Mike and Jay discuss the Netflix series Stranger Things, the first and last TV series to ever be discussed on Half in the Bag! OMG!
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Way to gloss over that whole cellphone fiasco, you frauds.
Oh, it also appears that I was first!
I liked redlettermedia before it was cool. Star Trek Generations review specifically. Legit RLM hipster.
Fuck TV shows! Where’s my Doctor Strange review?
a TV Show????? LOOK AT YA EXPANDIN’
Well, I guess I’ll clear my schedule and watch these frauds talk about stuff. By clearing my schedule I mean that I have no life.
I personally cannot wait for their Justified review.
Is this gonna replace a Night Court review?
Who’s watching the Bongo renting service?
I loved Zack Snyder’s comic book film, Bongo Renting Servicemen!
Bongo? What a stupid name! You know what, I like the new Rogue One trailer from now on. A+
Still waiting on the extended cut to give it some much needed context.
Everything from this show was pilfered from your favorite 70s or 80s movie. I thought you guys said “nostalgia was dead” in the Pixels review?
Casual. True fans were here before RLM existed and it was GMP and Blanc Screen
“it had to be done in a simpler time” Let me translate that for you “it had to be done pre-9/11”
I haven’t watched the video yet, but am posting anyway in an effort to fill the soul-crushing void that is my daily life.
This isn’t a moopie. You guys are so dumb.
1. Jay´s comments about Winona Ryder´s performance makes me wonder, if he´s ever met a manic person. Constant fear doesn´t dissolve so easily.
2. Yes, Millie Bobby Brown is outstanding as Eleven. She´s completely believable as a fish-out-of-water traumatized kid, which is quite an amazing feat.
i called the number! thena brian picked up and i hung up because it wasnt rich 🙁
My thought on the Nancy/Steve/Jonathon-battle-the-monster sub-plot is that it gives Hopper and Joyce a chance to get through the Upside/Down unhindered. The teens fight the monster and the adults hunt for Will.
80s nostalgia can eat my asshole.
11:30 You’re not alone, Jay. Not at all.
LOL Jay and Mike, you f**ing geniuses… I don’t know if I’m the first one, but I’ve found your “easter egg” 😀 That’s hilarious, I knew I had to try and I’ve been rewarded (seriously, do I get some kind of reward?).
I think the difference between homage and rip-off is the quality of the execution. In this case it was backed by good acting, fitting music and an engaging story. It’s pretty easy to see another version of this show where it lacked one of those elements and became obnoxious garbage, mining the past to prop itself up. As it is it frankly felt like something that could have been made in the 80s, which I think is exactly what is was trying to do.
I was also disappointed by the monster. Mostly because when we first get a good look at it, it had this kind of slender man look to it which was nice. But then it just turned into a ravenous beast so you really didn’t care why it was doing anything. It could have been a bear in the woods for all the difference it would have made.
Yeah I’m very wary about season 2. They’ve said it will take place 1 year (story wise) after this one. I guess will find out next year.
She is terrible.
Alf is haunting Eliot now
Hey, I wanted to make that obscure reference that 99.9% people here won’t get!
Remember Rutherford B. Hayes?
So since you are reviewing Stranger Things, I think it is safe to assume that we can disquss shows here again, which is great, because I saw Batman vs. Superman Ultimate Cut and it sucked.
I also saw Civil War (the actual theatrical cut because Disney ain’t no hacks) and it wasn’t bad. Recommended.
I binge this show from Midnight to dawn just for this review, pretty great but not as amazing as Attack the Block and Gravity Falls
But as a Netflix fan, it’s one of favs Netflix shows, my favorite is Bojack Horseman
Please review Laika’s Kubo later
The monster was mostly guy-in-suit and puppetry.
Hopper is the anti-Walter White. While WW was a villain who hadn’t had a chance to be evil, Hopper was a hero who hadn’t had a chance to be heroic.
Do you think the monster’s attacks will be justified in a way? Maybe it is a mother trying to feed it’s children…
(P.S.: I write in broken English, it is not my first language.)
He’s back, in pog form
true about the monster but all that work was botched with the mediocre resident evil one Licker CG version showed up for the wider shots and action shots and looked… well just like i said before.
Fucing? Facing? Faping?
You forgot to ask them to review an animate-
*Stops to Google Laika’s Kubo*
Ah, very well then. I see you didn’t give up.
I think that under the skin was imitating 70’s horror, and to call it a rip off used elsewhere I think is not valid.
I agree, Jay. Winona Ryder’s character was very grating most of the time. Eleven was absolutely great which is weird because child actors are the worst.
Re: Plagiarism – Ehhh, regular people who like movies, call stealing shots plagiarism. Or stealing the looks of a scene as plagiarism. But not people who know more than regular people who like movies. So way to make it weird.
In a hypothetical Season 2, I’m hoping for something new (a Differenter Thing) involving the same town and the same characters. Not much else to explore in the Upside Down except to explain every detail and retroactively ruin it.
I’m breaking from the Winona Ryder dislike. Maybe she’s a little unhinged, but I thought she played that character perfectly appropriately. Maybe that’s because I’m a parent and can empathize with the panic and desperation when your kid is missing.
I’d find the argument a little more meaningful if anyone actually had successfully adapted one of King Steve’s horror stories to the screen before, or so many others hadn’t tried and failed.
The kid coughed up a creature at the end of the show. The Creature will create a scenario based off of another one of their DnD adventures.
It’s pronounced ‘omage’. The ‘h’ is silent, you omo.
i don’t know why but it fills me with great joy that that webzone exists
Wayward Pines was way, way better than this, and at least they had the common sense to not do a second sea ….
Well its clearly pulling an “Alien” as we found out in the last minute of the show. But it just would be nice if it was more than just some alien dog that only wants to eat and fuck.
When I wrote that, I noticed I’ve only used two asterisks. Then, I asked myself if I needed to edit the message and add one more. I’ve quickly come to the conclusion that nobody in his right mind would’ve cared at all. I’ve underestimated the RLM fanbase. Now I’ve wasted five minutes of my life writing this reply (my english isn’t that great). Thank you tOmy’.
that’s what I was hoping for. That the show would maybe jump forward several years and start a new mystery/adventure. But with their statement of just a one year gap, because the kids are growing older in real life, I think its just going to pick up right where it left off. Which sounds like it will be a repeat of monster fighting and saving 11 instead of friend #4 from the Upside Down. Have a hard time seeing that as being as much fun the second time around. Hopefully I’m wrong.
Now we know Jay and Mike work a grand total of three hours a week. Plus one hour turnsday, whatever that is.
She is perfect.
I think its during the month of Smarch.
Damn, really cranking out the content lately. Nice job. I’m also a fan of reviewing stuff that’s not fucking superhero movies.
Have to do something to combat that lousy weather.
SPOILERS: The website works.
I hope they go full Lovecraft then. The monster as an appendix of a Grest Old One that is trying to enter our universe.
On the money with Winona. Way, way over the top all of the time. She needs to take some of that Netflix money and invest in some acting lessons.
Stranger Things is a melange of artistic styles, ideas and concepts, but it’s the most interesting one I’ve seen in over a decade. This has been done before, but by comparison, very poorly.
The first and last TV series to ever be discussed on HitB should’ve been Utopia.
You guys done fucked up.
not just that but the 800 number takes you to a survey + free cruise offer and then a call center in india
That’s what Facebook was invented for! 😀
Maybe I’m being naive, but were they joking or serious when they said in the last 60 seconds of the Suicide Squad review that they were being sponsored by Netflix for this Stranger Things review? I mean, their criticisms of Stranger Things were uncharacteristically mild for RLM, and the review format itself was unusual for not having any wrap-around at the beginning… Also Mike’s “Go see it… if you have nothing better to do…” sounded to me like he was treading a fine line between fulfilling the expectation of the sponsor but not wanting to sound like a hack.
Since when were the 80s a simpler time? Reagan -> crack, aids, child abduction, secret illegal wars in south america, homelessness…
“We decided to split the new Half in the Bag episode up into two parts since each discussion is lengthy and we can get the Suicide Squad discussion out quicker that way. That one should hopefully be up soon! And the second part will be up later this week.”
This is from their Patreon.
Phew. But don’t try telling me Mr Plinkett’s “Kodak Challenge” wasn’t real either! And after I got back from that holiday he recommended to “North Korean holding cell awaiting public execution for espionage”.
Reviewing tv shows. HitB has jumped the shark. Again.
I thought Stranger Things was a spin off show to Parks and Rec focusing on Jean-Ralphio’s life before he became Jean-Ralphio?
Momma told me not to talk to strangers, or listen to their reviews. 🙁
Welcome to the family, buddy.
I’ll probably watch Stranger Things after I’m finished with Broadchurch, which is amazing in case you were wondering. David Tennant is incredible as usual. As far as I’m concerned he has never been in anything that wasn’t great after Dr Who, which was also pretty good during his tenure.
Jessica Jones in particular is really awesome. My other favourite Netflix series I watched this year is Luther, which is one of the most subversive and well written detective series I’ve ever seen.
I’m shocked Mike thinks OITNB is good. It’s mixed at best and the most recent series was enough to make me give up on the show altogether. I’m shocked that I sat through the whole fucking thing to be honest.
Bojack Horseman is great even if it is the biggest downer of a surreal cartoon comedy series ever made.
Thanks, I’m sure it’s gonna be great.
It’s gonna be great.
Hey, motherfuckers, I had an Evil Dead poster in the 80s. I also had a sweet sun-faded pink Dawn of the Dead poster.
In regards to Wynona Rider, I felt she played the part well. It’s not like she’s a typical mother who’s son went missing. She knows where he is, she just can’t get to him. As a parent, if I were in that situation, with my boy trapped in some fucked up alternate verse where I knew he was being hunted by something, I think I’d be pretty batshit off my rocker as well. I’m surprised she waited as long as she did to take that axe to the wall.
Totally agree about Winona Ryder. I found her really annoying for the most part but still enjoyed the show as a whole very much!
I’m with you on Winona Ryder, Jay. Never been a fan of her work and I thought she was easily the show’s weakest link. Loved literally everything else about it, though.
The music reminds me of the original X-com music
Stranger Things was mostly disappointing, but I’m also done with 80’s nostalgia, so can we fast forward to the horrible 90’s already?
I’ll rather watch Under the Skin for the 3rd time.
I had no problem with stuff like ‘The THING’ poster on the wall. The kids were clearly sci-fi and monster movie geeks, and we later see their teacher, who is a big influence on them, watching the movie. It stands to reason that he could have been the one that introduced them to it. If it had been on someone like Steve’s wall, then it would have felt out of place to me. Also, it’s not a Documentary. It’s a fictional world, and as such they should be given some creative license to envision it to their taste. I mean, logically there was no reason for there to be a Hills Have Eyes poster in the basement in EVIL DEAD, or for Nancy to be watching EVIL DEAD on TV in A Nightmare on Elm Street, but for the back-and-forth that Sam Raimi and Wes Craven had going on at the time. That stuffs just part of the genre, and of that era. The posters were just to give a little nod to the genre fans, and que them into what they were trying for with this show. What it’s influences were.
Can we skip the 90s? People are wearing those godawful pink, turquoise, neon yellow and matte grey (what a fucking combination) colors together as it is. Its fucking terrible and the fact that both kids and adults alike are wearing them is really confusing as someone who grew up during that time and hated that bullshit then. Now its swung back around to fuck with me further. Combine that with the weird hipster bullshit and now we just have multiple generations living in tragedy.
Hehe, my father and sister used to wear the shit outta this color combination. 25 years later, and here I am wearing light grey sneakers with neon yellow shoelaces. How the tables have turned.
You missed the biggest Stephen King film it “hommaged” which was Dreamcatcher.
I know, everybody wants to forget this movie happened, but even the villain is rocking the same cotton candy hairdo (including eyebrows).
Am I the only one who thinks that every time Winona Ryder is about to act out a scene that requires some level of intensity, her mouth gets really tiny right before she says something emotional? Like someone tells her that her son is dead or whatever.. *mouth gets tiny and quivery* “nnn..-n-nO. nO! NO!” I dunno… maybe it’s just me.
Woah, funny you should say that– the WEIRDEST fucking thing just happened: I had the tab for this video open from a few hours ago (randomly scrolled to your comment, here). For completely unrelated and more recent reasons, I was just reading about what Brits hate about the American accent… one of the big ones being that most Americans don’t pronounce the “h” in words like “herb”. I grew bored, noticed I still had this tab open, switched over– and voilà.
It does, upon further research, seem Mike is still incorrect regardless of dialect in this case, though. Regardless, still very strange. I wouldn’t normally share a moment like this, but it was so specifically synchronistic that I just had to. I was all, like, “no way!” man.
The kids were great with the exception of bland protagonist kid #1 who acted and looked like Shelley Duvall. His delivery was way too stiff, but he’s young and he wasn’t as bad as Winona.
I don’t know how, but they botched the practical effects even worse than The Thing prequel. I was convinced it was bad CGI, until I read otherwise. The bland design of the monster wasn’t a great help either.
My favorite Winona Ryder movie is 2010 The Year We Make Cumtact. She has no discernible dialog in it. I’m a horrible person.
We are in the 90s. In the Hip Hop world anyway. Idk what movies are doing right now
There were Evil Dead and Thing posters, you could get them from Starlog or Fangoria magazine.
I will concede that the ending was kind of an eh moment for me too. PaPa died it looked like, girl disappeared with the monster to get snacks in the woods delivered by the cop, and kid is possessed. Hard to see what comes next that wont be a pile of crap. Please prove me wrong!
Not one mention of JJ Abrams’ Super 8? Very similar influences, ET, Jaws, Goonies, etc. Very likely an inspiration for this series.
I DIDN’T watch the whole thing of (let alone ANY OF) “Stranger Things”… but I kept watching past the six minute mark of this video anyway! Tee-hee! I’m such a rebel! Tee-hee-hee!
I’m a pussy… I’m now at the 7:44 mark of this video, and I’ve been intrigued enough to actually start watching “Stranger Things” before continuing on with this HitB.
Why yes, little girl, I AM drunk! Very!
Civil War had a laughably bad plot mixed with really great action scenes. The picture of Bucky is really unconvincing and you can’t even tell its a person because they barely hold any shots on the photo, the building blowing up was a sort of non issue, and the fact that they remove the part of the government throwing a nuke into the middle of New York to stop aliens which was a CENTRAL PART of the Avengers ending so they can justify trying to limit the Avengers was a lot of stupid. It doesn’t make the film unwatchable, but it certainly reeks of “we need manufactured conflict, number one, get us there!”. That said, the airport fight was the best and I loved the new Spider Man and Ant Man was a personal favorite. I loved Rudd’s performance in Civil War that it got me to go watch Ant Man and be pleasantly surprised. I’m not a Marvel movie fan but Ant Man was great.
I think what Jay was implying, is that the kids wouldn’t have been fans of The THING because it was a critical and commercial flop at the time, and only began to develop an audience much later.
not necessarily a pile of crap- they have the potential to do more- it just rests in the execution.
The slug like thing can be an opening for the entire town to get sucked into that alternate dimension through the water supply- Eleven could be trapped between worlds, there is the aspect of the Sherif having to get involved with the government (or that agency) for whatever reason. It can go somewhere.
Whether or not they execute it right, take their time and write it correctly- that is entirely up to them.
It’s a fine line, that’s somewhat opaque. For instance, John Carpenter (or rather the rights holders suing in his name) just recently won a lawsuit against the movie Lockout for claims it plagiarized Escape From New York. However, Carpenter himself “homaged” quite a bit in his career, particularly from Howard Hawks, for which he isn’t shy to admit. Assault on Precinct 13 was essentially him making his modern (for the time) version of Rio Bravo. HalloweeN was heavily influenced by not only PSYCHO, for which Carpenter cast Jaime Lee because she was the daughter of Janet Leigh, but by Black Christmas as well. All creative people are inspired by something or other, but I think the difference is in intention. A ripoff is something that just tries to lazily profit off of the popularity of something else, whereas an homage is something that pays tribute in a respectful way while still managing to be it’s own thing.
I wonder if those same people that sued Lockout will be suing Suicide Squad for it’s obvious “homages” to Escape From New York?
Check your facts, plinkett
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Nice callback. I want my whatever that figurine from that BOTW episode was!
Next time you call, send my regards to Sheila.
tl;dr, but you still owe me a bottle of sake, fox.
You guys could probably get away with rambling about TV shows you like a bit more.
Peaky Blinders is good and it has Sam Niel in it!
Super8 sucks tho.
Yeah, I’ve known a few Brits. They like to pronounce the h so much they put it in words where it doesn’t belong. Like “huh-whipped cream”.
And any word that starts with h gets a -aich added to it, like Haich-Dee-Tee-Vee.
I don’t know if this helps further, but her involvement with missing children’s cases probably gave her a knowledge boost of how to act in these scenarios.
Starting with the Polly Klaas murder case, where she helped as part of the city search party, then creating her own foundation to help find missing children, she certainly didn’t have to do much research for the role of freaked out mom.
I don’t know why, but your Winona Ryder picture lineup ending with her shoplifting court photo made me laugh harder than I knew I could laugh at a review show.
As added doppelgangers beyond Nancy/Simone, the D&D leader looked like the kid in Bloody Birthday that got locked in the freezer, who was also in E.T.
The really disconnected dad also looked ridiculously like John Hughes, right down to the glasses.
I’m still on episode 2. I keep turning it on and after about five minutes of listening to little kid dialogue I realize I’d rather watch something else. I think I’m just gonna give it up.
I think the whole monster whose jaws open in some weird way/monster whose face is all teeth has been done so much recently (going back what … 10-20 years?) that it’s really not that surprising anymore. I admit I can’t name any examples off the top of my head, but it looked so familiar that I just shrugged when I saw it.
Well, at least you know you’re not a pedophile.
Welcome to the suck.
How kind of you to welcome me to the suck. Thank you, sir.
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I have the same problem, but only cuz I can’t reach my sneakers to change the shoelaces.
Money well spent.
It’s not like you can buy a new one.
From what I heard, everyone was cast based on how much they resembled 80’s hollywood stars and directors. Winona Ryder was apparently cast because she looked just like that girl from Beetlejuice.
About the acting, anybody else here thinks the black kid sucks or it’s just (racist!) me? First of all, I don’t think his character’s behaviour is particulary realistic – he’s way too serious and mature for his age – but most of all I found him boring as hell and a complete killjoy in every scene he was in. Also, his acting looks pretty wooden to me.
Yeah, she really looks like that girl. Whatever happened to that actress?
“Where does homage end and ripping-off begins?”
Well, to be quite honest here, I don’t think this show is either of those. I liked the “love letter to 80s” more. I have a feeling it wasn’t pitched as a project banking on 80s nostalgia, but more as a project to make an unique feeling show that will stand up amidst all the other brilliant programming of this year (and years before that and years to come).
It feels very thought through and carefully planned. And that’s what Netflix needs right now. AMC, FX and HBO seems to be still generating most of the hype and let’s be honest, their shows pretty much overshadowed Narcos that were, quite simply, great. Stranger Things needed to be this big thing that everyone will talk about. I think they nailed it, but part of me thinks it is due to the great marketing and exposure, rather than the overall quality. I mean, we are only in the first half of this year and there were already several “mic drops” of TV shows. And seeing the current programming, there is a lot more to come in the next half. A lot of it will probably obliterate Stranger Things on the quality level.
So I see this show as more of a buzz-generating art piece, rather than cynical banking on homages / rip-offs. (Hey, even Narcos have their fair share of “love letters to…”)
Now, speaking of Season 2:
I absolutely loved several twists on your classic tropes and formulas (Steve was pretty much a surprising highlight) and that goes twice for the ending. So when I finished the show, I quickly looked up Netflix’s statement.
This was like 3 weeks ago. They pretty much said that they don’t know what’s in the store for Stranger Things and that they want to let the show “breath” for a bit. Couple of days after Netflix greenlit Season 2 and I pointed my middlefinger at the screen.
It is stupid. I would rather see them either going for a brand new story or a brand new time period. Not a continuation of this story. I think it is gonna ruin a lot of good things about Season 1 and I am afraid it’s gonna tank this show. Show some restrain, Netflix!
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Went to prison for theft. Last time I saw her she was in a psychiatric ward with Brittany Murphy. Very sad.
Also, the music cheerleader in me can’t gloss over that:
Technically, the score for Stranger Things isn’t about mimicking classic scores from 80s. It is its own genre. This is a dance music made by producers and DJs.
You see, back in 00s when US was desperately trying to murder everything good about music, especially electro, Germany, France and Northern Europe tried different approach, meaning actually doing something good. In the mid of 00s, French scene came up with Synthwave (Kavinsky, anyone? No?). While influenced by 80s movie scores, it is not a score music, it is a dance genre.
The 90s are more exciting to me as a topic for nostalgia than the 80s seeing as I actually lived through the 90s.
Come on, 90s grunge is so much more tolerable that 80s new wave.
Yeah the part with Steve made me cheer at the screen.
Compared to the toothless kid I think he was a bit lackluster, but he was fine overall i thought. I wasn’t bothered by his performance, but thinking back I can kind of see what you mean.
That had not crossed my mind but I totally see what you mean.
It’s borderline annoying at first, I was not hooked before 4th episode. I would recommend it, but you really need to see all episodes to appreciate it.
Of course, it’s over hyped as things usually are these days so better adjust expectations.
I fucking loved how he jumped over the bear trap.
I don’t get the love for this show. It’s just nostalgia and callbacks to other films. Add in the suddenly hip 80s setting and synth vibe. Just listen to how people describe the show. Is it awful? No. Is it good? Not really. It’s just watchable. I like it the same way I do Stephen King miniseries.
LameSame will no longer surrender his viewing and our comments, to the false song of Spoilers.
Kind of bummed the Lightningfastvcrrepair dot com site they made didn’t have a hidden spot to watch The Force Awakens Review. ON VHS. ONLINE. O_o
To quote Jack Burton… “The check is in the mail.”
Meh. So if this basic cable 80’s Ipod mix track is worthy of review but the much better Utopia, (C4,UK) Glitch (ABC,aust) Mr Robot. (USA…usa) are ignored…? surely Mich and Jamessusan are not that stupid?
Meh its good but derivative. It does not deserve the hype.
Utopia is amazing.
Barely, I don’t like grunge and rarely listen to it on average. Because of its popularity it allowed for radio to open up and for popular radio to become more like college radio which is great. You had stuff like Sublime on air, or weird groups like Buffalo Daughter and Cornelius. It was a strange time when people accepted looking into music outside of the US (BD and Cornelius are from Japan) and outside of normal pop music. Sure Spears, Spice Girls, NSYNC and the like dominated during the 90’s, but they didn’t feel like the only choice.
tl:dr I hate grunge but it opened the door for less commercialy viable music to get popular.
I always love when someone older tells the young generation that expressing themselves through culture and clothing is a “weird hipster bullshit”.
Geee, what a time to be alive.
Out of curiosity, how old do you think I am?
Oh, ’twas mostly just a joke, really. Didn’t really think about it that much.
70s / 80s?
Live action anime
Haha no. Merely 28. I’ve been hating hipsters for a good 5 years though, so its not like I’m far removed from these people age wise. There are even people older than me with twirled mustaches wearing an endless amount of plaid combined with the grey, turquoise, etc. Its really mindboggling. The people who wore the plaid and torn pants damn sure didn’t wear what were essentially rich kid clothes. Seems strange to combine the throwbacks. I’m stuck living in a district in the Bay Area that is a magnet for these people, so I get to see all the varieties out and about so this isn’t just “lel hipster 4 teh dumb”, this is real life.
I was almost the same age as these kids in Stranger Things and I loved the Thing and Evil Dead. I read Fangoria, Epic, Heavy Metal, Cinefantastique, Starlog.
HBO let me see many wonderful things.
Though I never had a Thing, or Evil Dead poster I did have an ET poster among my Frank Frazetta and Boris Vallejo posters.
I think that if the show wanted some true realism, there would have been Iron Maiden ( maybe there are, I haven’t seen the show) and other rock posters on some of the kids walls.
TV nostalgia is never 100.00% correct.
Shaddup you green, wet-behind-the-ears shit-whip!
Go mow the lawn for some spending money…young fucks nowadays…..
So it seems to me (without watching the TV show) that this movie is actually nostalgia from the EARLY 80’s which was heavily influenced by the late 70’s vs this being a late 80’s nostalgia which would not have been the same.
the 80’s was a looong 10 years, and the late 80’s were kind of bland and already stale concerning movies.
So to me this TV show really seems to capture the late 70’s atmosphere.
Not watched the review yet. Gotta say I think its like a needy girlfiend with its constant references. Lacks actually content.
R.I.P. R2-D2. Kenny Baker has passed on…
The can will never be the same.
They really opened Pandora’s Box with this review.
“But why can’t you review the TV show I like?”
– Some guy.
– or girl.
It’s 3:39 on a Saturday. I don’t need Tumblr on my ass.
“I’m Jay” “And I’m Mike” “And we just spent the last 50 hours watching Game of Thrones. What did you think, Mike?” “It sucked!” “Thanks for watching Half in the Bag.”
“When does it cease to be homage and start being a rip-off?” -my thread title over at IMDB
“Where does homage end and ripping off begin?” -Jay Bauman
Great minds, Mr. Bauman…
They should do a tribute to Kenny Baker.
Yeah, it’d probably be more accurate to say that late 70s/80s film scores were stealing (inspired!) by contemporary electronic music (Giorgio Moroder, etc), and now Survive’s Stranger Things soundtrack – along with Synthwave/Outrun in general – is just going back to that genre and picking up where it left off. The reason that the soundtrack is so good is exactly because, as you say, it’s not mimicking – it’s the real thing.
Didn’t you notice the tuna can strategically placed in the background?
but you can find a lot of ass on tumblr
Everyone’s hung-up on this homage/rip-off stuff. Guess what? A really good reproduction of things I like, is also something I like. And this is more than that, I’d say. While I won’t go so far as to say it one-ups Spielberg or John Carpenter, it’s certainly better than 90 percent of the Stephen King horror adaptations committed to film thus far. I had a blast watching this show.
I think I first suggested they boys start reviewing relevant television shows and therefore should get a producers credit for the show. I’d also accept changing the name to “Cream in the Bag”, “Cream Rec”, “Best of the Cream”, or “CreAIIIIIIIIIIIIIDS”.
Look, all I am asking for is a Plinkett review for each individual season of Justified.
HOW HARD CAN IT BE?!
YOU JUST DAMNED MY COMMENT TO BANHAMMER HELL.
But can they fix my pokemon machine?
I’m curious what they think of “Sausage Party” considering they made a similar film “Oranges : Revenge of the Eggplant”
A TV show review was very welcom and nice Tangerine Dream mention
My local video rental store has two films called Hidden, which are are last year’s movie and a 2009 Norwegian horror film. They also have The Hidden from 1987 with Kyle MacLachlan. I’ll definitely be watching all three over the next couple of weeks.
Fuck that guy.
*Best TV show of the year*
Meh, I don’t get it. It has 80s stuff in it, it’s so derivative. Did I mention I’m cool and I use cool art words like derivative. That’s how you can tell I’m something of a sophisticate, who doesn’t like all this mass entertainment for common people. Rubik’s Cube.
It’s probably gonna be me.
I thought she looked more like that chick from Lucas.
My penis is very small.
It’s just an oversized clit and you are living as transgender like Chaz Bono
That just gave me the weirdest clit bono.
Turnsday looks like a real bitch of a shift. Good thing I don’t work there.
Tom Hardy also has a small penis. (unless that one in Bronson is cg)
Maybe he’s a grower not a shower.
I think I want a breast enlargement.
I do not know what that means.
Small then tall…
I could show you..
Liza Minnelli with the Pet Shop Boys is awesome!
I always work on Mondays, Tuesdays, Fridays and Turnsdays. It’s like fate doesn’t want my VCR to be fixed. Can’t you guys open shop on sunday between 11 and 12 pm?
Stranger Things is not bad but can’t hold a candle to Night Court.
Boy, I loved that show. Watched it on my black and white tv back in the
80’s. ‘t was a simpler time. Now everything’s in Color, it’s just not
Nobody can ever top She-Ra.
I always have Turnsdays off.
The Hidden 1987 is fucking awesome!!!
Yep, it’s taking shape pretty well now. There are a few things that I might have done differently but I certainly see the appeal of it.
Take a look at Drive/It Follows/The Guest soundtracks if you are into it, really good
they actually asked the composer of it follows to do this and he turned it down. he’s one of my favorites
Second season of Stranger Things will end up as second season of Daredevil, technically good but ultimately disappointing. It was perfect as one off curiosity (as they themselves pointed out was Turbo Kid – Turbo Kid was awesome, everybody should see it)
They filming Space Cop 2: BLM Bandits & The Milwaukee Race War
Remember when you only got “high-def” when you had your hands on the antenna?
Watched this entirely yesterday due to this review. I have to say I love it 😀
Just eat a lot more and it will naturally happen
Again just like Chaz Bono
You lost me on this one, guys. I usually at least have to agree, in part, with your reasoning for liking/disliking a movie, but…this show seems to carbon copy elements straight from a number of films/tv shows from the 80s, without much expansive thought. It’s almost a slick remix, if you will. The production quality is high and the acting doesn’t suck but…nah.
I blame The Simpsons and our easy acceptance of pop culture referencing for this…programme.
So you like something, because you like something? Makes. No. Sense.
Crazy, right? I mean, I had a really good pizza once, so imagine my surprise when I had the same pizza made by a different place, and it was also really good.
Not sure why Mike said the monster was “done completely in 3-D.” There were plenty of guy-in-suit and animatronic shots of the monster. They even mention in the credits that the monster was played by world-renowned actor Some Guy, and the animatronic suit was built by the same team of hobos who made the Hellboy suits.
Also, a little surprised no one mentioned the obvious influence of “Fright Night” on the teenagers’ subplot, considering the actor they hired to play Jonathan looks like the guy who played Evil and C. Thomas Howell starred in a gay porno movie together and then had a baby (a gaby?). Also a ton of Clive Barker and Dean Coontz in there, but who cares.
Anyways, I got to get back to my job at the horse semen factory. Keep up the mediocre work, you fat frauds.
Good, not great, and because of the things you touched on. I’m waiting for someone to claim this show is “original” just to see a classic internet smack down.
As for the whole homage/ripoff question, I believe I’ve discovered the answer. The Stephen King story that Stranger Things was most reminiscent of was “The Mist”, which was King’s ripoff of H.P. Lovecraft, who was ripping off Hieronymus Bosch, who was ripping off Dante, who ripped off Satan.
So basically, Satan is behind it all. That’s why the kids were playing his favorite board game.
I’ve always been a fan of Satan’s early work but lately he’s become too commercial for my taste.
He’s been on a downward slide for decades. But he really jumped the shark with “Becoming Chaz.”
Truly a low point in both Satan’s and Bono Senior’s carriers.
I hope the Spacecop car wasn’t torched last night!
Chaz Bono, because America needed another fat white guy.
Why no Half in the Bag style intro? This was basically and episode of re:View
I think they filmed it in the same day. You might notice Jay looked at his notes in the exact same place as in the last video, and Suicide Squad seemed very fresh in their memories.
Holy shit Milwaukee is burning! I hope this doesn’t affect RLM in any way.
There was a police shooting, then a riot then burning of buildings on the north side. I’d post a link but….
Goddamn it with these fucking police shootings already these pigs can fuck the fuck off.
I think a civilian was shot then a police officer. Not sure what the official story is yet.
I’ll look it up, as much as I hate horrible news stories. Thanks for the info, though, better than learning it from a shit storm on facebook.
Satan jumped the shark a looong time ago around 1 AD.
Pray for #Milwaukee
You know, Amazing Wisconsin, I am not exactly the best PR strategist around, but shouldn’t it be #PrayForMilwaukee?
Can’t even make a clusterfuck trending right…
Jeee, haven’t you learnt anything this year?
im trying really hard to imagine your suprise and i cant sorry
Word got out where Mike and Jay stored all the surplus copies of Space Cop.
Let’s just say people acted appropriately.
Quick! Do a positive re-view of Soul Plane to soothe the tension. Space Cop by day, Space Korean Shopkeeper by night. Only one man can save Milwaukee.
And it’s not Jack Packard.
He might stay alive for a few extra days if he follows Dawn of Dead rules.
Dawn of the Dead 2: BLM Boogaloo
I’m only up to episode 3 of Stranger Things, so I’m not watching this ep or reading these comments yet. I just popped in to say:
(1) The theme is straight out of Big Trouble in Little China.
(2) Winona Ryder is great so far. If RDJ can have a second act, so can she.
(3) RIP, Kenny Baker.
(4) I hope Mr. Plinkett wasn’t burned out of his house last night during the undocumented bonfires in Milwaukee.
That is all.
“Unconfirmed sources cite a fire in a large storage unit as being the initial cause of the multiple fires currently ravaging the city of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Inside the storage unit firefighters discovered hundreds upon hundreds of blu-ray copies apparently of a film entitled Space Cop. Authorities managed to salvage an intact copy of the film and upon viewing it, Chief of Police, Edward Flynn, issued the following statement to the press:
“Based on the low production value of the picture, sub par performances from the actors, a needlessly convoluted plot and a frankly baffling absense of jokes in what appears to have been promoted as a comedy we are treating this initial fire as arson. The perpetrator most likely felt wronged by the producers of this picture and feeling powerless he decided to take matters into his own hands.
Can’t say I blame him, really.”
“Confirmed sources cite a fire in a large storage unit as being the initial cause of the multiple fires currently ravaging the city of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Inside the storage unit firefighters discovered hundreds upon hundreds of blu-ray copies apparently of a film entitled Space Cop. Authorities managed to salvage an intact copy of the film and upon viewing it, Chief of Police, Edward Flynn, issued the following statement to the press:
“Based on the low production value of the picture, sub par performances from the actors, a needlessly convoluted plot and a frankly baffling absense of jokes in what appears to have been promoted as a comedy we are treating this initial fire as arson. Our current working theory is that the perpetrator most likely felt wronged by the producers of the picture and feeling powerless he decided to take matters into his own hands.
Can’t say I blame him, really.”
“In unrelated news, two local men in their mid-thirties were almost killed in traffic today when they stumbled out onto a six lane highway. When asked by the police what they were thinking, the two men explained that they were doing a live stream of Pokémon Go when a pokemon spawned nearby them. This pokemon was later identified as Pidget but was not available for an interview.”
What happened to the forum link up top?
It got cannibalized by the re:view button.
Looks like RLM got rid of the useless forum.
I’m at the same point as you and I think she’s terrible. She’s literally being outacted by children.
stranger things have happened
I was actually just saying how the monster reminded me a lovecraftian type thing. I was all right with it. I think it would’ve been neater if they did some sort of practical prosthetics for at least some of the shots, but the look was neat… if not anything new. But it’s hard to come up with anything more horrifying than Lovecraftian imagery. The thing reminded me of something I would’ve seen in “Quake 1” back in the day. Just a weird sack of flesh.
I knew it Mike watches spook shows. Ghost Adventures is pure schlock in a wow way.
I am nostalgic for the future.
Gee, I guess everybody is watching Stranger Things…..
Hack lives matter, hope our guys are safe in Milaukee….
In some PKD alter-verse they pay more attention to the webzone comments than the message boards and actively encourage tangents and five digit comment counts. Comments are retweeted, pop-up RLM events are organized, and a ‘zine called ‘Pluperfect Plinkett’ begins circulating new ideas, thrilling conspiracies, and used clothing exchanges.
They confirmed on their stream that they were not affected by it. They apparently live far enough away.
We can only dream.
I finished it before it was cool to watch because of RLM.
I am a hack fraud hipster!
whats up with the dislike of ryders performance? she aint no little girl anymore, and I think she was pretty great. even when she overacts a little in this one, I knew personally people, which behave almost *exactly* in real life like she did as a performance.
and nerdkids would have movie-posters on their walls, but certainly not something like iron maiden or other schlocky rock-shit. steve would have, but not these kids.
if my english seems kinda odd, its not my first language…
You just provided me with… instant relief.
Jay’s a weirdo.
The scene at the end of episode 9 of Horace and Pete is one of the most powerful moments I have seen in any film.
I’m not. I saw it weeks ago.
I live to jerk off.
That’s a smart thing to live for ’cause you can do that for a while. It gets tricky when you’re homeless but you’ll manage.
aint we all?
I saw its 9.0 score on imdb and thought “Hey, there’s a week til the next episode of The Night Of, might as well give this a go.”
I made it 15 minutes into the first episode before I shut it off. I couldn’t stand what I thought was a stilted play format and annoying, forced dialogue.
Admittedly I don’t frequent bars that often and never during the day, maybe that’s why I couldn’t get into it. Or maybe it’s because I’m too young and have yet to experience and major beat downs from life.
What was the appeal to you?
The style is unique enough for people to appreciate it. It’s like a sitcom with good writing and no laugh track with that surrealism that makes a show like Louie so great. There’s something about the silence that shapes the show too, very quiet, very real in many ways.
If it’s not for you it’s not for you but I think it’s a great show, apart from episode 6, that one didn’t sit right with me.
I’ll give it another chance. I think what turned me off the most was the first episode’s opening dialogue about Trump. It felt too easy and overdone but as I learned the episode first aired back in January so I can’t really hold that against the show.
It’s something you take your time with. Watching one episode after another is pretty much a binge for this show (although some episodes are shorter than others). It’s the character moments that count, especially with Alan Alda as Uncle Pete.
RIP Rich Evans, 2016 – killed by dindus.
I happened to have already watched it too, I too am a hipster faggot.
Eleven is the key to all this. if we can get her working. she’s one of the more powerful and shaved heads we have ever had. hopefully it will work <3
it’s stylistically designed to be that way but we cant undo that, but we can diminish the effects of it!
Mr. Plinkett lives in Milwaukee. MR. PLINKETT lives in New Joisey.
I literally had both a Thing and an Evil Dead poster in the 80s 🙂 Okay, it was more like ’84-’85…but I had them.
De gustibus, but I disagree. I thought she disappeared into the role–in fact, it took me the first episode to figure out that the mom was her. The hysterical mother is a bit of a cliche, but I think she is handling it well. The kids are fine–although just a little too cutesy and perfectly diverse, for my tastes.
That’s right then.
I haven’t seen it yet…but I will…
84-85 was the last great year for movies.
Like Mike said Wynona’s seeming lack of range due to direction and editing.
I thought that’s when it’s easier, you can just do it on the bus or in the alley.
Nope. That would be 86 and 87 – Aliens, Fly and Angel Heart
Yes I would agree, but the peak was around 82 – 84 then shit started to slide.
I disagree. More great movies from 1987 – Predator, Robocop, Hellraiser, Spaceballs, Lethal Weapon
Ups for (3).
Yes we do.
Rather your not hearing what I’m saying.
There were a handful of good movies after the mid 80’s.
But the industry started to slide after 85.
In a macdonalds
In the park
I would say they should be carrying to protect themselves. But I remember they got a copy of “Exploding Varmints” and could just set it on their dash and no one will F with them.
I wondered if i was the only one let down by season 2 of Daredevil. I found myself looking at my phone a lot through it and just looking up at the, “Oh look he’s punching a lot of people….”, scenes.
Or, the tin foil on the end of the antennae which always worked, until it didn’t, and then you’d be back to holding the damn thing again.
It was just very cold on the set — Shrinky Dink.
Gave it another shot. Although it’s still very much hit and miss for me the parts that hit, hit hard.
That’s right, Jay.
“It’s like inter-dimensional dandelion monsters sorta, it rhymes.”
Space Cop murders unarmed aliens too.
One man was holding what appeared to be some kind of crystal skull and smelled heavily of alcohol.
So was it homogeneous or homagenous?
probably a homo genius, a rare member of the genus homo
Jay raises an issue I’d like resolved: What the actual fuck was going on in Under the Skin?
Or the wire hangers, back when they actually made them out of wire.
Eventually you’d have this huge wire and tin foil sculpture precariously standing on top of your television.
Yeah, every once in a while you’d get a Tremors or a Seven, but for the most part things were really bad and I learned to stay away from theaters.
At least now we have Marvel. Sure, they’re not masterpieces, but at least they get me into the theater once in a while.
Stranger Things was mostly crap. looked nice and was better than the X Files season 10 shite. but it was just popcorn. not worth the first TV review on HitB.
Where is Jessica Hyde when you need her?
I kinda hope it happened right in front of the Lightning Fast VCR so those hackfrauds would be out of their misery. And finally, Mr. Plinkett will be able to rewatch his Night Court tape in the deepest depth of Hell
Steve isn’t an asshole boyfriend;
– He doesn’t pressure Nancy for sex at all. Pretty stand up.
– He only smashes Jonathan’s camera after he finds out Jonathan has been taking pictures of his girlfriend getting undressed from the woods. Perfectly reasonable.
– He only fights with Jonathan after he and Nancy lie about their meetings. Jealousy yes but he’s a teenager.
– He stands up to his friends when they bash Nancy being goody-goody. Honourable.
– He save the day like a boss
Seriously, at what point is he an asshole? His friends are dicks to Jonathan but Steve is awesome.
Every time you see the monster on this show, I want you to realize I fucked its mouth.
The last two episodes redeem it some what, but the first 8 or whatever are mostly crap, only occasionally saved by the performances. He needed another writer to punch it up and stop him from indulging his worst instincts.
they used the word “subvert.” meaning they defied expectations for the asshole boyfriend trope.
I’d argue than the awful X-Files season 9 was better than the X-Files season 10 shite. That’s how bad it was.
tbh the only thing i know her as is donna from a scanner darkly so it took me a while to register this screeching character defined totally by being a mom was the actress whose name id like to sex up
You have to understand that anyone who says they like “Horace and Pete” is lying. Just like anyone who says they think “Louie” is a good show.
They are people who are caught in a moment: a moment of Louis CK adoration. Thus, any crap he commits to film is marked ‘genius’ by them because they want to participate in the moment. Even when he films an entire episode that is just him shouting the lyrics to “Who Are You” at his children, then visiting his horribly cliched, unfunny swearing racist grandma.
Steve Martin documented this problem ages ago. He could go on stage and say anything and people would laugh. He didn’t have to try anymore: he had become a moment, a participation exercise. That’s why he stopped doing stand-up.
It will pass. And nobody will remember these horrible shows. The truly awful thing, though, is that it ruins the target. Louis CK has already fallen far from his peak and clearly believes everything he touches is gold – witness his ridiculously unfunny child rape monologue on SNL.
That is another aspect of it: the left has made everything political, and because they’re insular and dumb and uneducated, the extent of their political ‘comedy’ is saying “Trump!” or “Bush!” or “binders of women!” to each other and rolling their eyes.
Uncle Biden just gave away the identity of the holder of the nuclear launch codes on public TV. That’s hilarious. But it’s not funny, because he’s “one of the good guys”.
What a world.
I only figuratively had them 🙁
I took the whole little love triangle element to be a nod to, well, all sorts of ’80s teen movies, but Pretty in Pink in partciular.
The only thing interesting about Daredevil’s second season was The Punisher…sometimes. I wasn’t shocked. The dialog was often groan-worthy in season one, and season two wasn’t going to have The Kingpin to make things interesting.
I like the music, but I agree with Mike that it doesn’t work with the show. It does sound like they ripped off Space Cop XD This isn’t Miami Vice, it’s small town Iowa. Something with a bit more blues/rock guitar would make more sense, and would be more likely to be used in a movie like this from the 80s. Or maybe even a bit more ethereal and twin peaks-y. The music is where it gets into “omg remember the 80s??!!” territory.
I watched the first half of that movie, but then I fell into a coma.
I was so happy when I got that set-top antenna which had it’s own power supply. I even had channels without any static at all, still you had to tweak it over and over again depending on the channel. Halcyon days. Nothing beats HD288…
I put one on the attached antenna after I had broken it off. Good old coat hangers. Watching television MacGyver style.
I watched it cause it was labled a Science-Fiction horror thriller. I would have liked more S-F, more horror, more thriller, and much much much less “Lars von Trier”.
Hope you guys are okay with the Milwaukee riots
I’m sure they’re fine with it.
There fine, sorry about the riots though…
I can see the intro to the next HITB as we speak…
We’re about due for a new Best of the Worst, aren’t we? I’m thinking so because of the cold sweats and hallucinations.
I think terms like homo genius are reserved for people like Alan Turing and not every homo in the genus like Paul Feig.
Possibly even a Wheel or Choose-n-Lose. Dare to dream.
I disagree. Go watch any creepy show from the 80s. They all had that same type of music. It’s all part of the mood.
I thought Steve was an asshole, but a well-meaning one.
Hey hold the fuck on a minute….
How come Jay stopped doing quick cuts?
I think I heard him speak on this during a Pre-Rec stream. I think he said something about it possibly “coming back in a different form”, so maybe that’s what Re:View is, or maybe we’ve yet to see what he’s referring to.
I was thinking the same thing. But they’v been so productive lately I don’t want to assume too much
I disagree entirely. Twin Peaks type soundtrack would’ve been too moody, they’ve got their whole jazz-blues type thing going on. GREAT soundtrack, but it works for how weird and Lynchy that show is. And I didn’t hear anyone complaining about the soundtrack in Turbo Kid, which was very much “look at this it’s the 80s” because everything in it sounded like an 80s video game. It didn’t bother me either, I’m just saying. This was done in the STYLE of the 80s, like it felt like it was from that era with a little more modern flair to it. I dunno maybe I’m the only one here who is actually a huge fan of Tangerine Dream. This didn’t really quite sound like them but it had that feel, so I get where Jay was coming from on that. Their compositions are in fact usually a little weirder, and I think if I had one criticism of the soundtrack is that it could’ve used a touch more weirdness. But that’s because I like weird, abstract synthy music. I think what they did worked for what they were trying to accomplish. The theme kind of conveys a sense of intrigue, mystery, and atmosphere, and it almost sounds a little bit childlike – which is all right with me seeing how roughly one third of the protagonists are children. Tangerine Dream was always much more “mature” sounding, and if they actually had them do the score though I think the show would’ve felt a little bit different. I don’t know if for better or worse.
I’m fine. thanks for worrying. but I live 20,000 miles from America?
Last thing I want to complain about with Strange Things. #GUNS Nancy fires 10 shots from a 6 shooter. RLM is totally shilling for netflix.
I don’t know how the guys can be Tarantino fans and accuse this movie of ripping anything off from older movies. I know they briefly mention Tarantino but he literally copies entire scenes from older movies (I’m a huge Tarantino fan BTW).
I think the difference is with a T film you know going in that it’s going to “homage” the hell out of something and it’s hip and cool where in this, it’s not as obvious so when you notice it, it’s like, “Hey, they’re trying to pull a fast one!”.
As for Winona’s acting, I don’t have any kids (that I know of) but I think a mother *would* act like that all the time if she was missing a kid and knew he was alive and there was a conspiracy and she could talk to him. I thought her performance was great. It has to be hard to cry for 8 hours worth of film.
I think Jay believed Winona Ryder’s character is unconvincing because he’s a heartless bastard who feeds children to Mike
That was a “homage” to 80s movies when no one ever ran out of ammo.
Omg there is a website…. and it’s AMAZ……mediocre
I don’t get how you guys can be Tarantino fans and accuse this movie of ripping anything off from older films. I know they mention Tarantino but, he actually copies entire scenes from older movies (I’m a Tarantino fan BTW).
I think the difference is with a Tarantino flick you know going in that it’s going to “homage” the crap out of something and it’s “hip and cool” where in this, it’s not as obvious so when you notice it, it’s like, “Hey, they’re trying to pull a fast one!”.
As for Winona’s acting, I don’t have any kids (that I know of) but I think a mother *would* act like that all the time if she was missing a kid and knew he was alive and there was a conspiracy and she could talk to him. I thought her attempt wasn’t great. It has to be hard to cry for 9 hours worth of film!
In Tarantino’s defense he does elevate the shit outta the stuff he steals/copies/rips off/pays homage to – whatever.
On a side note, I cannot get over how much your profile pic looks like zombie Margot Robbie.
I’m not really a Tarantino fan myself. I love Deathproof and enjoyed Hateful 8. The avatar is Apple from Turbo Kid! 😀
In your OP you say you ARE a Tarantino fan, now you’re saying you ain’t? Well which one is it, guy?!
Death Proof is great whenever Kurt Russell is on screen and God fucking awful whenever he isn’t.
I have yet to check out Turbo Kid, though I do remember the two hacks praising it.
Scroll down two posts. This post is an “homage” to it.
Turbo Kid is fun if you liked direct to video insanity in the early 90s. It has a heart and is fun to watch. It’s on Netflix now.
Well fuck me I feel stupid now.
Do Mike and Jay owe Winona Ryder money or something?
I don’t think you really understood some of what I said but anyways…
Correct. It should read: “argue that the”.
I’m pretty sure if anything it would be the other way around…
Turbo Kid is full of obnoxious 80’s Nintendo and WWF and Rainbow Brite references and is really stupid and terrible in pretty much every way but Jay and Mike were really drunk when they watched it and for some indie filmmaker politics reason had to suck up to these French Canadians and now everybody else will pretend to like it because Jay and Mike pretend to like it. Run-on sentences FTW.
Seriously, their review of Turbo Kid sounded like those guys who know their friends’ band sucks but can’t bring themselves to say it because it’s their friends’ band and “that’s not how you treat friends, and besides they did plug your band at their show that one time and they gave us gas money and they’re hella cool…” Every five seconds of the review was “if this were in any other movie it would be fucking stupid and horrible but because these guys did it…” That’s code for “this movie is stupid and horrible” even if Jay and Mike themselves are in denial about it.
Also, Tarantino is a complete hack and everybody knows it, even if nobody admits it.
If you want to elaborate I can “misunderstand” that too if you’d like.
You upvoted your own comment.
Aliens shouldn’t commit crimes then.
Yeah. It’s cool.
Some were innocent bystanders. But I guess no alien is truly innocent!
yeah, exactly why I won’t bother.
if it means more videos, well I surely hope so
Most filmmakers borrow from their inspirations. That’s how art progresses for the most part, the trick is to be transformative with the material so you’re not just ripping off certain scenes or visuals like a hack Snyder. Tarantino borrowed stuff from old serials and crappy tv shows and turned it into some fucking awesome shit. Stranger Things does that too in some respects, but fails in others (the music is kinda blah and some of the scenarios were a little too on the nose for homage — like the slingshot).
I finished the series today. I hated her. She’s playing her part as if it were Gollum. It’s too much. It’s like William Hurt in Into the Wild. Losing a kid is not a license to over act and try to chew the scenery. I think it’s jarring how selfish her acting comes across, with no playing off other characters. She’s just waiting for her line so she can switch on and start cowering or yelling.
I laughed so hard when I went to the website and found it actually exists. FREE TURKEY.
I watched it literally right before they reviewed it, so I don’t accept your accusation of “I liked it because Mike and Jay liked it”. In my opinion it was like a more competent version of watching an RLM movie – it was tongue in cheek and they clearly didn’t have the budget for certain things they would have dropped a few bucks for in the 80s – one of which is pyrotechnics, something the film could have used instead of drop-in explosion effects. And it had a sort of “small set and modest budget” quality to it, and I thought overall my feelings on the movie were that it was cute. It was a lot of fun and it was cute. Was it stupid? Yeah, but a lot of movies from the 80s were stupid. And I agree about the music a little bit, the music sounded like Nintendo game music being played by a modern synth pop band. But Spacecop was stupid and everyone here loved that. Just saying.
you can see the child crumbs on his chin
I’m only halfway through the series, but I agree those kinds of characters are annoying.
Though it may be truer to life than we realize. I just finished Jeffrey Toobin’s new book on Patty Hearst and her parents divorced not long after her conviction. The loss of a child makes many parents crazy.
I enjoyed both films, but I’m pretty sure the popular consensus around here is to hate Skip Skop.
Also it got better towards the end. Or I just got used to it. The series is just engrossing enough to keep you moving from one plot thread to another, keeping you eagerly anticipating more reveals and cool stuff.
I don’t want to focus too much on isolated negative elements because overall I was very very pleased with having seen this show. Quality productions like this are always welcome and nitpicking elements might help improve them, but also might come across as petty and smug, and truly this show is something I’m willing to enjoy and celebrate. It’s not perfect, but they did a fantastic job and I’m very thankful for it.
If it was a home video poster release, most definitely he could have had a Thing poster on his wall.
Jay and Mike make self-aware productions that seem stupid on the surface but require a minimum intelligence to create, understand and appreciate. “The Turbo Kid” is not that. The only parts of the movie that feel self-aware in any way are the scenes of graphic violence. Although the budget may be low, the visuals are actually the strongest part of the movie. The rest of the movie wasn’t “self-aware stupid”; it was the regular kind of stupid. It was “Star Trek: into Darkness” stupid.
The story itself was unremarkable, but I don’t think that was really the point of the movie, so I’ll leave that one alone. The characters, which received more emphasis (as well as more undeserved praise), were bad. The only exceptions were the guy who looks like Hank Azaria, and the guy who played the main character. The former was entertaining, and the latter was bland and boring. Main characters in movies are usually bland and boring, but in most movies that’s a weakness. In this movie, “bland and boring” takes the form of a compliment.
Everybody else was annoying and stupid. Apple felt like a reference to Kimmy Gibbler from “Full House,” except that while Gibbler is endearing to the audience and irritating to the main cast, Apple manages to achieve the polar opposite. I hate having to be told I’m supposed to like her just because Turbo Man does. Budget Jason Statham is also terrible, not in the least because he’s trying too hard to be Jason Statham. Michael Ironside sounded like he was reading off a teleprompter because he couldn’t be bothered to memorize his lines.
tl;dr: Turbo Kid sucks, nobody actually thinks it’s a good movie, but the very stupid are entertained by the very stupid references because they are very stupid. Also, Jay and Mike were obviously paid off to give it a good review. Hack frauds.
Ohhh right, it’s the whole “they didn’t deliver” premise. I read a bit of that on the IMDB. To be honest Jay warned y’all. I heard him say it a lot of times “everyone’s waiting for this movie and they’re just gonna be utterly disappointed”. People didn’t listen.
Lightning Fast Webzone
“The kids swear a lot” – seriously? People still think that’s “cool”, give me a break, that’s as cheap and lame as toilet humor.
I dunno, she’s no Dana Plato…
I don’t think “cool” is word. Its just nice to see content that isn’t sanitized/scrubbed clean of curse words to reenforce a false reality that kids don’t swear. It feels fresh to see something that’s honest, ya know?
Jay’s specifically said it was “cool”. BTW, I didn’t cuss all that much when I was kid and I don’t think it adds anything to a show
The shittiest performance in this show was by Mathew Modine. Sorry, but it’s true. He was more one note than Winona. Also, why was Mathew’s hair WHITE? That is the biggest question I have. I say it’s because of backstory plot they abandoned.
Bout halfway through the series. I absolutely cannot believe you guys are defending the boyfriend. The dude is a straight up cunt.
I’m generally enjoying it, but it needs more of the Sheriff character and less everyone else.
I didn’t swear much as a kid either. I think the more realistic depiction is one I saw on a Twilight Zone, where a kid who is unaccustomed to swearing keeps saying “damn hell” like it’s the worst thing he can think of.
*the potential loss
The actual loss can end a marriage, even if one parent was only “technically” at fault. (Toobin, eh?)
“I’m about halfway through the series.”
He redeems himself a bit near the very end of the series, but overall your assertion is correct. There is no monster rape though.
I think he meant it was “cool” that they were portraying children realistically. Which for me, they were. I as a matter of fact, did play Dungeons & Dragons and curse like a sailor starting around like 5th or 6th grade. I’m not claiming it made me “cool”, we all grew out of it eventually… to a degree. It’s just what it was. We might’ve thought it made us cool back then. But now it’s just an integrated subroutine of my dialect. When in doubt, say fuck!
Also, Jay calls everything he likes “cool”. I don’t think he means “hip”. It just means he likes it probably.
It’s times like these I wonder how long RLM will be around.
When they reboot There Will Be Blood, who will be Danielle Plainview?
they’ve been simultaneously trying new things and becoming more lazy. Probably hacking their own E! True Hollywood story
They must be working on the Space Cop Ultimate Edition. Hopefully that’ll explain the villains’ motivation more, and have scenes of Jena Malone as a whore.
Unless his redemption arc involves his death it probably won’t be enough for me.
It will be around until Rich finally snaps and murders Mike and Jay onscreen after a thinly veiled homosexual quip.
It’ll be glorious.
So.. has anybody figured out why Jay hates Ryder? Maybe he had a crush on her as a kid?
It’s the only relevant criticism of movies and shows online. probably forever you fucking hack fraud.
Thats how kids are you dumb fuck
Because Stranger Things makes something new, and tells a good story.
Tarantino just masturbates himself and doesn’t tell a story anymore.
Everyone grew up differently, but what you just described sounds incredibly dated. I’m sure that’s in some way the exact same thing as what I just described, only taking place in the 50s. It’s like how Bart Simpson saying “damn” on TV used to be mildly shocking. Now we’ve got cartoons with babies that use every word in the book. It’s just a generational gap. I grew up in the 90s so everything was “fuck”, “shit”, “ass”, and unfortunately a lot of inflammatory homophobic remarks being thrown around right before ironically punching eachother in the dick. I may have grown up around a bunch of backwoods assholes though.
I don’t know guys. I know ultimately they both liked it, but parts of this discussion felt very “Simpsons did it!” to me. Like maybe the whatever brothers never saw “Under the Skin” and came up with that visual completely on their own, if so they should get as much credit then as was given to “Under the Skin”, right? It’s not like “Under the Skin” was completely original, it was mostly just a black version of the infinite prison from THX-1138, (I loathed “Under the Skin” btw).
I still love RLM, but this time it felt like it should’ve just been like “this is what good entertainment looks like, no real complaints, but to discuss it further…”. But they said “This was good, not great” which seems like they are holding it to a near impossible standard. No kids on bikes, that’s an ET rip-off, no kids with slingshots, that’s a different rip off, no asshole boyfriend because that’s a trope, but when it’s a subversion it’s still a trope, a mom can’t be hysterical when that’s what her character is and her kid has been gone less than a week and there is a monster coming out of the wall. The show is both too long and not. All these things are fine when it’s like “let’s talk about our feelings” but when it’s a continuation of “this is what’s wrong with the show” I feel that’s unfair.
Like if Mike/Jay were as old as Spielberg would they complain about how unoriginal Indiana Jones was because they’d be familiar with the stuff Spielberg used as inspiration?
And then there were lots of original visuals like the Christmas lights thing that didn’t even get mentioned.
It’s silly, I know, because their review was mostly positive but to me the review was still too harsh. It felt like they were kinda saying “here’s what the show did wrong” rather than “here’s what didn’t work for me”. It told a new story with a range of different characters and a plot that was intriguing but easy to follow and also unpredictable. That alone should be seen as enough of an accomplishment. Maybe it’s because the internet is really high on the show that there is a temptation to be critical, but all they needed to say to make me feel better was something like “It goes without saying that this series is great when compared to many shlock summer movies that we give a pass to because of low expectations” or something like that. I just don’t like the idea of getting to the point where we can’t enjoy anything because it reminds us of stuff we’ve seen already. No creator works in a vacuum and so to me it doesn’t make sense for a movie like ET to forever claim “house and shed in a wide shot at night”. Use whatever shot makes sense when making the show, when something is plagiarism, you’ll know.
I feel like Turnsday (from the website) is a reference to another RLM video. Is it?
Ladies have to wait until his “Dark Knight” Rises
Incidentally he calls his penis his “Dark Knight” so that this joke works.
Sounds like the second pizza place was ripping off ideas from the first pizza place.
I would be curious why Mike loves “The Killing” so much. The first 2 seasons were very poorly received.
You think I don’t have a life.
Why is it not good? It’s a fun show with likable dynamic characters and a plot that is interesting and relatively unpredictable. Since when did that stop being enough to be “good”? Unless by “good” you mean “One of the top 10 best shows”. The way some people talk about it makes it sound like NCIS quality.
I was so sure one of them was going to step in it, and then when he showed up and the monster showed up and nobody had told him about it I was like “welp, Steve is definitely going to step in it.” But nope, their reasonably good plan worked reasonably well.
I’m holding out some hope that Season 2 will be like Fargo Season 2 and be almost entirely unrelated.
I liked this show more than Narcos. I’m a plot guy and you didn’t really get to be settled into the plotline of Narcos until like half way through if not later.
But that aside I agree with everything else you said. Well said
IMO all the kids but the little girl was just “doing a good job ‘kid acting'”. But they were all believable enough that I could go along for the story just fine.
So basically you are racist, yes.
On the 3rd viewing does it grow a plot?
Does that mean they are now back on the correct side of the shark?
He didn’t say better, he said simpler. How hyper-connected people are these days would’ve made the kids on bikes being adventurous story line harder to believably pull off.
RLM will never be sponsored by anything but Chunky’s Chicken. Don’t worry.
I don’t know what that means.
By easter egg do you mean website name that they prominently displayed and mentioned out loud twice? Or is there something else?
I do appreciate that they take the time to do little things like make the website though.
That’s a good point, but still they could have easily shown the monster seeming a bit injured which is why he could be defeated in the end. Maybe they did and I just didn’t appreciate it.
That is a shame, I assumed it was CG too, it really looks that way.
I’ve been here since The Care Boars Save Christmas, in fact I got that tattooed across my forehead the day after I saw it. So I’m the OG fan.
Wait, some people who post in these discussions have lives?
Yeah it’s not like that visual is entirely hard to come up with… the room was literally just a big dark blank slate. I’m not saying it wasn’t cool in either, but it’s minimalistic, and not exactly unique without context.
I just imagined a “last half in the bag” episode where they play that sad “we sure learned a lesson today” piano music at the end, and they literally hang up their hats even though they’ve never worn hats up until this point. I think I shed a tear.
Nothing lasts forever, ol’ chum.
We’ll know something’s up if they start wearing hats.
So.. what are you suggesting? They are going to cancel their tv show? Are you 65? Where are they going exactly?
That’s not how this works bitch.
Nasty moth you’ve got. Eventually yes, HITB and RLM will be no more. Then you will have to commit suicide because you will have nothing after that you fucking loser.
“Nasty moth you’ve got. Eventually yes, HITB and RLM will be no more.
Then you will have to commit suicide because you will have nothing after
that you fucking loser.”
Nasty moth? Like Mothra? One of my favorite Kaiju.
Oh.. did you mean mouth? Then you drop the F bomb.
Confirmed for fucking retarded.
You’re so pathetic that you have to use a simple typo (that’s been corrected) as leverage for your weak troll attack. Piss off, you little shit-whip.
Well.. logic. You don’t understand how the internet works. You think they are going to fail somehow when they have a powerful fan base. Logic in that you’re attacking me for cursing and that’s all you got. Typo, for confirmed salty motherfucker.
I’m not a troll. Just smarter than you.
Not going away, unlike RLM… I understand how the internet “works”. I also understand that it is a cesspool for little cock-sucking trolls like yourself “CapedPenis”. I wasn’t attacking you for cursing, I was returning the favor to you for attacking me.
This is my last reply to you on this matter.
Now go find some bleach.
K. That’s some powerful arguments you got there.
Let me know when RLM “dies” so we can talk about it.
I actually really enjoyed how it not only resembled late 90s websites but was a reminder of how nice and minimalist they were. It loaded quickly and didn’t start autoplaying Telus ads in some video frame somewhere on the page
I see we got another easily amused type here.
As always, to each his own, realistic or not I just don’t see that it adds anything.
If you make stupid statements people are going to call you on them.
She shoplifted from Jay’s mom’s store.
“the first and last TV series to ever be discussed on Half in the Bag!”
Cuz nobody ever talks about Star Trek, ever.
I didn’t think the show was that great to be honest. The only time I enjoyed the soundtrack is when they played that New Order song. The Synthwave stuff left me totally cold and generally stood out and clashed with rather than supporting what was happening on screen. The characters ranged from annoying to totally unlikeable, with the possible exception of the town sheriff, who didn’t get enough to do. The relationship between Eleven and generic kid character number 3 rang totally false to me. Kids that age aren’t thinking about their opposite sex counterparts in that way yet. There’s something really nasty about the world they created, especially in their decisions to have the awkward girl brutally murdered by the monster followed by no-one giving even the slightest of shits about it and to act like the bullying douchebag character like was some kind of misunderstood hero when he was a jerk who deserved to be punished for all the horrible shit that he did throughout the show. They needed to explain more about whoever the hell that was who opened the portal to the other dimension and whatever the hell they were doing. It wasn’t clear why Eleven had powers or why she had to sacrifice herself at the end of the series. She seemed basically omnipotent to me. They never explored the nature or limitations of her abilities so her final sacrifice wasn’t really earned at all.
Don’t get me wrong it wasn’t terrible, but it definitely didn’t live up to the hype either.
Right, and that’s a fair argument. It doesn’t. I mean it’s a detail… and as details go you can either appreciate it or not, but it certainly doesn’t make the whole experience. It’s just one thing, and it could have worked with or without it (or not worked, depending on how you felt about the series)
Like — flying kites and rolling in the grass whilst on grass (knowwutI’msay’n) and listening to the chirping of the birdies overhead.
I like the fact that Stranger Things beat Spielberg’s Ready Player One to the ’80s-nostagia punch.
No one mentioned Altered States, one of my favorite ’80s movies. The whole sensory deprivation tank meme comes from Altered States. (The Fox TV show Fringe had a more direct homage to Altered States‘s Harvard-based sensory deprivation tank.
A second season of Stranger Things will rape my children’s childhood.
Also no one mentioned the ’80s nostaglia factor of having Pvt. Joker and Lydia Deetz star as the older generation.
He’s an asshole by joining his friends in the “slut graffiti” scene. Nancy deceived him, but he didn’t bother to ask for clarification and just jumped straight to “whore.”
I agree with you, though, and thought that scene in the alley was great regardless.
There are lots and lots and LOTS of scenes where Matt questions the ethics of being a vigilante, preaches from atop his moral pedestal, declares his love for a new woman, bleeds and acts despondent, etc.
Finally towards the end he stops apologizing for what he is but by that point I was like, “dude, shut the fuck UP already.”
Not looking forward to season 3.
Am I the only one who just completely disagrees with this entire post?
I just read Ready Player One book .. it’s not that good, it’s passable at best
That’s one of like six or seven movies I actually have on my computer. Love it.
I’ve been thinking about ladies since I was like 5, so you’re wrong on that front. What is it with everyone in here deciding they know what kids are and aren’t like? It’s almost as if you’ve never been a kid yourself.
I wish plots would work like beards.
It does not, and it probably wont be enough for you, but he does make an attempt to be cool.
Lol. OK, I’ll try to be smarter like you.
Cool. I think it’s always is about the situation, I mean obviously it’s silly when something happens where someone clearly would have cussed and they sanitize it, but then there is the flip side where they just swear for the sake of it.
Like I say, it all depends on the situation as to whether or not it works or not, but sadly I think Hollywood is still in this “rebellious” mindset where they think tossing in cuss words is some bold shocking move and it’s just distracting to me.
Is calling people “backwoods assholes” better than “inflammatory homophobic” remarks?
Being stupidly ironic, people have funny opinions about people who live in rural areas sometimes.
Right, Hollywood is trying to be “edgy” and as always they are like 20 years late to whatever party they’re attempting to crash.
I enjoyed the book. Kind of. But I was mostly referring to the huge ’80s nostalgia blow out and licensing nightmare that the Spielbergian bacchanal of a movie will be.
I also forgot that Blair Brown, William Hurt’s love interest in Altered States, had a recurring role in Fringe–another homage.
Yep yep, another show with a whole lot of sensory deprivation. Makes sense.
Me and the misses said “Altered States” simultaneously when she was first lowered into the tank. Sadly, she did not mutate into a Shakma down there.
You remind me of my favorite line in Altered States:
Hill Street Blues guy playing a doctor brings X-rays to radiologist, who asks:
“What are you looking for?”
“It looks to me like the architecture is somewhat abnormal.”
“Somewhat. . . . This guy’s a fucking gorilla.”
Of course, the 800 number is now a phone sex line.
What, you didn’t call the number, too? As expected, it’s a phone sex line.
I’m with you. I think I would have enjoyed it more with the volume off, just engaging with the visuals. The lack of criticism this show receives kind of disturbs me. I keep feeling like I should rewatch it because I must have missed something, but then I really don’t want to.
There’s a certain sacred cow thing that goes on with RLM reviews and fans. If the RLM crew claim to like something then it is the greatest thing ever and totally immune from criticism, even if they themselves have problems with it which they express in the review. If they claim to dislike something then it is the worst thing ever made with no redeeming qualities.
Just finished rewatching the whole shebang, and I had a couple of quick thoughts.
Wyoming Ryder: Her performance had a bit more than range than our hackfrauds remembered. That was particularly true in my favorite episode, “The Monster”, which showed her character being alternately deceitful, exasperated and defeated, all within the same scene. The biggest problem scenes that tricked people into thinking otherwise came in “the Bath”: first when she awkwardly confronted her son in the police station and later when she awkwardly comforted Eleven in the gym. I figure it was the perils of shooting out-of-sequence; she hadn’t figured out the arc yet, so those scenes felt like a big step backward and created the illusion of static, manic characterization.
World Renowned Film Legend, David Harben: Maybe my favorite montage in any filmed thing I’ve ever scene begins the moment that Hopper wakes up in his hillbilly manse after breaking into the Institute. The way he immediately, wordlessly starts tearing ass looking for the bug is a moment I’ve been waiting to see since I was just a wee paranoid maniac. It’s celluloid heroin. I would absolutely watch a spinoff show called “Hop”, which followed him on going on various supernatural missions, investigating petty crimes, or even going about his daily chores.
Mike drinks too much when he’s watching TV (and so do I): I initially agreed with him about the seemingly “dead-end” nature of the teens’ role in the finale, plot-wise. But on a second view, it was pretty clear. The purpose of the teen segment in the final episode was to lure the monster away from Will, to give the adults time to save him. After getting the information he wants, Matthew Modine sends them both down the memory hole, knowing that even his highly trained man was turned into dogmeat in the Upside-Down (a fact he alludes to when he’s on his way to the high school). The teens realize how vulnerable the adults will be while sitting under that stupendous Tiger America mural, so they hatch a scheme to kill Flowerface. Ultimately, they only manage to stall for time, which intentionally helps to save the day, and give the adults a blood trail to follow back to Will’s spot, which accidentally helps to save him. There’s some loosy-goosy-ness and coincidence at play there, but it’s set up and executed well enough, and it makes a difference in the plot.
“Lando!”: I love how the black Goony is pissed off on two of the three occasions this comparison is drawn.
Stranger Things to come: I agree with some other commenters here that the Duffer Brothers are more akin to cinephilic collagists like Quentin Tarantino, rather than reference addicts like Lindelof, Orci, and Kurtzman. They have a preferred palette and era, and use it to the advantage of the story instead of a shtick. That said, here’s some predictions of what might appear in the inevitable Season Two:
* A gradual, Cronenbergian body horror transformation akin to the 86′ version of “The Fly.” Will is the likeliest candidate, but since Twiggy and Evil Ed also spent some quality time on the other side they are also in the running. Plus, Evil Ed got some of Flowerface’s semen in his mouth during their struggle.
* A talking, “re-animated” head, either floating in a vat or hooked up to a super-computer. Welcome back, Matt Modine.
* Videdrome-esque mind control experiments, turning either Cara Buono or Not-John-Hughes into a major threat.
* Someone doing a turn as Ellen Ripley: facing off against a giant monster while driving a forklift.
* A “Gremlins”-like hunt through a shopping mall. Also, an monster slug is killed by a microwave oven.
* Even more “From Beyond” imagery, especially with one of the bad guys accidentally transforming into a monster.
Pretty sure this shit isn’t worth of download. I can wait new Ash vs Evil Dead season.
Fuck me! These kids can act… They are much better than other actors in the series.
Ha! Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman. I didn’t care about anything else, I was just mesmerized by her…
Hey, I read your super long and self-important thought. You are very interesting. You should be on the show.
Hey, I just read your supercilious broadside. I think I’d like to date you. Please post your measurements and a list of your ten favorite Tool songs.
Hey, Internet Super Plecostomus has no time for you. He sucks the glass clean, then moves on.
Just imagine if your job were to unpaint the Golden Gate Bridge, and just when you got to the end, you had to start over because of all the people behind you who think they can paint?
Butt out, Mercutio! Gills or not, I think I just met my third wife.
Then for “something blue,” let’s hope she wears methylene.
I know where those lips have been. Just sayin’.
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