Jay and Mike talk about Looper and Dredd. Meanwhile a charitable act leads to good fortune for Lightning Fast VCR repair.
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Thanks for making my day. Keep up the good work.
Personally Looper and Moonrise Kingdrom are my top two films of the year so far.
It’s a good time for Bruce Willis, who isn’t the lead in either and proves he can be an actor not just an “action star”.
He’s always proven that. Sixth Sense, Pulp Fiction, his non action/ non lead roles are his best.
He had me at Moonlighting.
That’s totally true.
I sort of always knew that but in recent years, with Die Hard 4.0 (or whatever better title that got in the US), The Expendables and RED (which I personally enjoyed) I’ve been thinking of him more as a ‘collect the paycheck’ action star.
Glad that he’s not and he clearly has a good agent picking some great stuff.
Liam Neeson seems to be going that direction though, which is a career turn I would have never predicted.
Honestly, I never agree with your guys.
What beer was being enjoyed in this episode?
New Glarus Two Women.
Is it available in minnesota?
no only in sconnie.
its a dank-ass lager, tho
fuck this gay earth
No. New Glarus beer is sold exclusively in Wisconsin.
Looper and Dredd were awesome. You guys definitely have to watch “The Raid” The action in that is awesome.
That’s a very smart and entertaining discussion of both films, especially Dredd, and I’ll definitely be seeking out your reviews in future. After weeks of reading and watching idiots talking ill-informed pish
about something they know nothing about, and with which they have
singularly failed to engage, that was like a breath of fresh air.
Facebook is a scourge.
Looper was a pain in the ass. I understand that sometimes you should just “enjoy the movie”, but that plot hole you mentioned where the wife is killed is the grand canyon of plot holes. Either the writer didn’t notice it, in which case he is stupid, or he couldn’t be bothered fixing it, in which case he’s lazy and/or thinks his audience is stupid. It’s just insulting.
Also, the tone is all over the place. We go from the comedic incompetent gatman to surgical amputation and child murder. And did anyone else find themselves laughing at bits that were surely unintended to be funny? Why did Bruce Willis pull that stupid shit-eating grin when he saw his future wife for the first time? Love at first sight doesn’t involve shitting your pants. Gah.
Stop watching movies.
Give it a rest. I don’t have to like every movie I see. I don’t have to pretend I do. If you have a proper response to anything I said, go ahead and type it out.
Proper response!?!! On the internet!?? MIND BLOWN.
The wife getting killed was an accident. That’s why the thugs burned the house in an attempt to cover it up, obviously they would have got caught and gone to jail for it though, as the logic of the film suggests.
But Bruce Willis wants to avenge her by taking down the guy who sent them.
It’s not that big of a deal.
I don’t think it was that much of an accident. If I recall correctly, they intentionally shoot her (whether they meant to kill her when they arrived is another matter, but when they pulled the trigger they meant to kill her). Anyway, I see your point that we can assume they were caught afterwards etc, but I think in this case (when the fact that murder is impossible in the future is the driver for the entire plot) the writer could have done a bit more to address the issue. Perhaps showing the killers being apprehended immediately by the local police?
It was a huge accident. The shooter, everytime we see him, is flop sweating and looks younger than the others. The shooting was a big fuck up, and that’s why they burned the house. This has been confirmed by Rian Johnson, so stop spinning your wheels. You missed the point, and that’s okay.
I haven’t seen the movie, but from my understanding, whether it was an accident or not is really not the issue. The important point is, why didn’t they just kill Bruce Willis after having already made the mistake of killing his wife? Maybe there was some plot contrivance which made it so that the loopers absolutely had to be killed by their corresponding past-selves, but otherwise, I don’t see why they wouldn’t simply shoot Bruce Willis in the head, given that they’d already fucked up by committing a murder. What would be the harm in doing one more? “Oh, shit. We just murdered someone and now we will almost certainly be sent to prison. Okay, enough about that, let’s get on with sending this guy into the past as part of an elaborate scheme to murder someone without being sent to prison.” I’m pretty sure that that’s the plot-hole everyone is talking about.
Although it doesn’t explain why they didn’t just shoot Joe then and there. If the burning house would cover up one murder, why not two?
Because then there would be no movie.
Or how about the idea that the police deem it as Joe murdering his wife, then trying to cover it up by burning the house down, and then leaving town since there would obviously be no trace of him. Plus, given Joe’s prior record; it would be believable.
i liked how time travel and tk were used sparingly for believability “we could draw diagrams – that not important” and “10% of the population has tk – we thought we would become super heros, instead we can just float coins to impress chicks in clubs”
I saw the film after only having watched the first trailer, as I love the previous work from the director and didn’t want to be spoiled.
So I knew nothing of the TK plotline, personally I thought it was cool and handled well.
Another example of scifi elements being used believably were the hover-bikes, yes they exist but they’re really expense and don’t really work, the only people who buy them are rich douchebags looking to show off.
I will now watch Dredd solely based on Mike’s contrarian recommendation.
Go watch it!
It is fucking good, and tell your friends about it too!
It’s a movie that needs your money for a sequel. I wish it had beaten RE Retribution at the box office though
DREDD is a very good movie, well in the spirit of the comic book. When I first saw photos of Urban as a new DREDD I’ve thought – wtf, the guy will be awful. I was so mistaken… Comparing to this version with Stallone is a camp parody. It’s a sort of surprise that today you can have such a brutal movie with a decent budget. Maybe because it was created in Europe? Anyway, worth seeing, you will be certainly suprised how much is there on the screen.
Dredd’s not terrible at all, but I can’t quite recommend it. Unlike Die-Hard or The Thing, the single-location isn’t executed that well. It feels rather generic and confined. I got tired of it way before the movie ended and dreaded (pun intended) how much time was left. This, however, is my only major complaint — grain of salt.
It does have a consistent tone and it doesn’t shy away from the violence. Dredd is not an invincible gunslinger, so there is tension and something at stake. Slow-mo isn’t just a cool effect, it’s used well for the sake of the grim tone. The tone of the finale, however, was a missed opportunity to show a real horrific death.
So a squashed face filling the screen with blood is not horrific? It’s better than horrific, it’s beautiful.
It was “beautiful”, and that’s my complaint. The cruelness of her deeds did not match her fate – she seemed to enjoy the ride. If you show a gun in act one, you fire it in act 3. Compared to the act 1 executions, she seemed to have got off very easy.
Slo-Mo prolongs perceptions and sensations such as orgasms and pain. Dredd is as much the villain as Ma Ma and she was resigned to her fate as Dredd was resigned to Judging her. The Chekov quote is incongrous to the argument. DREDD as a film plays with the conventions of redemption and revenge that we get in the average action-film.
Looper was awesome. totally missed that plot hole about shooting the wife! Did anyone else notice that it felt like Joseph Gorden Levitt was just doing a Bruce Willis impersonation? Especially in that scene where he has to go see the mafia boss early on.
Did anyone else notice that Joseph Gorden Levitt has attached ear lobes while Bruce Willis has detached ear lobes? Despite all the make up they did on their ears
Hey, asshole…”Loopers” was a piece of shit….cant believe these guys are recommending this dog turd for people to watch. Full of plot holes, predictable ending and boring as fuck after the first 40 minutes…..I’m worried these guys have sold out and getting paid to recommend shitty movies.
I always get a smile when you guys mention Paul Verhoeven. He is pretty much the only proper Dutch film director. And not only because he has chosen his place outside of the Netherlands (because the Dutch movie-industry makes generally total crap).
And the way you say his name wrong makes me laugh.
Thumbs down, why did you have to go blurt out the end of Dredd.
Is it that hard to guess that Dredd will kill all the bad guys by the end of the movie?
in all fairness Mike did say “spoiler alert” before they did so if you kept watching having the ending ruined is on you
That was great. Awesome job guys!
Looper is based off of Philip K. Dick’s The Skull, a short story. You should read it if you haven’t it’s public domain. The time travel makes a lot more sense in it. http://www.gutenberg.org/files/30255/30255-h/30255-h.htm
thanks for that link.I could see the twist miles away but still a good read.Always up for some P.K.Dick.Inspired lots of great movies.Too bad they don’t adhere to the storylines of his novels to the letter,but still better than notthing.
Not based on, but inspired by. Yes there are striking similarities but it’s not literally based on it. I’ve seen the writer of the film saying he merely had the idea while reading a PKD novel. He claims originality and they didn’t acquire a license for that story. Besides The Skull really focus more on the question “if you could go back in time and kill a Hitler type, before he actually became that, would you?”. And that’s not where this movie’s originality lies.
if Cameron directed Looper – all the hipsters would want him crucified for “Ripping off” …. smh biased ass niggas
Except that Cameron’s “looper” would be a completely different animal entirely, and so your analogy is severely flawed.
I needed this boost today. As always, you guys simply ROCK!
You guys should review some south korean movies. ‘Old Boy’ and ‘The Host’ are very worthy of a short review.
Thanks for the both the great recommendation on Dredd and for not calling it a remake. More people need to see it. Also I enjoyed all the Paul Verhoven comparisons, though I miss real squibs. Looper looks great, it’s a good time for low key sci-fi movies.
”Taken to the Zoo”, the new film starring Liam Neeson and Kevin James.
“Taken 2″ was totally fucking stupid but it was still more entertaining than “Looper.”
…Can I haz A CHEEZBURGER from ur buwoowoo… Your burgeegee… Your hacklewoowoo?
gonna take you to the zoo the blood zoo
Oh man, I’ve been waiting for a new episode since the last episode.
Smile so we can see Plinkett’s shit in your teeth.
smile so we can see the shit in yours.
shit so we can see the corn in yours.
Corn so we can shit the teeth in Plinkett.
Theres a shit storm coming bubbles!
Shit is sexy, now let’s all have a corn-ballin’, shit storm, of shit in eachother’s winkies!
As opposed to since the next episode?..
havent watched this yet but looper was rubbish and i haven’t seen dredd but it’s getting great reviews which is surprising. let’s see what you think…
can anybody give a link to illegal download of Feeding Frenzy?
Just buy it ya cheap sack of shit – It’s only twelve bucks
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT!!! Now please never come back to our website. Ever.
wow that got a reply within 10 minutes. hmm…
Don’t mess with redletterjay.
But he’s right.
If you are going to pirate their stuff,don’t advertise it here like an idiot.
These bro’s do good work, so yea, people can at least support their efforts by purchasing their products.
Based God Jay. Lil B told me to thank Red Letter Media for being trill.
Well now I want to go and host a torrent of that movie just because you’re a douche.
Nothing would impel me to actually watch it, however.
Update: Apparently there are many, many torrents of a movie called Feeding Frenzy. Unfortunately it’s a (presumably unrelated) porno.
unrelated? the red letter media porno remains unmade..
“I want to fuck more!”
So he is a douche because he reacted to some asshole saying (on their site even!) he wants to steal their stuff … ?
Honestly,kids these days…
Yeah what a dickhead! How dare he not want people to steal from him!
Like any other time travel movie it has plot holes galore. But, I thought the action was good.I also enojyed the character arcs and I thought a lot of the direction were good as well. It is a servicable movie.
kid blue and abe were the same person
not father and son
it would make no sense to send kid blue’s dad back in time to run things
he’d be like 90
Apart from the fact that Kid Blue dies when he’s on the motorbike…
fun fact: Robocop took inspiration from the Dredd comics.
Fun Fact: Ed Neumier (writer and producer of RoboCop) was working on a Dredd film before he wrote RoboCop, he failed to secure the rights.
really you guys haven’t seen The Raid yet? As 80ish as Dredd was The Raid did a much better job IMO of capturing that 80′s feel. In fact I’m not even sure if the movie used CGI at all, if it did they toned it way down so I wouldn’t notice unlike Dredd that shoved all their CGI scenes in your face.
DREDD is a futuristic sci-fi film about authoritarian fascists; the Raid is a martial arts film, your comparison is complete bunk.
when did I say they were copying each other? Never that’s when. The only thing the same about them is they are both going for that 80′s action movie feel which one did better than the other IMO. Also news flash 80′s action movies had plenty of futuristic authoritarian fascists (Escape from L.A.) and martial arts (every fucking jean claude van damme movie). Get a clue.
I never said they were copying each other. If you had a clue, you’d realise I was talking about the CGI and with DREDD being a Sci-Fi film, of course it used more.
Jay and Mike are (Booze) !
Posted on fb but this may be the better place…..
watch the vid. Anyone know how to resolve the issue when it says
“advertisement playing” but it just hangs with a little blue rectangle
on the bottom of the screen? I’m up to date on flash etc if that has anything to do with it.
intermittently and has only reared it’s ugly annoying head since the
update to the vid player. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks guys. If
not, thanks anyway.
Not sure what happened to the formatting… I’m just terrible
Closest we will get to a live action Akira
FUCK YOU, RICK BERMAN!!!
Here’s a list of the comparisons of Dredd to The Raid
Owns an apartment building
Gang bangers trying to kill cops
Drug lord orders gang members to kill police over a microphone
Fight sequence in a drug lab
Corrupt Police department
One cop versus everyone
Drug lord dies at the end
I actually like both movies, and I think it’s worth noting that Dredd’s filming began in november 2010, while The Raid began in march 2011, just that the latter was released before the former
But does Dredd have a awesome brutal fire axe to the neck scene and stabbing first to the chest, then stomach fight choreography?
Aww, I was kinda liking the office environment, but I can’t tell if its a set or not so I can understand dropping it too.
Also, Do you rehearse/do multiple takes? I can’t tell if it’s good acting or you’re genuinely talking to each other about the film the first time during these shows.
I’m not sure if they need multiple takes, but they definitely edit large segments out, so they could very well just talk for an hour and only show the entertaining segments
Why aren’t your movies on itunes I actually have money on there and I need to spend it on something, dammit.
So that Hotdog, where do I buy one from?
the Plinkett is *obviously* faking it.
The thing about the original Judge Dredd comic is that Dredd is supposed to be a pastiche of fascism. It seems the new movie reflects that much better than the Stallone one. I look forward to watching it when it comes out on Blu-ray.
Why don’t you support it at the cinema instead?
The creators of the film have said that they won’t be able to make a sequel unless it makes $50 million in the box office. It’s a shame that people like you aren’t supporting it while it’s in theaters. It’s totally worth the price of a ticket. It was an awesome film.
Maybe they should’ve kept it in theaters longer than a 3 weeks
Maybe people should’ve gone to see it.
That’s right, Jay!
Haven’t read the comic book, huh? Big shock.
Dredd: Great action, okay story.
Looper: Great story, okay action.
Simple as that.
You guys were weider than ever.
I love it.
Is Plinkett blind? No? Then why does he wear sunglasses everywhere he goes?
Because his gaze might melt the universe.
I know what Jacqueline Bisset’s secret is: when the next Plinkett review is coming out.
I saw Dredd twice, Carpenter mixed with Verhoeven is exactly what I thought. Damn I want this fucker to get a sequel.
It fucking deserves one.
The sequel as said would be based on the Democracy arc of the Judge Dredd comics, and thus i’d love to see an adaptation of the Democracy stories.
Glad you enjoyed Dredd. My film of the year. Looper wasn’t too bad either.
Who would rob Mr. Plinkett?
That would be agreat twist.
The Raid: Redemption is one of the best action movies I’ve ever seen, although I’m more than up to see DREDD, no matter what the similarities are. Also down for LOOPER when it comes out on DVD.
BTW, Bisset getting nude is the only advantage of watching SECRETS, which is about a husband, wife, and daughter who all have sexual experiences through the day, yet they must keep quiet. Trust me, Mr. Plinkett: jacking off to Bisset isn’t enough to watch.
I actually bought Feeding Frenzy and watched it. Amazing. One of the funniest movies I’ve seen in a long while, if not the goriest.
That’s not how “if not” works.
Just got home from playing a concert at a venue here in copenhagen. Coming home from a good gig to find a new episode of my favourite internetshow is just about the loveliest thing in the world!
Quit bragging you can play music.
Where can i here your stuff on the interwebs?
Almost got me there
Listening to our music would not be completely worthwhile as of yet, but we are working on making some good demos. This is a primitive recording from a rehearsal some moths back:
You make Mr. Fake Plinkett dementia.
Me laugh out loud.
so what the fuck is up with this 90 second advertisement bullshit?
seriously WHAT THE FUCK? i have a 90 second advertisment that wont even fucking load, and within that 90 minute advert, i get another tgif sub-advert?! WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK. ARE U GUYS FUCKING RETARDED
As far as I remember there are two scenes in Dredd that I felt are almost mirror images when compared to The Raid. First one is the execution + introducing the main baddie scene – though they are visually different (Raid – bad guy uses the revolver then a hammer to execute his victims, Dredd – bad guy lets her goons do the work for her) the underlying similarities are hidden in establishing how brutal and heartless the main antagonist is. The second one is bad guy contacting the residents of the apartment block and notifying them of the situation via intercom system.
There are also multitude of other little similar details – bad guy closing off the apartment block from the outside world, getting help from one of the residents to hide in their apartment, a supposedly good guy(s) turning out to be a bad guy(s), finding a full-blown drug lab on one of the floors, cameras monitoring your every move, one of the good guy(Raid)/girl(Dredd) falling to the hands of the bad guys.
I’m sure someone in the future will do the scene-by-scene comparison on youtube – maybe it’ll be Redlettermedia (nudge-nudge-wink-wink).
All that being said, these are only similarities. At no point did I feel as if one movie was intentionally lifting scenes from another. Plus it’s important to remember that filming on Dredd started in November 2010, while filming The Raid began in March 2011.
The Raid in it’s execution is a lot more straightforward, while Dredd actually makes you think more about and feel for the characters (like Jay and Mike point out) – a rare treat when it comes to an action movie.
Looper is also an awesome movie. It reminded me of 12 Monkeys minus the apocalyptic virus plot.
I would personally recommend Dredd over Looper, simply because Looper is doing fine in the box office, and Dredd is in serious danger of falling into the one-of-the-best-movies-of-the-year-no-one-saw category (a la Kick-Ass) and not reaching it’s production budget. If one needs an incentive, Olivia Thirlby in her fake blond wig looks so frakking hot and vulnerable that her suggestive interracial rape scene made me come a little.
The make up on JGL to look like Bruce was hit or miss. Certain times I thought it looked pretty good, at least passable. But other times just looked horrible. I don’t know if it was certain angles or what.
His lips were fucking huge.
My issues with Looper:
A Blunderbuss? Why did they use such a strange and bizarre weapon? You can’t hit anything further then fifteen yards away? I was puzzling the entire movie why he held onto this dumb weapon.
10% of everyone magically gets telekinesis? Huh? What? How did this happen? Why did people become mutants? None of this is ever explained. I’m okay with cars getting solar panels stapled onto them in the future, but everybody getting TK is a little harder to buy. This was of course needed for the Rainmaker plotline… which I also wasn’t a fan of.
In the future, killing someone is way too difficult because people are tagged. Okay, but apparently kidnapping is a piece of cake and arouses no suspicions? The tags don’t work against kidnapping?
This crime syndicate has control over the entire city, to the point where he can send out loud noisy helicopters at all hours? There aren’t any police? No local government? Really?
Joe is not a likeable protagonist. This guy has killed hundreds of people, just judging by how many silver bars he’s stashed away. Not to mention that he quickly gives up his “best friend” to an incredibly gruesome fate. Then in the future, he runs low on cash and ends up doing hits in China, killing tons more people. This guy is a huge scumbag.
Okay, so he eventually settles down and marries a much younger Chinese woman. Fine, that montage was cool. But we find out he carries a watch with her picture in it, and he’s constantly struggling to remember her throughout the story. This is supposed to be the emotional core of the movie, but… it’s not executed well at all. I mean, it’s like the picture of Sarah Connor that Kyle Reese carries with him in Terminator 1, obviously. Or the picture that Marty carries with him in Back to the Future. That’s what Rian Johnson’s going for, I bet. But the picture of Sarah Connor actually paid off in the end. Here, I didn’t feel like that watch was all that meaningful. Once Young Joe hooks up with Emily Blunt’s character, you’re expecting a scene where the picture on the watch changes from the Chinese woman to Blunt. Or something. Something should happen with that watch. But we don’t get that. I dunno, it felt like a wasted opportunity.
They can control where the time machine teleports people to. We see that Joe’s hits always teleport out to an empty cornfield, while Paul Dano’s hits teleport out to a parking lot. And Bruce Willis enters the time machine when it’s located in China somewhere. So… if they have this much control, why don’t they just teleport the victims back to a location a couple miles under the ocean?
Old Joe busts in and wipes out Jeff Daniels and his entire gang. But we never actually see how he breaks out of Kid Blue’s cuffs. He just randomly shoots Kid Blue even though he’d been taken captive?
The entire Rainmaker plotline makes up the second half of the movie but it never felt compelling or interesting. Hell, we never even see the Rainmaker in the future, except for a shitty 5 second newsfeed. Why am I supposed to care about this Rainmaker at all? You never see how he affected the future, so you feel nothing. And the whole thing with the kid was like this random Carrie reenactment thrown into the movie. I didn’t care about the kid, cause you could clearly see he needed to be killed. Jesus Christ, yelling at Emily Blunt over and over like that? I’m with Bruce Willis, end his life. Of course, the levitation scenes also reminded me of Chronicle, which is a rather unfortunate coincidence, because I cared a lot more about Chronicle’s characters then these characters.
Bruce Willis has normal looking lips, I think. So why the hell did Joseph Gordon-Levitt need huge fucking prosthetic lips? That thing on his mouth really distracted me.
And yes, I did wonder about how Emily Blunt knew about loopers.
Why is young Joe learning French? It’s to get away and move to France. Okay, but is he doing this to try to escape the mafia men coming to get him in the future? That’s understandable, but doesn’t he know that this is futile since he’ll have closed his loop, thus knowing that he eventually will get caught?
And btw, how do these seemingly dumb mafia guys track down a guy in China after 30 years? Are they all Sherlock Holmes? How can they be so damn good at tracking loopers down? China in the future probably has a population of three billion. These mafia guys found old Joe in that? Really?
And now that I think about it, how does the present criminal syndicate immediately know that a looper has failed to close his loop? In the movie, young Joe hands in his blunderbuss and some of the silver bars. I guess that’s meant to show that he did his job. But then… couldn’t he just do this without killing the victims? Just take some of their silver and let them go? The body ends up in a furnace, so there’s no evidence. Yet right after Paul Dano and young Joe fail their assignments, the crime lord somehow immediately knows that they let their victims go. How?
It’s almost impossible to murder someone in the future, but they rather quickly shoot and kill old Joe’s Chinese wife. Huh? Why didn’t they just kill both of them and leave them in that burning house? Why go to the trouble of sending old Joe back in time? If you have to use time travel, why not send old Joe’s wife’s body back in time?
In the montage of Joe through the years, we see him killing a whole hell of a lot of people in China. But wait… wasn’t it almost impossible to kill people in the future and get away with it? How is he doing this?
They never explained why the Rainmaker was closing all the loops. You might say it was because his mother was killed by a Looper. But this would be incorrect, a Looper did not kill his mother. In the first iteration of the timeline, young Joe kills old Joe and goes off to Shanghai and gets married. Joe never meets Cid. Cid and Sarah live on a farm in peace. So Cid would have no reason to hate loopers. Then we hear that the Rainmaker is now closing all the loops. Why is he doing this?!
All valid questions, so:
Fuck you.You just ruined the movie for me.Now I have to have it explained.
Why do anything in a movie? Most of the stuff you complain about are just to create the universe that Looper lives in. Other things, you just didn’t pay attention.
The guns were status symbols – low men got the shitty guns.
TK is part of several themes used in the story.
If everyone is tagged, someone driving and someone being kidnapped is identical.
The movie showed you people getting shot in public with little reaction from the people. It’s spelled out rather clear that crime is prevalent world-wide.
Joe is a scumbag, and? Guess you never watched any crimeflix like Goodfellas. You’re point is dumb.
The picture was just an external symbol for old Joe’s singular motivation. If the picture “changed” in the movie, then old Joe would instantaneously disappear. This movie clearly defined it’s philosophy of time travel. The watch is also an important item for both Joes as they are both attached to it — it’s probably a nod to Pulp Fiction.
Old Joe is wise and surrounded by kids. The reason he exists is because he already learned how to free his hands. Did you forget? They already showed him doing it.
The Rainmaker is a MacGuffin. You don’t see what’s in the briefcase either in Pulp Fiction and it’s not germane to the plot anyways.
The prosthetics where a distraction – so you’re score is now a ’1′ out of a zillion.
Blunt knows about loopers because crime is prevalent and loopers are kids that throw around their money and brag about their status.
Joe is learning French because of the waitress – did you forget what name was scarred into Joe’s arm?
How could anyone not be tracked down in the future? Forget about the trackers?
Closed loop knowledge? Don’t know – don’t care. It’s the future. They didn’t explain who invented time travel either and it doesn’t matter to the plot.
Someone already explained the killed wife here. Go read it.
There obviously was a period of time were killing people was still reasonable, but he had to retire.
The entire movie was a paradox. The existence of Old Joe is only possible because of 2 possible parallel timelines. One timeline contains a pissed of Rainmaker and the movie exists in it. Jesus, fuck, don’t you understand anything about time travel??
“You’re point is dumb.”
Hah. Thanks for the laugh.
Dissecting fascism and its consequences in perpetuating the violence and unrest it claims to fight against is in fact what the comic is about. Not that I expect Mike to suddenly start reading comics just because of a cool movie.
You guys should watch Dredd because it’s not making any fucking money.
Hobo with a Shotgun, Robocop gory?
Why is there TK in the movie?!
It adds texture to the “Looper” universe. It’s the same reason why there are status symbol guns, eye-drop designer drugs, and rusted out hybrid cars. It sells the premise that this is the future and some fantastical things are now possible and common.
It continues the theme of immature people playing with and abusing power. TK’s float coins to try to “get laid”, kids are gangster pawns, time travel is controlled by the mob, children are sold, vagrants are shot at will. Lets not forget how the Rainmaker is going to use it.
It gives young Joe a reason to kill the Rainmaker child – he’s not just a helpless normal child. After seeing the kid ‘asplode’ a guy in anger, he sees the kid as the monster that killed his “first” mom and will slaughter many – likely his “current” mom too. As an added bonus, old Joe would likely just go away as well if he splatters that baby brain all over the cornfield. No old Joe means no group of people hunting him down. I think young Joe did not choose wisely.
I’m just going to go ahead and say it.
The only reason why I would bother to see Hotel Transilvania is because it’s directed by Genddy Tartakovsky and it’ll bring him a step closer to a proper Samurai Jack ending.
You guys always seem to have a great time with these, cracking up at each others jokes, I love it, keep it up!
I’m one of those guys who usually comes here and tells you how unfunny you are and how bad each episode is. So take it from me when I say, this episode was awesome. One of the best ones yet. You focused on the movie reviews, you talked about the movies a lot, you kept the skits short and unobtrusive, and skits weren’t painful at all. Well done, bravo, etc.
Hey, asshole…if you dont like the shows why keep coming back???
These movie reviews were quite boring. Movie reviews can be informative, but unlike the Star Wars prequel reviews you don’t really say anything deep about the art of making movies in these. In the prequel reviews you were passionate about something and put together a brilliant analysis of what was wrong. These are just a couple of bros chatting off the cuff with a little amateur theatrics on the side. Not worth 40 minutes. Seems like half-assed filler designed to keep people watching the site.
“Seems like half-assed filler designed to keep people watching the site.”
Uh, …, works for me.
Are you not familiar with Half in the Bag? “A couple of bros chatting off the cuff with a little amateur theatrics on the side” is exactly what it’s about. The full-on Plinkett reviews take a lot of effort but Half in the Bag is quick and dirty.
40 minutes is pushing it for what they had to say. The Resident Evil thing last time was worse.
Clearly you haven’t seen the behind the scenes videos of them building sets for Half in the Bag themselves. Far from “half-assed.” And the show certainly isn’t “filler”…it’s been their main content for over a year now.
As opposed to those oh-so-infomative 30-second reviews on CBS Sunday Morning – or on CNN Headline news – which amount to useless fluff pieces
Hahaha, it would have been so great if after Jay got poked in the eyes he had bandages taped over them and was just nodding along
And thanks for the insight about small stories within larger sci-fi worlds. It was exactly the failure of JOHN CARTER (OF MARS) that it had to tack on the save-the-world story, when it could have been a wonderful smaller story of friendship, romance, and action (which would also have been much truer to the original material as well). It then would have had a smaller budget and even if not hugely successful it would not have become the epic financial bomb it has now become.
I want to see both of these, but I’m a poor college student, so I may have to stick with one. Um……shit, they both sound awesome.
wait, and redbox it
The Dredd plot sounds exactly like the plot of The Raid: Redemption
Here’s a Dredd / Raid Timeline –
2007/2008 Alex garland writes first drafts of Dredd ‘Peach Trees’ screenplay.
12/2008: Alex Garland publicly named as Dredd screenwriter.
09/2009: Artist, Mark ‘Jock” Simpson confirms he has been creating visuals off of Garland’s Dredd script.
05/2010: Dredd creator, John Wagner, confirms Dredd script is written.
07/2010: Version 8 of Dredd script is leaked online.
07/2010: Late July, Todd Brown confirms working with Gareth Evans on Berandal.
08/2010: Somewhere between Aug. ’10 & Nov. ’10, Gareth Evans shelves the film Berandal due to budget and begins work on The Raid script.
08/2010: Pre-production on Dredd begins.
11/2010: Pre-production on Raid begins.
11/2010: Dredd begins filming and finishes in Feb.’11.
03/2011: Raid begins filming (unsure of finish date).
Note: Evans has said he found out about the Dredd script during Raid post-production and rushed the release of Raid to get it out first.
Or you could have saved all that trouble and just said New Jack City came out in 1991
Do the next one on bath salts.
Nothing about this positive review made me want to see Looper at all
And what is anyone supposed to do with this information?
Could care less what you do with it. I was commenting on the review – which is pretty much what the comments section is for
Go cum in your pants over the latest Bond movie, or Hobbit movie, or whatever else Hollywood tells you is good
Know that, since Drive, everytime you recommend another movie, an extra movie ticket gets sold in Belgium
ON THE PHONE:
serriously should have put a spoiler alert, anyways great vid
Animated movies tend to cost 80 mil or more, usually more. Hotel T has the budget of Paranorman and half the budget of How To Train Your lizard
Another great episode! I definitely recommend checking out ‘The Raid,’ if only for comparison’s sake.
Damn. I want to work as a VCR repair guy.
I loved Dredd. I thought it was a better movie than the Dark Knight by far.
Your punishment must be more severe.
Hey, assholes….I hope you guys aren’t selling out and getting paid to recommend shitty movies like “Looper” now. If you guys genuinely like this crap I’m shocked…..you sit there picking over all the plot holes in a great movie like “Prometheus” then hardly mention one from the 100s that are in this shitty mess. If the movie was fast paced and entertaining then all the holes wouldn’t matter but after the first 40 minutes they spend the rest of the movie stuck in a fucking farmhouse talking shit right the way up until the tedious and predictable ending.
Go to Rotten Tomatoes. Did ALL those critics get paid to give it good reviews too? Not liking the movie is one thing, but that’s an idiotic accusation to make. Are you 12 years old?
Don’t you think they would have been paid by George Lucas and other crap producing folk with huge ammounts of money to sell their crap by now?
Prometheus, great? Not even Lindelof thinks that.
The way you describe it, Judge Dredd sounds like a good video game.
I figured out the secret of Plinkett’s house, how it shows the street in one shot and that brick wall when he opens the door. It’s like Howl’s Moving Castle with the door that rotates between cities. That’s how Plinkett can have a street address in Teaneck, New Jersey and in Wisconson, or wherever the crap Mike lives.
In Canada, Looper is rated “14 Years”. We’re not as uptight about boobs, and indeed the rest of the content felt safe for a more general audience.
And there’s one time travel movie where the “branching timeline” logic is absolutely airtight: Primer. …oh, and 12 Monkeys adds up perfectly with the “only one timeline” approach.
Who’s uptight about boobs? Certainly not the filth-strewn American media, yikes.
robocop bit was the best, also gotta love how ‘mericans pronounce Verhoeven
Do you guys take personal checks?
No. But you can E-mail them a pizza roll
The video isn’t playing for me.
I know for a fact that Mike and Jay have seen all the Star Wars prequels, AND the Resident Evil movies. That’s why you don’t have any feelings anymore.
If you guys want to see a real film noir movie with black and white by Rian Johnson (and also with Joseph Gordon Levitt), then you should see Brick. It’s on Netflix Instant Watch. It’s definitely worth watching, but I’d watch every movie Rian Johnson makes at this point.
The only reason people are posting positive reactions to HALF IN THE BAG is because they’re desperate for another Plinkett review. “Maybe if I pretend I like their boring as fuck blogcast, they’ll hurry up with whatever the next Plinkett thing they’re working on might be!” Which, if it’s KILL BILL or THE MATRIX, will be a gigantic WHO GIVES A FUCK.
God, the There Will Be Blood rant was pure genius. Thank you, because it perfectly illustrates those 12 year old reviewers who have no idea what they’re talking about.
Thank You for making an episode on Dredd! Awesome episode. You guys are the best!
Btw the director of Dredd wanted to show exactly what you said about the Dredd’s violence and the justification for it. You got that perfectly.
The movie needs more support, it deserves it! Guessing it won’t have much chance at the cinemas anymore, so everybody needs to get the BlueRay n Dvd when they come out.
Here’s hoping for a Dredd 2, There is a whole universe to explore that I’m dying to see in this style!
I think the exception to Jay’s time-travel movie rule is Primer. They do it exceedingly well.
You know, guy on right is getting fucking dumber and dumber by each episode. I can find faults in his comments and reviews in every single episode last months. Step the fuck up and stop being stupid and say stupid things.
Also your comments on the Prometheus movie makes you an ass 4life and you are just as dumb as those whom love star wars episode 1.
The return of Plinkett! YAY!
Looper is a western, through and through.
This player is better than the previous ones!
I love when the selling point of a movie is “It feels like you’re watching a movie”
Shameless product placement at the end haha. It’s ok. I forgive you. Feeding Frenzy is quite entertaining.
Did Bruce phone it in in Moonrise? Haven’t seen it… wondering if he’s turning a corner or Looper was a fluke.
His performance in Moonrise was pretty flat and lifeless. But then that
is the style of the film – and nearly every actor in it acted like they
were dead inside
Telekinesis in the movie was unnecessary
See what you did there haha
Paul Verhoeven also directed Showgirls… You can’t explain that.
Stop trying to sound like a smart arse……”Looper” is nothing like “12 Monkeys” and therefore “La Jetee” was of zero influence. It’s like saying “20,000 Leagues Under The Sea” was an influence on “The Hunt For Red October” because they both had submarines.
But at the end of Looper, it reminds me of La Jetee in a way.
News Flash, assholes: Green Bay was NOT “robbed”. They LOST. To the fuckin’ SEAHAWKS. The Packers are NOT that good.
To your recommendation: You spoke about Judge Dredd for approx. 5 minutes. Whereas . . . y’all could not shut your YAPS about ‘Looper’.
I’ve watched THE RAID. It’s over-rated. Though, Jay will probably enjoy the **sickening violence** therein.
I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that you don’t have a very fulfilling social life.
Opening this ep — by bitching about a football from two an’ a half weeks ago — is pretty tacky.
I’m going to state the obvious: You have ZERO social life.
Your mama is overrated…
Half in the Bag : My Little Pony! Please?
Not watching Dredd because it’s in fucking 3D. I don’t care how fucking good it is I am not wearing 3D glasses on top of my regular glasses, and having to pay extra 10 bucks for it.
You do realize that most films released in 3D are also released with a 2D alternative, right?
I Have to state that it’s ironic that when they both like Dredd in 3D, they did not complained about using 3D as the time when they reviwed another movie in 3D some time from now… it’s as ironic as when Judge Dredd threw Mama through the 200th floor with the slow mo inhaled having Mama doing that previously with her prisioners. I just wanted to point that out, I really thought that Mike and Jay were gonna stay solid in their arguments and points of view regarding the cinema industry and the many topics it can englobe.
Hey genius, did it ever occur to you that maybe they didn’t see it in 3D?
Hilarious as usual. Thanks you filthy degenerate perverts.
Looper looks interesting. I keep hearing good things about that flick.
I probably won’t bother w/ Dredd. Perhaps, however. I am intrigued by your ‘women secretly love violence’ statement. I think you might-could be on to something.
This Looper is a spinoff of Prometheus? with Bruce Willis as an engineer, who tries to clone himself? Whats is this about dreadlocks 3d?
Pretentious and disgruntled comment about Hotel Transylvania being the directorial debut of animation icon Genndy Tartakovsky.
Pretentious comment about Samurai Jack/Dexter’s Lab/Powerpuff Girls being awesome despite knowing the very scarce number of shits you guys have to give on the subject.
They said nothing about Hotel Transylvania other then it doing better at the box office then Looper. They point they were making was that it was another Adam Sandler film with an over-inflated budget ($85 million). Looper was $30 million in comparison.They talk about why Sandler’s films are so expensive to produce in the Jack and Jill review.
No, I know. I was doing, like, a thing.
Pretentious and self congratulatory comment about your thing being funny and how most people commenting here are to stupid to get it with the genius exception that is my self.
It is also a thing,don’t get your panties in a twist.
Ah, now see you’ve gotta preface comments like that with the warning that it’s a thing. ‘Cause by the time I got down there I’d already irrevocably twisted all the panties in the house.
Give it up for all the twisted panties in da house!
It’s not surprising that the film has that Noir feel. Rian Johnson’s first movie, Brick, was sort of a Noir parody set in high school (actually it was filmed at my high school).
Well I loved Looper and Dredd, and both are ranking as some of my favorite movies this year along with the Master, Dark Knight Rises, and Moonrise Kingdom.
Love the spoilers guys, keep it up! Very Professional!!!
“Jay and Mike talk about…” not review.
I think a lot of the nods in Looper were to classic sci-fi cartoons like Cowboy Bebop and AKIRA, that could be the source material that you guys didn’t see.
Examples: AKIRA and looper are both about troubled youths you gain a radical amount of psychic powers in the future that a lot of other humans share to a lesser extent. The attention to detail was similar and to the same level of Cowboy Bebop in that Looper and CB both have a depression-like future that isn’t apocalyptic, jerry-rigged cars and carefully placed shiny future tech to make the rest of the world look old and haggard. Even down to the eye-dropper drugs that were the same as in Cowboy Bebop’s first episode.
A Noir Western? They should make Red Harvest sooner or later. . . . I know. Bruce Willis and Clint Eastwood need cameos.
BTW, shouldn’t the judges be speaking in english accents?
Jay said that the similarities between The Raid and Judge Dredd start and end with them both taking place in the same building, but Mike’s summary of the plot of Judge Dredd could easily apply to The Raid. Both involve police officers that are trapped in a gangster hotel that have to fight their way out.
Anyone else get distracted by the “Turkey in the straw” music in the background? I fucking guarantee you there is going to be a horror movie with that title in the near future.
Oh guys, can’t you see Dread is everything evil about Hollywood? Pure corporate product and predictive programming to get us ready for the crumbling megacities and 1984 totalitarian society down the road, where the hero is a fascist enforcer murdering people for being potheads– oh there’s some cool violence so it’s a WONDERFUL movie. WTF, your standards are wildly inconsistent
Wow, you couldn’t have missed the point of the movie any more. Never occurred to you that the movie was COMMENTING on fascism, not endorsing or “getting people ready” for it? Don’t blame RLM for you being dense
Really? The hero works for the police state, so what’s the deep “comment” there? Wake up and stop being a sheep afraid to disagree. Since this movie didn’t even make its budget back , at least most people aren’t falling for it. I’m sure me comment will draw mostly mob anger but if you have a shred of humanity, learn to think for yourself.
So anyone that disagrees with you can’t think for themselves and anyone that agrees with exactly what you think isn’t a sheep? Do you see the contradiction there?
Not even remotely what I said man, if you disagree with THEM you generally get a
shitload of dislikes. I mostly like Mike and
Jay’s reviews, but they made a reputation deflating nonsensical
eye-candy movies, yet sometimes discard those rules for empty propaganda like Dredd and
poorly written Plinkett-worthy crap like Prometheus, it’s baffling.
And this character concept itself is offensive, to celebrate government summary execution, do you see the problem there?
Anyway I don’t want to enter a spiral of circular comments so I’ll finish writing about this one, glad HITB is back with episodes.
You must be one of those people who think Heinleins novel Starship Troopers is a fascist propaganda.
Just because something is describing something similar to a fascist system does not mean it’s promoting fascism.
I guess some of you need to have it explicitly and literally declared as anti fascist to get it.
Learn to read between the lines.
I find Dredd to be more a comment on violence in human society than anything else.
Funny that you mention There Will Be Blood alongside Looper because Paul Dano was in both.
The only big issue I have with Looper (loved that film, but this have bothered me since I thought of it) you kill off your older self to ‘close the loop’- so the cops don’t get you to spill? The payoff for doing this is a big pay day and 30 years to spend it.
But for that to work the mafia would have to know where you are.
Joe moves Kansas to China, that’s 30 years of keeping tabs on him, 30 years of reporting on where he is. Just the kind of stuff the cops would love to get hold of to nab him.
That’s a helluva risk to the mafia, if they want to silence the loopers, better to kill them when their contract ended. But then, no one’s going to take the job.
“Daniel Day Lewis phones in all his performances.” LOL Great stuff.
If you want to watch another noir-like film Rian Johnson’s (the director of Looper) first movie Brick is also pretty damn good and has a lot of the same cast as Looper.
Looper was great. Haven’t seen Dredd yet. Nice review btw. Mike and Jay looked so pumped up.
The thing that bugs me, a little bit, about Looper is the reason for the assassinations have to be done in the past. We see the police rushed, twice, to Abe’s club/hideout to help him find the two Joes. They don’t even try to hide the fact that they are working for the Mafia – bringing flashing squad cars and wearing uniform in broad daylight while entering a known Mafia hideout. We even see police helicopters working with Mafia foot soldiers tearing the city apart looking for the Joes.
So why are they sending targets to the past when obviously the police, the authority, is under Mafia control for decades? Why are they scared of the future’s perfect human tracking system when they control the authority and the law? Besides, everyone seems to know about Loopers in the past.-even by some cane-planting former nurse.
Didn´t know, that Mike narrates ufo-documentaries… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqN-KLOCS5k&feature=relmfu
The gfirst half of Looper I really injoyed but then they got to the farm and I reallt started to hate the film big time. The ending left a plot hole a mile wide.
Not enough horrific violence, except for all the Saw movies, and Hostel movies, and all the others.
I’ve given up on “the movies” in favor of saving money and watching Mike’s interpretation.
Well… we should have done some dance-ish stuff… would be more interesting to watch?
None of the reviews of Looper I’ve seen have mentioned how awesome that little kid was. Damn. He was better than Bruce Willis.
I`ve seen THE RAID , and it`s really similar. It would be a shame if this is just a hack.
this is nice, but we all kinda miss plinkett’s reviews
would you please watch all the harry potters and give us your opinion?
the second made me say WTF (what the fuck).
I’d love Jay’s creamy man sauce all over my HRRRNNNNGGGGGG
why do they keep uploading these videos to this host?
their player is shockingly bad.
I can’t see what their aversion to youtube is.
I can’t help but notice that on your phone, there’s no phone line connecting to the jack. Perhaps next time you might consider connecting a phone line to your brown phone.
I don’t like that fake Plinkett, guys. I miss the real one. The one in the wheel chair with hookers in the basement. That guy was awesome!!! I really miss his reviews.
You ought to give “In Time” a chance. I was really bothered when you didn’t do a review of it and now your quick rejection of it here…I don’t know man, I really liked it.
whats scary is that I have that same wall clock
There is one time travel movie that isn’t completely broken: Primer. Of course, it leaves your head hurting after watching it.
I don’t know if anyone else has said this (I’m not wasting MY time reading all y’all’s dumbass comments!), but watching LOOPER I was struck by how much better an Origin Story the little boy’s arc in this film would have made for the Anakin Skywalker backstory: Little Boy With Immense Power (substitute Force for Telekinesis) witnesses the violent end of his mother and starts showing signs of violence and darkness based on this early trauma. Young Anakin is then spirited away from his grim homeland to live with a Jedi master because the only hope for taming this immense power of his is to bring him wholly over to the Light Side of the Force. Substitute LOOPER’s Loving Mom for an older, wiser but world-weary and slightly arrogant Ben Kenobi who thinks he can shut Anakin of this trauma through Jedi training, but Anakin — like the little kid in LOOPER — must constantly struggle with balancing his knee-jerk, destructive rage.
This was the most fascinating aspect of LOOPER for me, the idea of how such immense power in so small a child is tucked away beneath the most fragile counterbalance there is: Love. If Ben lost Anakin to Padme — or even better, sort of handed him over in the hopes that her love and devotion could heal Anakin and keep him from blowing people up with his brain — then the prequel could have kept us in constant suspense wondering if Padme’s love (like the Rainmaker’s mom’s) would be enough to keep Anakin sane and on the Light Side. Even though we all know it wasn’t.
trust me, a lot of us have thought the same thing. In fact, I’d say we imagined this is what Anakin would be like before the prequels were even announced (I know this is how I imagined him). Oh what COULD have been. Hopefully Lucas stays far, far away from the next one.
14:02…. . . sooooo funny.. you guys are the best reviewers ever…
The only ones i trust.. not that I always agree with you .. but man..
your show is exactly like talking to my mates after a film.
Feeding Frenzy is great, I own it and so should you!
Haven’t seen Dredd but I like that it isn’t a “save the world” type of film Hollywood always wants to do inexplicably with serial characters. Not every story has to be the big epic story of epicness. Then there’s cliche storyline like in the Stallone version of Dredd where the main character gets stripped of their power/authority and has to fight to get it back which is nothing about the original character!
Haha… oh wow… makes me wonder
Taken to the Zoo! hahahahaha
The Wayans brothers are doing a movie called “Paranormal Activity Schmacktivity”…..GET IT? The Wayans brothers. Cause they are stup….ehhh nevermind.
They kill the woman? This is not a plot hole actually.
As clearly mentioned in the movie, the mysterious Rainmaker appears in the
future, gaining control over every clan and (supposedly over government)
and begins to cancel the “looper-project” by.. you know how.
This is not a plot hole. They can kill people and just don’t give a damn from that point.
Great observation that Bruce Willis hasn’t cared about a performance in a long time. See: Surrogates.
Well, the whole point about the Dredd character is that he has no feelings and only cares about ‘the law’. In the comics he did horrible things to people just because they crossed the street on red light and did not bat an eye. Good show though, guess you’ve got a new regular here.
and thus another Sunday disappears in a haze of Red Letter Media.
where did bag o gouls live before cameras were invented, in cave paintings?
The guy that played Admiral Paris in Voyager that you showed was Richard Herd. The characters was also played by Warren Munson at one point.
You guys should review, Primer.
really see it.
In the Raid and Dredd, the similarities go beyond a single location. Both have a drug making room, a lockdown of the building, the characters having to escape, the one in control of the building coming on the microphone and offering rewards for killing the heroes. There’s a lot more
The reason they didn’t worry about killing the wife in the future was because the person they were working for was either in charge or was taking over.
Wait, what, who, wait wha? Was that the voice of plinket just before the break or whatever it was?
That’s fake Plinkett. Watch all the videos, it’ll be explained to you.
Watched Dredd because of this episode, and I too found it thoroughly engaging. Thanks for the recommendation!
I just finished watching Dredd. Words cannot express the depths of my disappointment…
…at the fact that this film was a box office flop. This movie went above and beyond my expectations. It’s one of the best action movies I’ve seen in a long time. I also saw Looper, which was decent, but I enjoyed Dredd more. I’m not going to do a lengthy comparison here, though.
I’d go as far as to say that Anderson is really the protagonist of this film. She’s relatable, likable, and has an arc. Dredd doesn’t really have an arc, but that’s okay because he doesn’t need one. He’s a fucking hardened badass and sharp as a tack, yet he isn’t completely without humanity, which makes him likable (at least to me). He’s really more of a mentor character than anything, which is, frankly, pretty refreshing.
Another great thing about this movie is they set up a lot of things and then every single one of those things pays off. I won’t go into detail here because spoilers, but I appreciate that kind of consistency.
I also liked the visual style and feel of the film. It’s a nice example of “used future”. And I liked that the Slo-Mo sequences actually served the story rather than just being boring SFX wankery. Also those sequences didn’t look cheap.
In a way, I’m a little glad this film didn’t do well, because that means we won’t get an endless parade of increasingly shitty sequels.
Looper was pretentious crap. I’m not even concerned about the time travel crap, but the entire high-concept was poorly-executed and pretentious.
I just realized that the new Dredd movie is called Dredd 3d…and that there’s 3 d’s in the name Dredd…coincidence?
I loved Looper. It’s raises interesting questions, it’s fun, and it has emotional weight. The ending really doesn’t work on a logical level, but it made the girls I went see it with in theaters cry like small children and I can’t say I didn’t shed a manly tear or two. I would say the movie is a mixture of The Terminator and 12 Monkey’s (which also has Bruce Willis going back in time to stop an evil group from creating a dystopian future).
A realistic depiction of modern White men deep into individualism with no sense of empathy.
Whereas you’re overflowing with empathy.. right?
The Judge Dredd comic actually touches on the society perpetuating the issue with the Democracy storyline. Where by the Judges accept they have lost control of the situation and they’re basically hanging on by power alone and offer the citizens a vote on the matter of whether to abolish Judges and reinstate democracy. And the citizens vote it down. They’re so used to the system of Judges and the fascism of the state they vote to keep the Judges in power despite how the society is. Dredd is actually pretty realistic take on the comics which is my favourite thing about it
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