not stealing anything, just taking up another empty seat
  for a shitty movie that no one is seeing. With how many movies they see I’d bet money the guys do it too.

Ascension

I think it’s hilarious you guys bitch about product placement when you have a shit ton of beer bottles set up. For some reason you need lots and lots of beer bottles spread about for no reason. You guys are hypocrites!

Guest

Most of the bottles don’t face towards the camera. And what beer company would like to write some paychecks for a probably not THAT successful internet movie review show? Did you expect the HITB-guys to remove all the labels from the bottles?
Guest

Um…you have no clue what product placement is, do you?
Truth

Name the name of the beer, do it. If you can’t it wont work as a commercial.

I’ll tell you the name. It’s Spotted Cow and I only know that is because it’s a locally brewed beer in Wisconsin and I’ve seen it.

DeepthroatGhoul

It makes plenty of sense to me. Jack & Jill is just pure crap, it’s a quick buck, who cares if it’s shit or not…
No big loss for Al Pacino, who just does a little acting for a piss-poor
movie, gets a nice pay check out of it, then moves on and pretends it never happened.
On a side note, I’ve got a list of Top 10 Movies Which Are Better Than Jack & Jill:
10.Superman 3
9.RoboCop 3
8.Inspector Gadget
7.Police Academy 7
6.Jingle All The Way
5.Last Action Hero
4.Space Jam
3.The Flintstones
2.Cars 2
1.Turbo: A Power Rangers Movie

Scott Poston

This was really well cut. Nice use of a 3 cam setup. Nice L-cuts. Also like the personas! Good job guys! Obviously you put more thought into this than AS did for Jack and Jill!

Rob

This is featured on Roger Ebert’s official website. Congrats (I think)

forrest

The only part I disagreed with was that it was unrealistic for everyone not to be using Apple products. The businesses I’ve worked for have used PCs, and most of my friends use PCs. It’s seems pretty normal to me.

ex1lepr0

But the purpose of pointing that out was to show how Adam Sandler was using Sony products to advertise.
cdoublejj

I think they were also knocking movies that bump apple products all the time too.
http://www.facebook.com/jason.hockridge.50 Jason Hockridge

Also my office uses Dell stuff. Offices would use stuff like that or cheap unknown brands. Sony PC stuff is overpriced and any business would be stupid to pay out for them. Also Macs are favoured for design and an advertising agency (where Sandler works in this movie) would need a Mac, ipad and iphone to easily create digital/print ads and also to check how they look.
- Jim Campbell
  
  Industries that call their pros “creatives” tend to be very Mac-oriented. For many years (and some would say currently) all the usable video and audio editing suites were written for Mac, and attempting to do the same things on a PC was a @#$*%*^ nightmare. So Mike’s firsthand experience of computing may be overwhelming Mac-centric.

http://www.facebook.com/marcus.harbaugh Marcus Harbaugh

I never saw the movie, but there was one joke in the trailer that was funny, but then they ruined it. When the little kid punches Jill and Jack says “You know, I did feel something…” THAT’S a funny line. But then he completey ruins it by saying “Pride in my son.”

zero_miles_per_hour

There’s a joke like that in Meet The Spartans. It happens after the bit where Leonidas screams “this is Sparta” and kicks a bunch of celebrities and memes into the pit from 300. So he presses a button on a nearby wall and there’s a sound like a garbage disposal. A funny joke! But then there’s an actual shot afterwards of all the people inside the pit spinning around or something, and the joke is completely ruined.
- Richter Belmont
  
  Meet the Spartans is a terrible movie due to the jokes being bad.

nkutz

This review is just revolutionary.

SnowBall

When Nintendo came there was only Nintendo
Yeah some mega or commodore, but not really like Nintendo, it paved the way.
You’r argument fails on fact checking

adamsandlersmum

Hey, assholes…why did you recommend this shitty fucking movie for everyone to watch? I rented it on DVD on your say so and it was a lousy piece of shit. I am never taking advice on movies from you retards again!

http://twitter.com/Dekolonize Dekolonize

One of the best and most honest reviews I have ever seen! Thank you so much for saying this out loud.
Movies that goes into this directions sems to grow every year that passes.

Jesus Christ

Fuck Scientology

VonBrewskie

As one of the guys who grew up in the early 90s watching and loving Adam Sandler’s films, I have to say I disagree with some of your points. I too, hate his new stuff and think it’s lazy as hell and boring. One exception though. I actually really liked That’s My Boy because it reminded me of being 12-19 years old. That was fun. I shared these movies with a lot of my friends in the old days. Everyone’s married and working now. It was great to get together again for a couple of hours and laugh our asses off. Guess I’ve become the punchline. Fuck.

Dick and fart jokes? You guys can’t appreciate a good dick or fart joke? No? OK. I mean, we’ll just have to agree to disagree there. I like stupid humor, but I think we have different definitions of what stupid humor is. I’m sure you could talk me under the table about what stupid humor actually is, and I would be greatly honored to hear your opinion on that or any other subject. I really like what you guys do here. It’s brilliant and hilarious.

I don’t think Adam Sandler is even in the same universe of humor as you guys. I’m not trying to pole ride, (well, maybe a little). I get different kinds of laughs from your humor and his humor. My brain shuts down for Sandler. I like that sometimes. My brain kicks up when I listen to your reviews, or re-watch the Star Wars prequel reviews. I prefer your humor because I don’t get tired of it, but I genuinely love That old Sandler magic. I’d be lying if I said otherwise. You guys pointed out early in the review the majority of Sandler’s fans fall into this category of people who love his early work and hate his later stuff. I totally agree. That’s it. I agree. It was work back in the day. It’s lazy stuff now.

I don’t know if Adam Sandler is actually as sinister a fraud as your review implies though. Part of me wants to believe that Sandler is employing his friends to take care of them, is never forgetting where he came from and is a genuine good person. The other part is extremely wary that this could just be a cheap ploy for sentimentality in real life. I also have worked for a major corporation for the last eight years. The phrases “market shift” and “mutual profit lines” and bullshit like that were running through my head as I watched your review. Like you said, this was a balled up wad of marketing kicked in peoples faces. I knew the thing was going to be a POS, but this truly was a bold shit to take on people. I had no idea either.

Is it sinister though? Ah, well, while the execs will surely eat well, I’m sure some lower level production guys and at least like, carpenters or electricians got paid. Ha! That’s horseshit though huh? That makes the movie just an object to drill dickholes in, doesn’t it? Do these corporate sex artifacts make money for a studio so it can support smaller films ever? I thought that’s what studios like Miramax and Fox Searchlight were supposed to be. Is it art? No. I don’t think so at least. I don’t know if that’s a terrible, insidious thing though. I certainly feel no less naive than I did before. Maybe that’s a problem in and of itself.

Thanks for the perspective and hard work guys. I truly enjoy what you all do. Every one of your cast members too. You guys look and act like you’re having a great time! Holy shit I started to rhyme. Yeah. Much love.

-JaytothaRizzleohtothaDizzle

Guest

I think the documentary interviews with the real twins is a concept lifted directly from When Harry Met Sally, which has footage of old couples explaining how they met. They are also a time filler.

http://www.facebook.com/thomas.manson Thomas Manson

When you drank the Pepto, you really should have looked directly at the camera while presenting, a la Wayne’s World.

Charles Cooper

Spot on with the product placement, but insinuating that everyone uses a Mac and not a Windows machine is pretty naive. IS THAT A PRODUCT PLACEMENT.

merzer

I actually felt dirty after watching this. And that’s just the review of the film. I am thoroughly mind-fucked.

http://www.facebook.com/sebanisu Robert Russell

I saw “don’t mess with the zohan” and I was really turned off from Adam Sandler after that. I feel similar about Eddy Murphy these days. I liked Click though. Click had alot of good parts to it, It wasn’t all cheap lazyness. Well maybe alittle bit. But aleast Click was atleast enjoyable. Great review and a great lesson.

quippley

you guys should remember most of us don’t know movie making jargon, like ‘above the line’ or ‘adr.’ remember we’re stupid, so please explain that stuff to us. thanks.

Eduardo Spaceman

Lost it when Fake Plinkett calls his twin sister ‘cunt’.

http://twitter.com/GustavStieglitz Gustav Stieglitz

This is art. Somebody gives you an incomprehensibly lazy movie and you turn it into a sort-of-political statement about Hollywood, exploitation and media in general.

http://twitter.com/farfromsleep Jay Griffin

And of course Dana Carvey turns up in Jack & Jill for an easy paycheck. Eurgh.

Jim Campbell

Well, Garth is an idealistic character, while Carvey is a guy with bills to pay.

Hunter_Tompson

You ARE a guest.

Dustin Storniolo

2:55

What really concerns me is the audience rating… 55%. REALLY?

Amesoeurs

I just now noticed that, for absolutely no reason, the trailer also has that shot of the American Airlines signs. So now we’ve reached a point where our commercials have commercials. I feel like I’m watching Adam Sandler’s version of Inception.

Jim Campbell

Or past that, where the word “commercials” loses its meaning. If the film itself is advertising, its trailer isn’t even the same thing as a trailer for a real movie. Once the level of artistic content reaches zero, you might as well leaf through a J.Crew catalog. It’s just as likely to be edifying.

Jakoporeeno

Sandler has sold out more than George Lucas!

http://www.facebook.com/Guyzo997 Andrew Brown

lol they mention Russian Terminator in this episode and like two years later they watched it!!!!!1

http://www.facebook.com/mark.longden Mark Longden

I know I’m not the first person to say this, but this is seriously a fantastic piece of film journalism, and has done more to expose the awful parts of the business than any number of “real”, “paid” journalists.

sallywoodpecker@yahoo.com

you ppl are dumb how much money do u guys make for the things you do, dont tell me you wouldnt make a movie for money because you need it, maybe he needs money for his family did you ever think he is having a hard time and will take a role to make sure his family has a life, how is he a scam, he didnt do shit to scam you, you saw the previews, you spent your money get over it serioulsy, adam has spent yrs making awesome movies making us laugh our fucking asses off, every one has a bad time in life, i liked the movie it could of been better but o well, he did his job, dam you ppl spend loads on my on ppl like brittney spears or linsdey lo han, but you put down a man and call him a scamover a movie you saw in a preview and didnt like it and try to destory his life, its not like he is a terriorst, or kiled someone, or hurt a kid, i wish u guys would spend more time on ppl like thator your selfs, i give props to actors that do roles that dont mean shit at least thier working and trying to support them selves andfamily instead of buming off other people, and adam is a great person and no i havent ment him but behind the scens and how many friends he has and the scence of humor, get over your selfs i would like to see youpeople do a better job then him but you cant can you all u can do is waste your life putting down ppl wooow and all i wanted to do was look up that cute saying that the lil oy said in the movie when people lied

sallywoodpecker@yahoo.com

and maybe he mde this movie to help his feloow frends who have a hard time getting roles look at the movies he just made like thats my boy or grown up i loved them his old work is better but ppl get old
Losing All Hope Was Freedom

There are a number of problems with your argument. Primarily, these guys are FILM REVIEWERS. They are not terrorist reviewers. Arguing that Adam Sandler is better than a terrorist or murderer is ridiculous. Secondly, $20,000,000 is not the sort of money anyone NEEDS to support their family, that is also ridiculous. Thirdly, nobody is trying to destroy his life, they are merely suggesting he needs to put more effort into his work. The whole point is Adam could have made a great movie but chose not to because it was easy.

DrRed

Hey McDonalds, throw some money in my direction! I write you something better while masturbating. And these two guys too, give it to them.

http://www.facebook.com/treknologist Clifford T. Hall

I just watched Jack and Jill. And I think you are unnecessarily harsh on what is a very silly and low-brow comedy. Yes, there is a lot of product placement, but the film never literally stops for commercial. Yes, the budget does seem quite a bit high considering there should have been a lot of sponsorship from this placement. But, there are a few very expensive over the top CGI gags (jet ski in a swimming pool, breaking pony legs, ). Moreover, what film has ever actually shot at fully-staged professional sporting event? Maybe the wrestling at the beginning of Highlander, but I can’t think of anything recent in the age of CGI. You say “cheap-looking”. I say this is the standard cinematographic high-key style for the 90 minute comedy film.

Jim Campbell

The Town? Big shootout at Fenway Park, iirc.
http://twitter.com/egfraz Liz Frazier

The hockey scene in Lethal Weapon 3. Not exactly recent, but very well done.

Ben

The budget is 50 MILLION, not 5. A little off

jic1

The budget for what is $50M? Certainly not *Super*, and we all know that *Jack and Jill* cost more than that.

Jim Campbell

The budget for HitB is 100% below the line.

Scotto

Dear Video Reviewers,

I know it was just one little comment, but since your whole thing is to go uber film nerd on everyone, let me go computer nerd for a second:

Praising Apple at the expense of “PCs” is the computer equivalent of saying that Michael Bay is the ultimate film maker because his visuals are so nice and nifty. (Geez, I hope I got that analogy right).

There is nothing inside of a Mac that is not also inside a “PC”. Macs are “PCs”. They just have a shiny brushed-aluminum facade and a price tag that’s $500 more.

Steve Jobs never actually invented anything. He’s great at industrial design. Not computers. He was also a vegetarian and a social retard. (You can check the facts of that out for yourself).

But I guess you guys produce videos, so you cut your reviews with what? Garage Band? It must be that. Do you use Adobe products? You can get a “PC” that’s far more powerful than a Mac for the same money. Adobe products will run on it just fine.

Maybe you’ve heard of Avid? I suppose their products are shit, because I don’t know. But they’ve been PC-based since the dawn of time. I suppose you probably hate them because they don’t clad everything in brushed aluminum.

All the great CG effects of the past 20 years? I mean the really good ones. SGI, Sun, and various Intel-based non-Mac clusters and workstations did those.

Now, I get it. You’re film guys. If your computer breaks, you need to take your industrial-designed laptop to an industrial-designed store to have a “genius” examine it because you have no hope of fixing it yourself. (Except the genius is someone that can’t get a real job in the computer industry and has to spend all day fake-smiling at people that know even less about computers than they do). But he’s a “genius”, and that’s what you’re forced to call him (or her), and you just can’t do without a certain level of artistic pretension or you wouldn’t be into “Film”.

So I get it. If you show up at a film-convention or film-extravaganza with a “PC”, then all the other film guys will take time away from discussing Paul Thomas Anderson and Rosebud to laugh at you, their Adam’s apples bobbing under their turtle necks. You’ll never be taken seriously as a pretentious asshole, and your film career will go nowhere. It’s not fair, but it’s the way the world works.

But, you guys have probably had to scrounge money to make videos and take pride in your craft. If you gave your hard-won cash to Steve Jobs’ ghost instead of spending it on props, lighting, lens filters, and costumes, then you might as well have paid to see that Sandler film. While you’re at it, I hear that Norm McDonald is looking for work. I’m sure he’d be happy to do a cameo as a customer in the ol’ VCR repair shop!

http://www.facebook.com/bahareh.khosravi.5 Bahareh Khosravi

If anyone knows the music for the product placement part (part 2, 7:00) could you tell me what it is? Many thanks!

http://www.facebook.com/roger.abramson Roger Abramson

Cool. Lots of people want to know how to get their movies financed, and this review gives the film student some valuable clues to get their passion projects off the ground. You can learn as much about show business as you’ll learn from Morgan Spurlock’s `Greatest Move Ever Sold’, where a neophite documents his difficulty in landing product placement deals to finance his film. How did Sandler’s production side-step such difficulties? Now you know. This could be a valuable companion piece to Spurlock’s work… especially for aspiring producers who want to learn the game of getting their passion projects financed. The movie ‘Idiocracy,’ lampoons wall-to-wall product placement, but this is the only time I’ve seen someone connect these particular dots for me. All the creativity for this project seems to have gone into leveraging the marketing needs of the distribution company and its partners, their products, and forcing participation of media companies …a creative solution to get and keep the ball rolling, while worthy but less commercial productions languish on the sidelines for years. Jack and Jill also kept critics in the dark until the last minute, resulting in critics’ reviews being delayed by as much as a week after the film’s release. Convenient.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Rob-OKid/100002246674446 Rob O’Kid

The production budget for The Terminator was $6.4 million, Terminator 2 was $102 million, Jack and Jill was $79 million, so about 12 times as much as The Terminator. Most of the effects in The Terminator are dated now, but for a movie that old and with a rather small budget the effects still doesn’t come across as laughable and the movie is still fantastic. You’d think that at least the pony effect in Jack and Jill would look better than something you can find on newgrounds animated by a 13 year old. This is just depressing.

I have seen plenty of MST3K stinkers that I would much rather rewatch than having to endure an Adam Sandler movie, because at least they were trying to create something. While Space Mutiny wasn’t at comedy, nor a good movie, it still made me laugh and I had a good time, while Adam Sandlers comedies bizarrely are a tragic tale of greed and gullibility.

This was a brilliant episode and I thank you guys for it!

By the way, what is your average cost pr. episode of Half in the Bag?

http://twitter.com/GrantElicious Grant Butler

Just go with it was funny and I could stand Grown Ups, however most of the other stuff he does now is crap.