Jay and Mike talk about another new Marvel film. Marvel at their amazing conversation! There’s even a cameo by Stan Lee!
Filed in: Half in the Bag
Dr. Stranger Things….
Dr. Queer not Dr. Strange
mike said the movie was weird, but I disagree. It needed to be weirder, stranger. if you get a chance to read Dr. Strange: What is it That Disturbs You, Stephen? its a graphic novel/one shot that has some good weird stuff.
Couldn’t see Hack Fraud Ridge…
First my standard plead for an animated movie review. Please Mike review Moana, just for once review an animated movie, I’m begging you
Ok, now for my opinion on this movie
If it wasn’t for the actors and Dan Harmon oneliners this would have been kinda boring with more technobabble than a weaker Star Trek Next Gen episode for some convolutated plot for a bland villain that an almost inconsquential pawn for Not Thanos, I wish this movie was more simpler instead of constantly telling me what are Dr Strange characterisitcs are, over explained themes, and confusing world building that I just barely understand
But the effects were good, though maybe I would enjoy this movie more with a fast foward button
Please, stop begging them to review animation. They just have little interest in animation, and they also don’t give a fuck about requests. It’s getting sad that you keep spamming every post on this site with this shit.
If Cubs fans can be patient, so can I
It’s not going to happen.
If you’re so desperate for animation reviews, go look up reviewers who specialize in it on Youtube like mrenter.
Eh that guy is no RebelTaxi
If you know of RebelTaxi and mrenter, then why are you wasting your time trying to get RLM to review animation? They’re not into cartoons, it’s stupid to keep whining about it when there’s so many other alternatives from people who probably know more about the craft than these guys.
Are they experts with Sandler movies, Mike himself is not even a big superhero fan, and probably just review these movies for easy targets and large audiences
Mike himself don’t foward to these schlock blockbusters, so why not review animated movies particularly with great reviews, and are also would be as popular as a Marvel movies
Animated movies can be easily critique as any other movies, with plot, actors, and effects, it’s not that hard, or maybe even easier ton watch than a Bayformer movie
I heard the Star Trek music too. Blew my mind.
He goes to Nepal guys not Hong Kong..
They don’t review them because they are not interested in them. It’s as simple as that. RLM isn’t going to suddenly cater to you because you keep pleading for animation reviews. You’ve been at it for years now, and it’s beginning to border on trolling at this point.
Spoiler: Tilda Swinton’s mind is taken over by V’Ger.
I agree with Mike. I hope they end up making Thanos a completely evil motherfucker that is cruel and smart and powerful, but flesh him out enough so that you get he’s completely batshit insane
I’m just so curious on Mike opinion an animated movies, and would like to watch a different kind of review
Besides begging is not a typical troll move
I think we’re losing Mike to Dormammu.
Darkseid was way better at the DCAU, who personally scews over Superman, instead of being so lazy sitting down
Thanos is just some purple cgi blob to me, with nothing interesting, especially like most Marvel Villains, it’s impersonal for the main characters
He’s never shown a high opinion of animation. Typically he’s referred to it as stuff for ‘babies’ or for families. I don’t get why you think he’d give any animated movies an in-depth review the way you seem to want him/RLM to.
So that way Mike opinion can change
Besides how lazy and terrible a movie critic has to be dismiss a whole genre of movies, which Animation isn’t even a genre as Brad Bird said, Mike seem much more objective as a critic
Mike could have reviewed Sausage Party or something by Ghibli
rikki i don’t know why you keep replying. this guy is trolling you.
If he’s trolling me, he sucks at it.
I don’t use cheap slurs, but instead provide an argument on film analysis and art, I don’t like to be lazy with my discussions
Because I’m NOT trolling, I’m having an artistic discussion
I enjoy complex discussion on movies, not racist slurs
No, you won’t change his mind. It’s incredibly presumptuous of you to think that constant whining in the comments sections of their videos will do anything.
Also, avoiding specific types of movies because one can’t be subjective or because they lack knowledge or simply because they don’t like them doesn’t make them lazy or terrible at all. Very narrowminded of you to make that claim. I’m an animation fan myself (in case my icon didn’t tip you off), but I don’t need everyone I respect and admire to have the same views or tastes as me. Oh well, whatever. You obviously won’t listen to reason so I’m done here.
I just like to point out, I don’t Mike made a formal opinion on animation, aside from a snarky one liner that just seem like typical Redlettermedia sarcasm
Also consider this there’s a difference with just not liking something and just having a lazy uniformed blanket uneducated opinion on something different, this is partly why Trump winning
Haha love it when Mike is imitating Matt Damon “I’m just doing a movie”.
I thought the exact same thing when I came across the articles blaming the Matt Damon for white-washing.
I was thinking the same thing about the score the whole time I was watching it. Didn’t realize it was even the same composer. Ha!
Everyone makes jokes about Cumberbatch’s name, but “Eggs Benedict Cabbage Patch” is the first one that’s actually made me laugh.
I think they made Tilda Swinton the ancient one to confuse the PC people.
“are we supposed to be angry because it’s whitewashing or cheering because they gave a woman a role originally meant for a man… or because it’s no longer a old Asian teacher stereotype?”
It was partly to make it easier to sell in China. China’s govt doesn’t like Tibet.
It also got away from that wise old Asian stereotype, and Swinton can do whatever she wants.
hey a comic book superhero movie! as breathtakingly exhilarating as exorcist II?
it’s about time someone called out that music guy, Michael Giacchino, every since lost he has the same style. Piano with low hight note equals happy and high low note equals sad, it’s the same in everything he’s evolved in, look out for it in Star Trek the Star Trek. He does all the Abrams stuff bar Star Wars just like Orci, Kurtzman hack frauds, pfft,
I suppose, but I do like the sweeping and bombastic theme of Star Trek the Star Trek, even if it’s his only trick.
Supposedly a lot of the first IF movie is going to focus on him, rather than the side roles Marvel villains generally get; so they’ll at least have time to make him a bastard. Hopefully they do it.
I kind of miss the cameras RLM use to shoot on.
What. an. interesting.
Can’t believe that mike like Jurassic World and Independence Day 2 but not this.
This is a comment for Mike about the set which has nothing to do with Dr. Strange. The white TV in the foreground is very distracting. Mike and Jay are lit so well, you can see the gleam off the gel on each strand of hair. But seriously they look really good. Then it cuts to a two-shot of them talking to each other and there is this glob of blown-out white right between and in front of them. The old TV was just grey (well lit black plastic) and functioned as part of the set, this white one throws off the whole balance.
Why do I care?? I don’t know. But it looks terrible. Actually I liked old episodes where this set was lit a little more naturally with some shadows in the back. Why is it game-show bright in there?
Lit, gleaming, and looking “really good.”
Why not just profess your love outright?
The memories from that hellish battle are still too fresh for Rich Evans. Give him a little more time, please.
I’ve got nothing else :/
Those were actually kaleidoscopes.
I feel you.
somewhere theres already a mashup t shirt design of that. and dr stehpen strange universe
This is more like Inception meets Fullmetal Alchemist meets Batman Begins equals Doctor Strange than this brain-busting Doctor Strange the ads are promising.
I’d rather just rewatch Highlander. The original, not the sequel, and not the TV show.
Okay. I hear Mike use the term ‘lazy’ to describe the composer, the effects people, the writers etc. That and ‘playing it safe’.
It would have been nice if he actually took notes, paid attention to details and actually GOTTEN why they went from the TIBETAN man instead of a anorexic British bint (who obviously could not bother to get a Celtic accent of any kind…but I don’t like Tilda Swinton)
Instead, Mike was too busy drinking his beer on a double shot to ENLARGE the review to engage the ideas of China’s censorship having dramatic effects on Hollywood movie making: that the political censorship, from Ghostbusters (2016) to Dr. Strange is now a huge economic impact on what is and is not allowed in stories. He played it safe. He went with a first draft without any review. Who in the studio is going to tell Mike what to do? He has dozens of dollars in his bankroll!
So this review was very much a missed opportunity and kind of boring. But if he actually did research, he might have drawn the ire of the ChiCom government and his reviews wouldn’t be played in ‘Hong Kong’ (I am never sure when they are joking or are genuinely ignorant. So I don’t know when to laugh)
Perhaps I am getting as jaded about these reviews as Mike is about movies in general.
Eh, It was much better than this review indicates, and probably the best Marvel film outside of Guardians and The Winter Soldier. Other than those two, it’s the only one that had a consistent narrative that drove the story forward and it had the most clever defeat of a villain in any of the films. Compare that to Avengers or, well, any of the other Marvel films, where things just end because of powers and/or bombs for some reason. I will agree that the jokes didn’t really hit for me either and I would have liked a more organic progression from skeptic to believer but that’s not what this film was. It had strong acting, good action scenes, and a much more interesting “boss fight” than any other superhero film maybe ever.
you mean, you want to feel him
Never trust a badger to do a man’s work, and never trust a movie reviewer to handle geopolitics.
No, I have already felt him. Wasn’t that clear?
I wanna see a movie about a Tibetan monk who goes to the West to cure his disease because all his magic failed him.
He learns the strongest magic of all is money and he becomes Iron Man.
Did Mike give a recommendation?
Listen to “London Calling” from ST:ItD he can make some cool songs, considering how bland a lot of composers are these days he’s really not that bad. He deserves way more respect than and Orci, or Kurtzman, for all you know he has to always deal with directors that are married to temp tracks. He at least can sound different, he’s better than the like 40 composers hollywood hires for stuff that are totally interchangable, he’s worse than like the top 5 composers though, sure.
What’s wrong with Hong Kong?
You know, I’ve heard the repetition of soundtracks a couple of times now.. Ennio Morricone’s score for the Hateful 8 reused one of his themes (note for note) from John Carpenter’s the Thing (I think it was called beastiality on the thing soundtrack).. and won an Oscar for it!!
I noticed the music as well, although I didn’t realize it was done by the same composer. Now it all makes sense.
I was gonna make a clever comment about asian steretypes and Doctor Strange folding cities like Origami´s. But I can´t bring myself to care enough about this movie.
Mecha-Trump vs Wormtongue Lizard Queen
Drain the reptilloid swamp
Tony Zhou’s latest “Every Frame a Painting” video is a pretty interesting analysis of why so many contemporary action movies, and in particular recent Marvel movies have such generic, similar, and unmemorable scores.
I love hearing Mike upset about political correctness and how bland Hollywood is.
Okay I really feel like I have to say something. You guys need absolutely NEED to stop reading race-baiting articles. That is not real news! It is literally DESIGNED to make people click on it so they can collect their shitty ad money. The writer of that article doesn’t give a fuck if Doctor Strange is racist or if Benedrine Custerpud is a Reptilian alien from Zeta Reticuli who feasts on babies. The only time they would care about that is if it generated 1% more page-views. Please, stop reading these articles. They are invalid. They bring down the quality of your reviews by even mentioning them. It takes away credibility by referencing non-credible sources.
I thought Tilda Swinton was good in this, but found the fact that the character was Celtic weird. Things can be two things sometimes. People forget that, but it’s true.
My major criticism of this movie is that they should have let Cumberbatch just do his own accent. Is an English doctor working in New York really that crazy and weird that the audience wouldn’t have been unable to suspend their disbelief? Is it super important to the character that he’s from Genericville USA? Maybe being an upper class private school educated British guy would have given more justification for his smug, arrogant asshole yuppie persona and made it easier for people to like him.
Cumbuckets managed to give a good performance in spite of the handicap, but he’s not a strong voice actor and I imagine he would have been better without the additional burden. I wonder if it was as distracting for American audiences as it was for me.
“Moulds that kill tiny attackers inside your body, pig gland extracts against sweet piss…Do you people have any sense of reality? Also, you’ve ruined the Mandarin!”
Yeah, Mike lost me in this review
The ending dialogue in Dr. Strange felt very tv movie. Up to that moment, dialogue felt clever and natural, near the end it felt like, “What do we do NOW Batman!?”
“It’s not a bad film”
“I was just bored by all the action”
A boring action film still gets a positive review. That’s the power of Marvels overwhelming blandness. Even when its bad you still give it a pass. Its like a white flavourless paste. Theres nothing good about it but it doesn’t make you vomit so C+, 7/10, 600 million dollar box office.
I was thinking House MD + Inception + Harry Potter + Portal
Did the manner of Strange’s car crash seem a little on the nose? Hey look! He was texting while driving…. NOW look at him! Except that backfires because he saves the whole universe later.
The Great Wall = World War Z with lizards?
There’s a “I’ve come to bargain” twitter account. The only tweets are…. well, you can do the math.
So much this. Don’t settle for film as a bland, generic commodity, people. Remember how Guardians of the Galaxy or the first half of Captain America were original and fun? Marvel has it in them to make genuinely interesting movies, don’t accept the ones that aren’t.
People look at me like I have 3 heads when I tell them how much I dislike Ant-Man. Sure, some of the visuals were fun, but Jesus, that script. It was Plot Points: the Movie. None of the characters seemed like human beings, and almost every single event or development was purely there because it was The Type of Thing that Happens in These Movies. I couldn’t even finish it.
Holy crap! He reverses time at the end to restore everything? I’ve never seen that in a Super Hero movie before.
I liked (loved?) Doctor Strange. Not to say it’s a GREAT FILM but I was totally entertained. I almost always agree with Mike so I’m shocked – shocked! – by his reaction. I find myself wondering if he’s okay. Mike, do you need a hug?
He said it was the worst thing he’s ever seen
I’m sure its continued use is another patented RLM FU to the audience
Wasn’t that supposed to be the ending of Superman 2 (Richard Donner version)?
I was so bored with this movie I wanted to walk out, but missus liked it for some reason … Strange … She didn’t like Stranger Things though
You missed the fight on the train scene? Only worthwhile thing in entire movie
That awkward 5 seconds where Jay laughed at Dr. Queer….
I laugh too though whenever they write eachother’s lines and stick an offensive joke at the end to make eachother sound like assholes. I’m guessing Mike wrote that, and that was Jay’s first time reading it.
Or IS the ending of Superman I.
Doctor Mordrid is 100x better than Dr. Strange. Jack Kirby even did early production art for it.
He’s lying. I was watching it with him. He definitely groaned.
Mike just has superhero fatigue, which is totally understandable. The problem is not a lack of good movies; the problem is a complete lack of great movies.
Good work guys. Drain the swamp.
I think Half in the Bag could increase its audience by regularly adding food reviews to the show. “Welcome to the show, everybody. Today we’re going to talk about Dr Strange and Arby’s Spicy Chicken Fajita Flatbread Sandwich. Jay, what can you tell the audience about Dr Strange and Arby’s Spicy Chicken Fajita Flatbread Sandwich?”
I would enjoy that. But maybe that’s just me.
Trump won the election, the criminal didn’t become President
What geopolitics? It is influences on the movie industry.
I’ll pretend that ‘cultural appropriation’ isn’t a retarded concept just as soon as all non-white people stop appropriating the white medium of film.
Isn’t Trump accused of sexual abuse?
I call it Scarlett Ohara syndrome, this constant need for white people, particularly women, to lecture other white people about how offensive they are to other cultures. Its the 21st century, if other cultures are offended by something, they are perfectly capable of expressing it themselves.
There’s an inherent racism to the idea that we have to protect these simple people from the big powerful white man. That other races and cultures are so weak and ineffective that we have to protect them like children.
Not to mention that its just another way for white people to usurp the voice of other cultures, its a half step up from Amos and Andy. White people aren’t the ones being offended, why do they get to steal other peoples moral outrage?
And incidentally I acknowledge the irony of lecturing people on the racism of lecturing people on racism. My defiance is that I’m not trying to protect the other culture, I’m just telling white people they look like idiots.
RLM Canada welcomes you with open arms. We have basically a watered down version of everything you have, but our doctors wont wheel you into the parking lot when your credit card expires.
You’re listening to the music.
I think the last Dragon Ball Z movie ended that way…
What is it with lefty faggots & black rimmed glasses?
Cardboard cutouts and your tears are delicious.
Just Salad. Only Salad.
Neither will that happen in America, where people’s medical expenses are largely paid by insurance, private or public, and hospital emergency rooms are often filled with immigrants.
It’s going to be Conan O’Brien in the sequel.
That IS the obvious choice 🙂 Not many know about 2nd one alternate ending, so you spoiled my perfect useless trivia joke 🙁
hey Jay tell Rich they’re making 3 moar spiderman movies. please film his response
Why would they be filled with illegal immigrants? Are illegal immigrants more prone to extreme sports and reckless snowmobiling than legal immigrants?
they’re obviously prone to all sorts of illegal activities!!
And chunky’s chicken
Or his wig.
There, gender problem solved.
Didn’t learn from Youtube? They should’ve used cats!
“Cats is where it’s at”.
Hey, cut this guy some slack. He probably has some nasty space hemroids and back problems from sitting on that uncomfortable chair for centuries.
I checked during the credits, the guy who played Wong’s real name is also Wong. I mean, they had to know, right? Did they care?
Darkseid was way better because Darkseid’s voice actor was always amazingly good.
And she’s bald! That’s like a positive body image thing, right? Or are they implying women have to shave their heads to look more like men to be taken seriously? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
This one didn’t have dinosaurs or splosions
But censoring for the Chinese IS playing it safe now, so he was right all along.
Magic Johnson cured his AIDS with money, not magic
He may have saved the universe, but his hands are still fucked up. Don’t text and drive, kids!
What about Plinkett Eats videos!?
I thought Doctor Mordred was a lot more fun than Doctor Strange. It certainly delivered a better version of the material
I’m going to look this up but you’re saying that Superman II was intended to end with exactly the same gimmick as the original? Seems a tad uncreative for the cut of the movie everyone praises.
And wasn’t his first name Benedict?
Look for a Oscar nomination in sound design. It was really good.
I wonder if they pulled a Suicide Squad and added extra humor after the fact. I get the sense that when they do these movies, they’ll shoot a bunch of versions of the scenes and do a little witty banter improve in some of them. Then the editor will choose which version of the dialogue works best.
In suicide squad it was like they used several versions of the funny banter and crammed them all together in one scene to give you the sense its a lighter hearted movie.
It kinda felt like they were trying to do that in this one too. The humor seemed inappropriate, and got in the way of some of the scenes. Maybe they wanted to make this darker than some of the other Marvel movies, to compensate for how fantastic and unreal it was, but then chickened out after the Batman v Superman backlash.
And couldn’t they get an Asian actress to play the old one, or whatever. I guess the comic book character was Caucasian, but I just found it so distracting. I’m not arguing PC, it just looked stupid.
The TV in the foreground distracted me, too.
More capeshit reviews? I thought we were past this.
Just see a real movie, guys, or at least Train to Busan. Maybe even try a drama like Billy Lynn’s…whatever. Shake it up, guys!
Hah! Within the first 5 minutes or less I’d already commented “oh. so he’s House.” Also, jump to the credits and Skywalker Sound/ Lucas film are listed right before the song credits.
I saw that too!! Maybe that was part of the joke? Also am I crazy or did you notice that Lucas film is credited as well?
Because ILM did work on the movie, as they do on many movies. ILM is still a Lucasfilm company.
Mike’s thoughts on this movie remind me of the classic critical conundrum: if you wouldn’t drive yourself to the movie theater to watch a film in the first place, your opinion on it is borderline meaningless.
Although Mike’s bored description of the movie makes me kind of want to check it out (I don’t know why, someone’s computer flipping cities around sounds like something I could watch for a bit), I’m sure as usual I’ll probably regret the decision and be asking myself “why didn’t I listen?”. I’ll probably wait for the DVD though.
Whats with Mike and the sissy ass love stories lately? Wants a love story in Star Wars, and in a comic book movie? Who has been slippin him the estrogen pills?
You should checkout The A.V. Club then.
Awesome. Sign me up. I’m coming over.
I’m white and I couldn’t care less about other people.
And it’s not for lack of effort either! I tried but I just cant.
They say I’m the devil and I just… can’t care less! What’s wrong with me?
Stop it. Too funny.
Highlander is too elitist. There can be only one? What’s up with that!
Everybody swears and there’s a bad guy you hate? Oh, you mean Deadpool.
But that’s what makes America so great, it’s our Christian healthcare. As Jesus said to the woman possessed by evil spirits, “I would cure you, but you don’t have enough in your co-pay, so FUCK OFF!!!” Then he kicks her down a flight of stairs.
AV Club is more clickbait than man now.
You’re wrong. Jack wrote all those jokes.
Mike and Jay 2020!
**shrugs shoulders, bites cyanide pill**
Stop copying headlines from The Atlantic!
It’s how Bank of America and Wells Fargo cured the global economy of prosperity and stability.
Doctor Strange 2: Carl Spackler and the Dalai Lama.
And it will be reported on as News at The AV Club.
Something you learned while watching Pre-Rec?
I finally saw Dr. Strange, so I just got around to watching this. My main question is: Mike has never heard of Zhang Yimou? Raise the Red Lantern? All the other movies he made with Gong Li? WTF?
Mike’s reference to Hugh Laurie was spot on. I thought that Benedict Cumberbatch’s American accent sounded just like Dr. House.
I just saw this movie for the first time, and Mike’s feelings pretty much directly mirror my own. I see where Jay was coming from with the trippy and ambitious aspect of the special effects, but like Mike said, it all seemed pretty sterile to me. For the trippy aspect of the movie to really shine, they would’ve had to have done something a little more artistic, or made the story overall more surreal — like the premiere of Legion.
As it is, the movie is just super bland.
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