Half in the Bag: Blade Runner 2049

October 7, 2017289 Comments

Mike and Jay discuss Blade Runner 2049, the sequel to the box office bomb Blade Runner! But I’m sure it’ll be a hit THIS TIME, right?!

Filed in: Half in the Bag

  • Salvador Elias

    heyy, first…

  • Robert Pratt

    Good stuff… popping some corn right now

  • Chomiq

    Jay you need to watch Polytechnique from DV

  • BLADE RUNNER 2049 is a masterpiece.

  • Gato Incógnito

    It was fantastic. A visual feast, a thought-provoking genre piece, subtext up the wazoo… I was thoroughly impressed. Naturally, too smart a film for general audiences, so it’s taking a hit at the box office, but fuck ’em, who wants to keep company with trash like Avatar, Batman v Superman & Transformers 37?

  • Micha

    Surprised its a likable movie, its running in my hometown in english tonight, thought about going, would have been forced to go 3d, all the other showings are going to be german only. They want to charge me 16€ for a single movie. I´ll pass and wait for the bluray, thank you.

  • Casey D. Mann

    I am sure the movie will look great. But will it BE great? Hm… only time will tel— OMG RLM reviewed it! Now I won’t have to go and SEE it!

  • Jakky

    Redletter leading the charge against Jewish controlled Hollywood and making Movies great again!

  • Joe Syxpac

    Mike, go back and rewatch your Pacific Rim review.

    You loved it.

  • Cirric Fylenco

    I love the editing on RLM. “Hey Jay, what about your gay weddi”. Fuck it, enough said, no need to dwell on it, right? Like William Shakesman said, “brevity is the soul of wit.”

  • Cirric Fylenco

    Break out the pizza rolls.

  • Blankpaint

    I believe the film had a minor problem. The transition from the dark knight of the soul to his rising up to fight back was a bit clunky.

    I would have liked to have seen the antagonist die in a different way. The car crashes and she is hurt and Jo has to watch her die as she fights to stay alive.

    I feel the script had a problem with the female antagonist and Jo. He was always a pawn, and she the queen. I believe that she shouldn’t have been killed by such a violent act, much more of a calculated move or by sheer accident as I mentioned above.

    I felt they had to rush near the end.

  • defmore89

    finally you fucking hack frauds

  • defmore89

    finally you fucking hack frauds

  • Brian Levine

    Yeah, but My Little Pony has TWO Unicorns!

  • Brian Levine

    Yeah, but My Little Pony has TWO Unicorns!

  • Brian Levine

    Yeah, but My Little Pony has TWO Unicorns!

  • Joshua Burns

    Agree that the world looked and felt awesome. Harry Ford must get sick of having to play dad-figure, though this was indeed his best performance in a looong time. That wrestler was solid. Gosling’s gonna have a whole lot more ‘refusing cereal’ memes comin’.

  • Joshua Norton

    It’s pronounced Danny Bonnadeuce.

  • Kawaii as Fuck

    Within cells: interlinked.
    Within cells: interlinked.
    Within cells: interlinked.
    Within cells: interlinked.

    I loved it, I wouldn’t say it’s better than the original movie although in some ways it is, as a story and character driven movie it’s better, but it doesn’t quite reach the highs atmosphere wise as the original did, though it comes very, very close.

    I’d say it’s overall equal to the original movie, which is in of itself amazing since the original is one of my all time favorite movies, I definitely can’t wait to watch it many, many more times in the years to come.

  • Bubs

    Can I just say that Dark City is possibly my favorite sci-fi film of all time? Please do a Re:View of it. Pretty fucking please.

  • Andrew Carter

    It’s Da’Knee’s Bees

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Verbosity is the soul of shit.

  • DeL Keyes

    I appreciate that Jay found this to be better than the original, just on the basis that the film centralized on a replicate which wasn’t (maybe?) the case in the original.

  • Oh neato.

  • Adez

    My Little Pony the movie was a big bloated dissapointment, focusing on action scenes than diplomacy, totally ruined the continuity, and didn’t use John DeLancie

    Just like Star Trek 10

  • Adez

    Alicorns don’t count you casual thrash fan :p

  • Adez

    I just hope Ryan is not as rapey as Harrison was in the first movie

  • Gallen Dugall

    My Little Pony The Movie > Blade Runner 2049

  • RLMkeepitup

    this movie was boring beyond all comprehension. ryan gosling staring at things

  • Gallen Dugall

    To be fair it takes place in continuity between the current season and the next. That’s why I’m waiting to see it until this season is over… well that and I don’t want to be dragged out of the theater by police for being an unaccompanied middle aged white man in a movie for little girls.

  • Eric Watson

    I tried really hard to like the first Blade Runner. I loved dark future movies like the Mad Max series. I like Philip K Dick’s books. I like cop movies. I like Harrison Ford and Ridley Scott. All the stuff for a movie I should love were there, but it bored the shit out of me anyway. The new movie is what I wanted the original to be. One of the few sequels that really is better than the original, especally with 30 years between movies.

  • This is gonna be a rental for me.
    I didn’t like the original and this one’s run time is too long for me to commit to.

  • Gallen Dugall

    Anyone else notice that they’re doing the JJ Abrams Trek thing in these videos now? They’ve got the black thermal undershirt with the color coded over shirt.

  • Gallen Dugall

    Anyone else notice that they’re doing the JJ Abrams Trek thing in these videos now? They’ve got the black thermal undershirt with the color coded over shirt.

  • Gallen Dugall

    Anyone else notice that they’re doing the JJ Abrams Trek thing in these videos now? They’ve got the black thermal undershirt with the color coded over shirt.

  • Nice review, will probably give 2049 a look!

    Minor quibble: I thought the whole point of Ford’s Deckard being a grouchy, emotionless sad-sack in the original was to show him in comparison with Hauer’s Batty, who is full of verve and has probably packed more living into his short lifespan than Deckard ever did. When Batty makes the active choice to save Deckard, it wakes him up as to what real living is all about. You can see the shock and realisation on Ford’s face. It’s a decent bit of acting.

    This all ties into PKD’s idea of some humans moving through life as emotionless robots – it’s tied together with the line “It’s too bad _ won’t live. But then again, who does?”

  • The song that played was from Peter and the Wolf.

  • Death Ray

    D’ohhhhhh…. is there a time code where the spoilers end, or is it spoiled throughout after the spoiler alert?

  • TheVerySpecialK

    DARK CITY RE:VIEW! DO IT!

  • Scumfall

    just got back …. only 10 people in the cinema so no distractions , i liked it , didnt seem that long and i wanted more when it ended , thats a good sign …… its boooooring and great because of it , makes a change from being hit over the head and shouted at . the story works , the acting fits the style, the soundtrack is fucking great . its full of holes but so are most films . ….. i liked it .

  • ikdks

    I like how they double down on the reality of the first film, regardless of how it related to the real world, like the Atari logo or the soviet friendly ad. Or how all the flying cars look like Datsun 280zx’s.

    I also like how it snows in LA. It’s climate change, but doesn’t follow the standard climate change orthodoxy. It kind of splits the baby, acknowledging the reality of climate change but depoliticizing it, by making it different.

    I think that relates to the soviet friendly add, too. Like Russia today is a cold drab place, generally, but in the future climate change will turn it into the happiest place on earth.

    And i don’t think it matters if Deckard is a replicate or not, the point is the difference between being manufactured, and being born. Manufactured people have owners, born people have parents.

    I think the female cops interpretation was supposed to be the movies interpretation, that the very fact that a replicate could be born, would undermine societies understanding of itself.

  • Derbrererd

    Its just one minor spoiler

  • EJ

    People criticize Harrison Ford’s performance as Deckard, but yeah, it is, uh, stylistically designed to be that way. I can see audiences at the time being confused that they weren’t seeing the lively, charismatic Harrison Ford from Star Wars and Raiders, but it should be obvious to modern audiences that that’s just what Deckard’s character is.

  • EJ

    No dude, this is 2017. If you reveal anything that happens beyond the first 30 seconds of the movie, people complain about spoilers.

  • Dolfanar

    I can’t believe people are missing the OBVIOUS parallels to 2013s “Her” by Spike Jonze. The first half of the movie is basically a plot point for plot point repeat of Her, even including JOI engaging a surrogate for Sex with her man. Except Villeneuve is doing a COMPLETE subversion of Her with the scene at the end where K begins to question whether JOI really was in love or was just playing out her programming. The name JOI is also funny. People are talking about the two nexus characters being JOI and Love… except it’s NOT “Joy”… it’s JOI… JOI is a porn acronym for “Jerk Off Instruction”… JOI is a metaphor for *masturbation’ people! I can’t be the only one seeing that the movie is exploring the difference between “Love” and Masturbatory fantasies… which JOI and Her are in the film-maker’s opinion.

    As to the movie… I love Denis Villeneuve, and I second the recommendation that Jay should check out “Polytechnique”… his very early and controversial first film. Having said that… it’s WAY too long. The visuals where more impressive in ’82 due to the contrast with other sfx of the period, but doubling down on sfx in 2017? Unacceptable. As much as the JOI vs HER stuff intrigues me, it could easily have been abbreviated, and 30-45 minutes could have been cut from the first two hours… which would have brought the running time down closer to the original. I also wouldn’t have telegraphed the story twists as much. You also needed at least one more charismatic actor or performance… a lot of the first movie is made bearable due to some interesting performance by Rutger Hauer and weird stuff with JS Sebastian.

    The last 40 minutes, once the story gets going is really interesting. It’s clear there is TONS of talent involved… it just doesn’t quite come together as a film however.. much like the original I guess.

  • Thanatos

    “The 1993 Milwaukee Cryptosporidiosis outbreak was a significant distribution of the Cryptosporidium protozoan in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and the largest waterborne disease outbreak in documented United States history”

    Now I know!!!

  • Thanatos

    Mike just admitted he doesn’t watch their own content – he’s never seen that review before!

  • Thanatos

    You just gotta lurk in the back row with a hoodie on.

  • RLMkeepitup

    there should be a milwaukee fact in every video

  • EJ

    Confirmed that Mike just reads whatever Rich has written and hasn’t even seen any of these movies.

  • EJ

    Confirmed that Mike just reads whatever Rich has written and hasn’t even seen any of these movies.

  • Yeah for the longest time I thought this was gonna be directed by Ridley Scott so I wasn’t excited at all. Sounds pretty good though.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    I can’t wait for the Soldier 2049 reboot/sequel/prequel.

  • Gallen Dugall

    Not in this town. I have been detained by the police for walking unaccompanied in the park in the middle of the day. Apparently I’m scary looking.
    Plus I don’t really care. I’m sure I’ll get some laughs out of it whenever it hits TV.

  • ima420r

    Harrison Ford actually acts in this movie? I might just go see it.

  • DRP103

    Oh man, the theater I saw 2049 in had a blown subwoofer and I couldn’t hear the dialog worth shlt, so I was kinda bummed out afterward. But other than that, K’s girlfriend is hot. Poor Las Vegas. It’s been taking a beating lately.

  • DRP103

    Oh man, the theater I saw 2049 in had a blown subwoofer and I couldn’t hear the dialog worth shlt, so I was kinda bummed out afterward. But other than that, K’s girlfriend is hot. Poor Las Vegas. It’s been taking a beating lately.

    There are three film shorts that fill out the back story. The Great Blackout was explained in one of them. All three are on YouTube.

  • ikdks

    I thought that too, about Her.

    But i don’t think the film itself ever considered Joi “real”. I think she was more a symbol of his alienation, and his awakening identity. She was like an intermediary device between his technology and his humanity, but i don’t think she ever really transcended her program.

    Joi reminded me of that south park episode, Freemium isn’t free, the way her program kept pinging his phone, pestering him back into the game. She told him he was special and unique because that’s what she was programed to do, say what he wanted to hear.

    And i think he realised that when he was talking to the giant naked lady hologram.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Does that mean Sean Young stabs Harrison Ford with a light saber?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Her? Egg? I mean Anne?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Replicant or Repli-Kate?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Darth Vader is Luke’s father?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The movie lacked … drive?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    But it lacks the symbolic gravitas of Joe vs the Volcano, Act 3.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    What about candy corns?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Every shot is so dense.

  • Jonny Edworthy

    Blade Runner 2049 is slow, confusing, and incredibly pretentious.

    So at the very least they absolutely recaptured the tone of the original film.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    And don’t forget the tie-in novels, comic books, and video games.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    And The Postman 2049 reboot/sequel/prequel.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    And who can forget hometown hero and anti-GMO crusader Jeffrey Dahmer.

  • Katy Hennessy

    The little melody that K hears is the first few notes from Peter and the Wolf.

  • Scheezler

    How could holograms dig in a mine?

  • Eric Watson

    On Star Trek they had physical substance to them mainly with force fields. That is how the hologram doctor could hold medical gear.

  • Aaron James

    I can’t say for certain, because I’ve seen the short films, but I feel like none of them are essential to viewing this movie. The great blackout is explained well enough, I thought – all that’s necessary to know for the plot is that data beyond a certain point is corrupted.

    In fact, it possibly works better as a nebulous concept, sort of like how “the clone wars” sounded super cool, until George Lucas actually showed them to us.

  • Hymen Cholo

    He did, although I think his best performance of late was in Age of Adeline. Not a great movie, watched it because I was bored and it was on cable, but he really surprised.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Rimmer, despite being a hologram, still thinks Lister is a smeg.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Dave Bautista reminds me of Burt Young. He could crush your skull like a ripe peach, but he’s somehow lovable and approachable.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Dark City also had Peak Jennifer Connelly. Post-Rocketeer but pre-Requiem for a Dream.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Dark City also had Peak Jennifer Connelly. Post-Rocketeer but pre-Requiem for a Dream.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Mike probably doesn’t want to sit through his Pacific Rim job. I could have worded that better.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Jamiroquai?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    POP-POP!
    **sees self out**

  • RLMkeepitup

    drive at least engaged me, unlike dis movie

  • Chowderbatter

    Blade Runner 2049 II: So, K, When’s Your Gay Wedd…

  • Chowderbatter

    Blade Runner 2049 II: So, K, When’s Your Gay Wedd…

  • Chowderbatter

    As a long time sci-fi (and Trek) fan, the ratio of this genre is 10% sci and 90% fi, and not the other way around.

    So, so, so much of it makes no damn sense at all. It’s a fun genre, but not nearly as intellectual as it likes to think.

  • Joe Syxpac

    He also doesn’t read the comments so I’m not expecting an answer anyway.

  • Chowderbatter

    For example, if replicants are a problem because they blend in, why not just give them all three eyes? Or make them neon purple? It’s not a hard problem to solve. If a “pleasure bot” needs to look like a human, okay. But some generic bot who just lugs boxes or is a soldier? Why do they need to look anything like a human?

    And the mobile hologram dilemma is just stupid. They can make a Genesis device that creates a world in seven minutes or build a ship that goes across the galaxy at warp nine, but they can’t make a device that projects light outside of a room?

  • Chowderbatter

    For those who care, and in light of recent events in Hollywood regarding harassment, there’s much more to the Sean Young story than that she was “difficult.” Sounds like she wasn’t interested in blowing her way to the top.

    theguardian DOTCOM –> /film/2015/mar/26/blade-runner-sean-young-interview

  • Movie Wan Kenovie

    What’s with all that “K” business? Did Men in Black join the Blade Runner corps???

  • Duckler

    Harrison Ford plus hot-boxing minus comical K-19 performance plus like 200 million in the bank equals Denis Villeneuve doing his best?

  • Duckler

    Cryptosporidium is what brought down Eddie Vedder.

  • Duckler

    Kenobi throws a couple of different droids under the hover-bus.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    I’m weird, but I always liked the ‘Enhance’ scene in BR. Once you realize he’s moving the screen around objects in the photo and the photos in BR are all 3-D, it’s a nice reveal. A little neat bit of that world-building/design thing I enjoy in science-fiction films.

    I think one of the 47 separate Director Cuts editions also has a pic of Rachel where the shadows are moving, revealing it’s a moving image, ala Harry Potter. But that never really seemed as neat as a cop moving around a photo in three dimensions so he could see behind something.

    The ‘Enhance’ sequence is a bit too long, but it’s got nothing on the 18 minute “Look at the new Enterprise!” fly-by scene from the first act of Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    They’re made of the same hard-light tech all the more advanced races in the Halo video games use for everything.

    The better question is why do they bother making holograms at all and not real robots that can go anywhere and don’t disintegrate if the power goes out? If you can make a sentient hologram, there’s no reason you can’t just build a couple million Data-clones to run all your ships and mines and everything else no one in the Federation wants to do.

  • noel

    I can’t say for certain, because I’ve seen the short films, but I feel like none of them are essential to viewing this movie. The great blackout is explained well enough, I thought – all that’s necessary to know for the plot is that data beyond a certain point is corrupted.In fact, it possibly works better as a nebulous concept, sort of like how “the clone wars” sounded super cool, until George Lucas actually showed them to us.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Depends, is she dressed as Catwoman?

  • I didn’t even know there was a Pacific Rim 2. The clips from the trailer made it look more like a Transformers movie though.

  • Yeah why would they send a bunch of highly intelligent holograms down into a mine when they could just build digging robots with no sentience? I was thinking about this like – okay I get why Data gets a trial for his rights – okay I kiiiind of get why a hologram does – but then I don’t understand why they would make slave labor out of anything that could make a case for its rights. Just build something really dumb and really strong with a mining pick for an arm. This is of course not even brushing on the issue of “if you can give an AI rights, can the ship’s computer refuse a refit?” which was brought up in the Data episode.

  • Bleurgh

    Well I just saw the movie and whilst I thought it was great I did have some minor criticisms.

    Primary being that I wasn’t sure what Wallaces motivations were. Did he genuinely believe that replicants were the future of humanity and want to discover the secret to replicant reproduction in order to pass it on to the replicants, or was that just a line of BS he was spinning for Rachel 2.0 and the real reason he wanted to find Deckards child was so that he could kill it and destroy the secret to replicant reproduction so that the replicants wouldn’t slip out from under his control?

    Also, did Rachel 2.0 genuinely believe Wallaces line about wanted to give the replicants the ability to reproduce or was she a race traitor or loyal to a fault? I feel like having some dialogue between Deckard and Rachel 2.0 on the shuttle at the end that illuminated this would have really helped the film as well as made us feel more sympathy for Rachel 2.0 when she dies. Just have Deckard question whether she actually believes Wallace will give reproduction to the replicants, have him cynically dismiss the idea and preferably have her explain why she believes Wallace will. That would have made her into much less of a useless killbot villain character too. In that by dying she would have been doing so in order to try and free her people.

    I’m assuming the ending means that Deckards daughter is already working on reconstructing Joes memories to give them to the next generation of replicants so that his death wasn’t for nothing, but will instead be the motivation for a replicant rebellion. Did anyone else get that? Could have been clearer, but I like this interpretation as it carries on the themes of death not being useless as long as you can pass on memories, established in the first film.

  • Bleurgh

    I assumed it was a global blackout that resulted in everything stored on the internet being wiped. That makes sense and has happened on smaller scales already.

  • Bleurgh

    Her was shit though. This movie was actually good.

  • Bleurgh

    It did make the one or two moments where he freaks out really effective though. Also, it’s a Bladerunner movie. If you came for action and scenery chewing you came to the wrong franchise.

  • Bleurgh

    It did make the one or two moments where he freaks out really effective though. Also, it’s a Bladerunner movie. If you came for action and scenery chewing you came to the wrong franchise.

  • EJ

    The Transformers movies made more money than Pacific Rim did, so that’s probably what they want you to think.

    It’s got about 6 writers and it’s directed by some TV guy. I’m sure it’s gonna be great.

  • Bleurgh

    Saw it in 3d and it added nothing to the movie. Probably would have preferred it in 2D TBH.

  • EJ

    I feel like I’m one of the only people who thinks Gosling is an excellent actor. I’ll take his laid back, subtle acting over Leo DiCaprio’s “yelling=emotion” style any day.

  • Brian Levine

    Biggest shock of all is that Jay actually reads the comments.

  • Brian Levine

    “Less plot. More robot fights. Can’t miss.”

  • LameSame

    Yes.

  • DRP103

    The star that burns twice as bright, burns twice as lon..er, half the ti….don’t get fooled again!

  • Florian

    How could holograms dig in a mine?

  • Scumfall

    same tech as the holosuite , it creates images from matter as well as light .you can have a fight in a holo suit and get killed if the protocols are off, put a holo emitter in the mine and hey presto – instant workers

  • Moist

    I’ll be very disappointed if the number of executive desk toys incidentally set in motion by giant robo/kaiju fights doesn’t increase as well.

  • Rich Raimond

    How can you review this film and not spend 10 minutes on all things Jared Leto?

  • Movie Wan Kenovie

    Anyone for pony porn?

  • Movie Wan Kenovie

    Not those from Disqus he doesn’t.

  • Movie Wan Kenovie

    Can you actually get run over by a hover-bus?

  • Betty Black

    Gayde Runner 2069 when replicants are all male and do each other

  • EJ

    I kinda like how everything and everyone in the original PR sounded like it was named by someone whose native language was not English. “Gypsy Danger,” “Stacker Pentecost”… It reinforced the idea that the whole thing was basically a live action version of 1980s anime.

  • EJ

    One thing I’d like to see is a franchise where future politics and economy are cyclical. I’m thinking of something like The Forever War. If you haven’t read it, it’s about a soldier fighting in an interstellar war, and because of time dilation, every time he comes back to Earth, several decades have passed since he was last there. Sometimes things have gotten really dire, and sometimes things are looking pretty good.

    I guess Star Trek has a bit of that, in that the future seemingly got a lot worse before it got better.

  • EJ

    Are you a RepliCAN or a RepliCAN’T?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Maybe they need sponsorship from a condom company?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “George W. Bush hates Replicants.” — Kanye Batty

  • Pop Culture Reference

    — Jack Ruby

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I like the “Enhance” sequence, but mainly because I like drinking bottom shelf hooch and talking to a TV screen.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I want to see Will Smith’s funky fresh take on Bladerunner 2049.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    If they were beatniks.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    “Things are going to get worse before they get better.” — Timely refrain I’ve been hearing since birth.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Is you is or is you ain’t?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Only God forgives.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Nymphomaniac, Parts I and II > The Passion of the Christ

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Joey Buttafuoco?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    If Harrison Ford’s movie career was a cocktail, he’d be a Franchise Corpse Reviver.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Seeing it in 3D and it still lacked dimension?

  • Thanatos

    Instead of walking around in the park, you should drive around in an unmarked white van.

  • Thanatos

    The better question is why did they need individual holograms rather than a single computer directing all the light and force fields to dig.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    *The Remains of the Day 2049
    *Waiting for Guffman 2049
    *Titanic 2049
    *The Amazing Bulk 2049

  • RLMkeepitup

    see the movie quick, there’s a 13 m asteroid passing within 3 earth radii on.. Thursday

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Luckily the President is on the case! At least after he finishes his golf game.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Unlike that Ben Kowalski guy they had on the Re:View episode about the Blind Replicant Swordsman Taxi Driver.

  • RLMkeepitup

    it could be worse, friday is the 13th

  • Pop Culture Reference

    And who can forget the character “Puts Things On Top of Other Things Lent”?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Star Trek: Attack of the Hologram Clones?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Her seemed like a movie reverse engineered to appeal to white collar heterosexual graphic designers.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Most films have holes in them. That’s where the sprockets go in the film projector. Hey-o!
    **slide whistle**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Technically yes, but fatally no.

  • moron

    Oh nooooooo the new Star Wars trailer looks so daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark. What the fuck is that gerbil with Chewy? Is that what Han Solo really looked like? Is Han a Trill, is his worm inside a fucking gerbil? What the fuck is haaaapening? Why was Rae having a seizure? Black guy is walking again…that’s good I guess. Is it a flashback? Is Snoak the Emperor? That was cool when those rocks floated I guess. It made me feel like I was watching Game of Thrones or something like it made me kind of sick with how daaaaaaaark it all was. Fuck this this ain’t my “I don’t care what you smell, get in there you big furry ape” Star Wars. I don’t know. Plinkett out?

  • Officer Meow Meow Fuzzyface

    Villenueve has actually made nine films, all of them ranging from pretty good to spectacular.

  • BCFC25

    So i take it you hackfucks are gonna do a analysis of the new Star Wars trailer?

    Please do a somewhat serious look and not just have Rich Evans wank off a droid for 20mins!!

  • Bleurgh

    And neck bearded MRA’s. The key theme of the movie seemed to be that women are all cheating lying whores who will break your heart even when they are artificial and have nond of the annoying qualities that actual human-beings have.

  • Bruce

    What do you want them to talk about? Blatant misdirection with 2 different scenes creating a false narrative and manufactured speculation, when there is no way Rey will ever go bad? How the entire SW saga is now broken because Ren and Rey are now stronger than Anakin or Luke? How Disney ruined the backstory of Star Wars to stick Luke in a dumb Yoda role, with the only difference being that an annoying, perfect protagonist that no one can relate to except a narcissist, has to teach her teacher a few things? This is really bad fan fiction and plagiarism of better films. All the changes are for the worse. I think the only way anyone can be a fan of these Disney films or think they are passable is if they are 1) Big into cinematography. Rogue One looks nice so I can see it used as an excuse there. Not for TFA though. 2) Don’t care about the original trilogy. Example hardcore Star Trek fans who don’t like Star Wars. 3) Don’t care about characters and their arcs, any logic in a story or the main story arc and just want to blow their load looking at things they know from Star Wars. Most “fans” of TFA fall into 3. They think Star Wars is and always was Transformers. Lucas thought most people were stupid after Empire though and he stopped caring about the story in his movies as much. See Gary Kurtz statements about “Star Wars Myths”. Disney Star Wars movies make Return of the Jedi look “smart” though. Most of the critics who gave TFA a pass or praised it only did so because they think people are morons and that they want movies made for morons. Sadly the people make them right.

  • BCFC25

    Cause when they do serious analysis like they did with the upcoming Han Solo film it can be very insightful and entertaining.

  • Bleurgh

    People dont talk about Denny enough. He’s great.

  • Buk Pravon

    I hope, they do another Nerd Cast. I love those. 😀

  • So you mean a prediction. Anyone seriously who analyzes a trailer is an idiot. Trailers either spoil everything or tell you nothing these days.

  • BCFC25

    I know i just want them to give there honest opinion on the new film with the info they can muster from the trailers and not give us those silly skits like they did with the transformers films. These guys have alot to say and its the reason we are here to hear what they have to say i just want something other than a silly skit and nothing else.

  • Moist

    “2046 2049”

  • Moist

    Probably a Kafka reference. Oh, fuck, did you spoil the movie for me? Has Deckard been a bug the whole time?

  • Gallen Dugall

    I like walking in the park

  • From what I’ve seen of the trailers there is next to no information, and they are not the type to seriously approach dissecting every detail in cryptic trailers, those are the types of people they are making fun of in those Nerd Crew videos. When they did their Han Solo video it had nothing to do with trailers – there are no trailers for that movie yet. They are using their brains and their cynicism to think in the mindset of a hollywood producer, not picking apart a 50 second trailer.

  • From what I’ve seen of the trailers there is next to no information, and they are not the type to seriously approach dissecting every detail in cryptic trailers, those are the types of people they are making fun of in those Nerd Crew videos. When they did their Han Solo video it had nothing to do with trailers – there are no trailers for that movie yet. They are using their brains and their cynicism to think in the mindset of a hollywood producer, not picking apart a 50 second trailer.

  • Bleurgh

    Good sci fi is philosophical not intellectual. Take this movie for example. It’s all about how slavery will always exist, just under a different name and with different parameters. The science is actually nonsense.

  • Bleurgh

    Their love was artificial but still real in the same way he was a replicant but still real. It wasn’t exactly subtle. If emotions / human-beings can be perfectly simulated then they are no different from the real thing. This is the major point of Bladerunner.

  • Bleurgh

    I’m waiting for the within cells / interlinked monologue to inevitably show up on a prog rock album. How much do you want to bet it’ll be sampled on the next tool record?

  • Bleurgh

    Nah it had that. The 3D felt like they just did it out of obligation and there were moments (particularly in the San Diego scrapyard) where it seemed really half-assed.

  • Brian Levine

    Reminds me of the story of Gene Roddenberry’s Star Trek 2 story concept: Enterprise goes back in time to the Kennedy assassination. Turns out it was Spock behind the grassy knoll.

    Seemed like a stupid idea. I always wondered why Spock would shoot Kennedy, until it hit me…Kennedy was a Klingon agent! Lee Harvey Oswald? Romulan spy. Jack Ruby? Tellarite!

    This would’ve been the most epic Star Movie ever made!!!

  • Moist

    I prefer the book version “Does Jazzy Jeff Dream of a Movie Career?”

  • Brian Levine

    The names Eva-01, Eva-02 and Eva-03 were already taken.

  • Gallen Dugall

    I borrow a neighbor’s dog. People don’t get hysterical if you have a dog keeping an eye on you.

  • Brian Levine

    To boldly split infinitives that no man had split before…

  • Brian Levine

    “300 2049”

    Actually, I might like to see that one.

  • Brian Levine

    Is it Lee-to or Leh-to?

  • Brian Levine

    Yup. Just another piece of evil tech in the 24th century that should have been immediately shut down, along with Geordi’s visor.

  • Moist

    You realize you have a finite amount of time to exist, yes? NOBODY can afford to watch that amount of atmospheric slo-mo.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    You fools! What this sequel needed was a rad skateboard riding kid sidekick who wears his baseball cap backwards. He would be blindingly white but speaks only in urban hip hop patois and he only wears branded t-shirts. Don’t you recognize what high art is, you craven philistines?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Didn’t they do that like four or five posts ago?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    So like the way Trump handled classified intelligence when he’s around Russians?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I’m more of a Perkins man.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    How could Friday the 13th be any more scary or chaotic since we’re living in Trump’s America?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    With a soundtrack by The 1979 doing a cover of Iggy Pop’s “1969.”

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Unless you’re really, really high, man.

  • Moist

    [insert dumb patio joke here]

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Doesn’t Deserve His Oscar-to.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    REPLICANT-POOCHIE: Catch you homies on the flip side! Remember to recycle … TO THE EXTREME!

    **freeze frame, Replicant-Poochie disappears from film**

    TITLE CARD: REPLICANT-POOCHIE returned to his original off-world colony.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The last Star Trek movie to involve time traveling and whales didn’t turn out to be horrible. So, yeah, JFK 2: The Wrath of Spock.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I’ve read things you wouldn’t believe. Conspiracies involving pizza parlors and presidents yammering about fake news. I’ve seen t-beams off the shoulder of Orion and read Breitbart discussion threads. All those things will be lost … in time … like tears in the rain. Time to die.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Can Replicants “get jiggy wit’ it”?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Creationists think science is actually nonsense. Good thing their brains have four-year lifespans.

  • Moist

    How could Friday the 13th be any more scary? The meteor might miss us.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I think anti-meteor technology is too heavy for The First Golfer to free throw it to hurricane victims.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Is it me or do these neck-bearded MRA’s sound really, really closeted?

  • Love it.

  • ikdks

    I disagree. I think she was a product, an algorithm. She was a simulation of a loving woman, not a loving woman. The replicant prostitute called her hollow.

    In fact i have a conspiracy theory that in the original script it would eventually be revealed that the robot company was tracking him through her metadata, and that she was essentially a very elaborate bug, but one that can look into your soul.

    But that it didn’t play well for woman 18-35 so they rewrote it where she got stepped on. As it was, her story arc just kind of crashed. It felt truncated.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Can’t we get both?

  • Joe Syxpac

    Or Hillary.

    Six of one private server, half dozen of hookers pissing on a bed.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Eldon Tyrell would have been a better president. Except for getting his getting popped by a rogue replicant. Nobody’s perfect.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    What are your thoughts about the Oxford comma and the word “twerking” in the OED?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Isn’t the mindset of a Hollywood producer focused on cocaine and getting more cocaine?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    As long as “some TV guy” isn’t Chuck Lorre.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Like the ones you see on modded out Elantras?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Humans moving throughout life as emotionless robots? That’s bullshit!

    **goes back to putzing around on his smartphone for the rest of the day**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The omnipresent lens flare and the ersatz Spielbergian camera moves?

  • Money/cocaine, same thing really. Both have value, both can be traded for goods and services.

  • Derbrererd

    This movie had me amazed, like how a fox must feel wandering into the city for the first time. Its strange and noisy and dangerous and you could get stomped on by high heels at any moment. The synth soundtrack was badass. Its a shame this movie isn’t making more money, we need more movies like this. Maybe things will pick up as word of mouth spreads.

  • Bleurgh

    Most of them are my friend, most of them are.

  • Chowderbatter

    I’ve never understood the love for Dark City. It always struck me as schlocky and awkward. Half baked. And frankly not very original. I liked Proyas’ The Crow well enough, though that was flawed. But I thought I, Robot was similarly lazy and malformed.

    I love noir. I love sci-fi. I love Kiefer Sutherland. I love William Hurt. I think Jennifer Connelly is very nice to look at, but about as emotive and interesting as a damp bag of oatmeal left on a bus stop bench. She’s the proto-Scarlet Johansson.

    Dark City had a few mildly interesting turns and ideas, though shoddily fleshed out, and the dull psychic battle at the end was just trite. The Matrix came along and finished the job right. The same can be said of Batman Begins perfecting The Crow. Proyas seems competent, just not original or compelling.

  • Chowderbatter

    No, you really couldn’t.

  • Chowderbatter

    Mike is too busy drinking vermouth and pepsi through a tube from his novelty booze hat while editing the next RLM masterwork.

    Don’t disturb the genius, y’all. We don’t want this wild ride to ever end.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    No wonder Breitbart rants sound better when I read them in my Paul Lynde voice.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Ironically, I just watched ‘Cool As Ice’ the other day… If you ever wanted to see a live-action ‘Poochie’, that’s the film for you.

  • Cakefarts

    Whooooaaahhh?

    (Did I do it right?)

  • Palooka Joe

    The Blade Runner holo-emitter ripped-off Voyager that stole the concept from Red Dwarf.

  • noam paul

    The Transformers movies made more money than Pacific Rim did, so that’s probably what they want you to think.It’s got about 6 writers and it’s directed by some TV guy. I’m sure it’s gonna be great.

  • Bubs

    I think trying to explain what makes it great would require a whole Plinkett review. Suffice to say, I find the core concept to be really compelling: that psychic vampires have been systematically abducting humans from different time periods and experimenting on them in an ever-changing city where it’s always night in an effort to find the soul. Almost every word in that sentence is intriguing to me.

    And yeah, it’s schlocky, but that’s really part of the charm for me. When one of the Strangers floats off the ground it looks both silly and super creepy. The only thing I don’t think really holds up is the way their psychic powers make like a rippling water-effect – it’s a very dated CG technique. Ooh just talking about it makes me want to go watch it.

  • Bubs

    I think trying to explain what makes it great would require a whole Plinkett review. Suffice to say, I find the core concept to be really compelling: that psychic vampires have been systematically abducting humans from different time periods and experimenting on them in an ever-changing city where it’s always night in an effort to find the soul. Almost every word in that sentence is intriguing to me.

    And yeah, it’s schlocky, but that’s really part of the charm for me. When one of the Strangers floats off the ground it looks both silly and super creepy. The only thing I don’t think really holds up is the way their psychic powers make like a rippling water-effect – it’s a very dated CG technique. Ooh just talking about it makes me want to go watch it.

  • Bubs

    I felt like it was pretty clear that Wallace’s motives were completely rooted in his obvious God Complex. I think it was the director’s goal to make a highly critical God allegory in Wallace, without being heavy handed (DO YOU GET IT?).

    Wallace is uncaring to his created race (replicants) and both loves and feels apathy towards them simultaneously (God is a dual force – I love you, but you can burn in hell). Even though they are tools to him, he clearly thinks they’re more valuable than human beings. IMO, he secretly views Replicants as being superior to humans in every single way, and by having reproductive capabilities, he would have effectively created a species which could supercede the human race (thus actually making him more analogous to God, because they can proliferate). He even has those little eye-ball droids which float around (he’s all around you/omnipotent).

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Smegs!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I saw most of it via Rifftrax. The riffers were exhibiting “Manos”-level loathing at the movie.

    **spins baseball cap backwards**

    Word to ya mutha!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    So he lacks the cinematic consistency of an Uwe Boll or Michael Bay?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Sounds like Richard Dawkins did punch up for the script.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    You promised there would be no math.

  • Brian Levine

    I know! My 401K going up 25% since the election is a freaking nightmare!

  • Officer Meow Meow Fuzzyface

    dare I say, even a Paul W. S. Anderson!

  • Bleurgh

    If that’s the case though then it’s kind of a flaw in the movie, because it means all the different factions have the same agenda and could have accomplished more if they just co-operated with one another.

  • ikdks

    I’m seeing hints of Kubrick in Denis Villeneuve.

  • ikdks

    I was at Eides and the guy at the counter said, yeah its good but the box office was disappointing.

    Can’t we just be happy someone made a real movie again?

  • Brian Levine

    So curious…what’s a recent good sci-fi movie that didn’t get much attention that wasn’t a horror movie in disguise?

  • Brian Levine

    Plus he was great in Fantasy Island.

  • Brian Levine

    I used to love Sambo’s, until they shut the chain down. Apparently we don’t like restaurants based on characters from India in this country.

  • Moist

    I typed your question into the internet and got an io9 article titled “14 Recent Scifi Films That Didn’t Need Big Budgets To Be Amazing.”

    Their #1 is “Coherence” and I enjoyed it but maybe it fails your “horror movie in disguise” rule. Don’t read io9’s description, probably best to let it play out without knowing the premise.

  • RLMkeepitup

    is this some expertly crafted sarcasm ?

  • Moist

    I think maybe it’s what the fox says. After wandering into the city for the first time.

  • Comes With Wings

    Not to mention sexually harassing anyone below your level of authority.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Yep, Rifftrax all the way. I wouldn’t have watched it otherwise. Best thing on Amazon Prime.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Yep, Rifftrax all the way. I wouldn’t have watched it otherwise. Best thing on Amazon Prime.

  • Whiskey Jack: Lord of Pith

    Note: Poochie died on the way to his home off-world colony.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I typed the same question and got an article titled “14 Cat Videos that will change your life (You won’t believe #6!)” Then again, I was using Bing as a search engine.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Megan Fox? Michael J. Fox? Lucius Fox?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Sambo was also a character from the novel Uncle Tom’s Cabin. Restaurants based on racist caricatures also don’t do well.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Is DOTCOM still in touch with Grizz?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Harrison Ford is for some reason. It leaves me confused and aroused.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Thanks for the analsis.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Yes, the stock market will never go down. Capitalism is totes rad! I get all my financial advice from Jim Cramer and a bag of coked-out alley cats.

  • Moist

    Shut up, dummy!

  • Moist

    I don’t understand. Is Bing your cat’s name?

  • Duckler

    Yes, if universal Newtonian physics apply in a space fantasy universe. The hovering force will still crush your spine underneath it.

  • Duckler

    Yes, if universal Newtonian physics apply in a space fantasy universe. The hovering force will still crush your spine underneath it.

  • Florian

    Harrison Ford is for some reason. It leaves me confused and aroused.

  • RLMkeepitup

    well the original was a bit of a cult thing too

  • RLMkeepitup

    toss in a venereal disease and call it the hollywood effect

  • ikdks

    But is everybody just too cynical to experience joy in those moments we’re afforded it?

  • ikdks

    That guy’s lobbing for the worlds greatest rlm fan.

    First prize, an std and a watch list.

  • ikdks

    Don’t ruin your friendship with me for five minutes.

  • ikdks

    Don’t ruin your friendship with me for five minutes.

  • sam

    Arrival, maybe?

  • Popo Bawa

    More expensively than it would be to apply the same amount of tech directly?
    It’s a story device that works on a very backwards civilization, or who are trying to humiliate/break the oppressed group. Not unlike how prisons use convict labor. It’s hard to rationalize in-universe when it’s just an insanely convoluted way to mine that happens to oppress a sympathetic group.

  • Brian Levine

    Liked it, but the whole circular time thing could have been done a lot better. But way better than the black hole bookcase BS of Interstellar.

  • RLMkeepitup

    this belongs in the next hallmark card to Mr. Evans, who’s recent lack of cherub-like laughter has left us all apathetic

  • RLMkeepitup

    this belongs in the next hallmark card to Mr. Evans, who’s recent lack of cherub-like laughter has left us all apathetic

  • Moist

    2nd prize: what’s wrong with your face?
    3rd prize: used Death Star popcorn maker.

  • frankelee

    I disagree with Jay about them getting close to over-explaining things. There was way more they should have explained, and modern movies *need* to really explain things because they all have incredibly sloppy stories. I’d love to connect the dots for Blade Runner 2049, but the problem is half the fucking dots don’t match up correctly and the story as written doesn’t really make any sense, and it’s based in a world that isn’t coherent.

  • frankelee

    I disagree with Jay about them getting close to over-explaining things. There was way more they should have explained, and modern movies *need* to really explain things because they all have incredibly sloppy stories. I’d love to connect the dots for Blade Runner 2049, but the problem is half the fucking dots don’t match up correctly and the story as written doesn’t really make any sense, and it’s based in a world that isn’t coherent.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Let’s not turn this into a discussion about Star Trek:Discovery.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    No! We can only measure cinematic worth through box office receipts. That and whether or not the People’s Republic of China likes it. On a totally unrelated note, may I please tell everyone how smart and brave Chairman Mao was during The Long March? Let One Thousand Flowers Bloom!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Proving that Hollywood is no different than the sexual predators in DC and The Vatican.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Hey! I liked Event Horizon.

  • Comes With Wings

    Or anywhere else humans hold sway. We are the virus that preys upon itself, in more ways than one.

    And that’s Nihilism Corner for this week, kids!

  • Officer Meow Meow Fuzzyface

    so did i. it’s the only one of his i enjoy.

  • Bubs

    I don’t think I could disagree with you more. On all points. Love the world, felt the story was very clear and made sense, and I generally agree with Jay on over-explaining when it wasn’t necessary.

  • EJ

    Wasn’t Data created as an experiment to see if a sentient android was possible?

  • EJ

    Wasn’t Data created as an experiment to see if a sentient android was possible?

  • EJ

    Wasn’t Data created as an experiment to see if a sentient android was possible?

  • EJ

    The holodeck is the second dumbest thing in TNG, after the time travel episodes. Is the ability to do Sherlock Holmes cosplay that important that they’d keep this thing around once they realize it can very easily kill you?

  • Yeah I’m pretty sure he was created more as a passionate curiosity than an advancement to make available for factory production.

  • andychrist

    it needed a tacked on 5 min scene at the end of rutger howitzer hammering nails through his hand and waving some eyeballs around , possibly involving a digital recreation of his younger face , while releasing a hundred doves into the air .also a woman fucking a snake . we needed something to clap at .

  • Gerald Potterton

    1:56 Worst Sci-Fi fan ever.

  • EJ

    Blade Runner, and I say this as a huge fan, is the highbrow “turn off your brain” movie. You pull just one thread, and the whole sweater unravels. But you just sit back and get lost in the visuals, and it’s magnificent.

  • EJ

    So, you know how there’s horseshoe theory in politics – where fascism and communism wrap around past left and right and become the same thing?

    I feel like there’s something similar with sci-fi and god-bothering creationism where “science can’t explain somethng”=”it can be whatever the fuck we want.”

    I can imagine the conversation:
    Nolan – “so what does the inside of a black hole look like?”
    Kip Thorne – “well, the physics is very poorly understood, but Stephan Hawking has theorized that…”
    Nolan – “Great, so it can be whatever the hell we want!”
    Thorne – “Well, not exactly…”
    Nolan – “Thanks, Kip, we’ll be sure to credit you as science advisor!”

  • Bleurgh

    I think the new nerd crew was made specifically to troll you.

  • Gerald Potterton

    You’ve got some balls calling the first Blade Runner boring when you made The Recovered.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    If you’re not Grabowskis, you’re little people.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    In the second half, the film loses its thread entirely. There’s a Replicant Rebellion that never happens. Deckard escapes somehow from Wallace. Wallace continues doing his thing. Whatever that is? I have no idea.

    What is going on? I’m all for atmosphere and such, but that gets hindered when I’m in a perpetual state of confusion.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Atlas Shrugged?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Nolan – “DON’T YOU GET IT???”

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Using the 3rd prize gave me the 2nd prize!
    **slide whistle**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Mr. Evans just needs to make some popcorn with the whisper quiet Death Star Popcorn Popper / Fire Hazard.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Why I oughtta–

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