Half in the Bag: Baby Driver and Spider-Man: Homecoming

July 9, 2017175 Comments

Mike and Jay talk about the latest Edgar Wright film Spider-man: Homecoming and the latest Marvel film Baby Driver.


Filed in: Half in the Bag

  • RiverDevil

    watch The Driver with Bruce Dern instead, film noir cat-and-mouse thriller hung on a chase movie, directed by Walter Hill

  • andychrist

    spiderbaby vs driverman

  • Hieronymus Friedrich von Münch

    i actually watched that because edgar wright recommended it in an interview

  • I’m here for the hot Aunt May.

  • We have an original property about a young criminal made by a Director who left a big studio.
    We have new iteration of an established property about a young hero, made by the big studio the Director left.
    The big studio is welcoming back the established property from another big studio that has mostly mishandled the IP in the last decade.
    All we need is for the mishandling studio to employ the Director who left to make an original film for the circle to be complete.

  • But not “the Ant Man”.

  • The Aunt Ma’am?

    I still need to see Baby Driver, though, but it looks like a way, way better film… so I’m skipping the first half of this until I see it later this week.

  • DanceOfBirther

    RLM has finally gone Citizen Kane.

  • moron

    Before actually watching the second part, thanks for not being morons like me and including rich evans in the spiderman discussion.

  • Nyssa Shepard

    I had told people that there was probably no way I would be seeing the next incarnation of Spiderman unless you guys said it was good, which I really did not believe was going to happen. Now I am shocked to discover that Rich gave it something other than a ‘Meh’! The world is changing I guess! :O

  • moron

    Dear God I can’t believe the literal hell that is the Youtube comments section. Why God Why

  • Andrew Carter

    The world has changed: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the Earth, I smell it in the air. What once was is now lost, for none who now live still remember it.

  • Joe Syxpac

    A Spider-Man without a blue space laser or super healing blood?

    Count me out.

  • Andy El Kaufman

    I really enjoyed Baby Driver although I agree that it’s Edgar Wright “weakest” film. Solid movie just not on par with the Cornetto trilogy for me.

    Spider-Man: Homecoming suffered from the same fate as all the Marvel movies have. I’m OK with them until I leave the theater and then I forget everything. I do enjoy hot Aunt May though.

  • Movie Wan Kenovie

    Better to Reign in Hell than to Serve in Heaven

  • Dustin Scarsdale

    Where’s the Transformers 5 review, dammit?

    if you guys can review Jack and Jill and Pixels, I’m pretty sure you can review Transformers 5.

  • You don’t give up, do you? I think you’re building it up too much now as a reaction to your initial disappointment. Saying the movie is stupid would be redundant.

  • Oh snap

  • M Hedonist

    Did Aunt May actually say “you can finish jerking off each other later”

  • If you wanted a good action/crime-thriller movie you should’ve checked out Freefire when you had the chance. Check out other Ben Wheatley films as well, you won’t be disappointed.

  • RiverDevil

    I didn’t realize Wright has been (rightfully) extolling The Driver as a clear inspiration. Now I’m surprised Jay didn’t mention this, just so he could mention that Isabelle Adjani was in the Driver, and then cut to his favorite film. 3,2,3,4-4,2,3 AND

  • Ryan Wood

    Dont try and block me you cunts.

  • Terriosaurus Hex

    I wholeheartedly agree. And I’ve seen neither film either neither.

  • Black Panther trailer won me over just by music alone. Dat beat. Movie looks aight tho

  • GlennBryant

    It was a great film, but not a TRUE Spiderman movie. In the comics and animated series, Spiderman is an errand boy for Madam Web, voiced by the late great Joan Lee, wife of Stan Lee.
    These new Spiderman films treat Spiderman as a coming-of-age story with Spidey leaving home to make his own calls, but in the original material Spidey listens to the old bitty, the mysterious matriarchal madame Web.
    Many are familiar with Madame Web’s ability to communicate with Spidermen from alternate realities. Given all the Spiderman reboots, maybe they are gearing up for the penultimate Spiderman movie where Tobey McGuire, Tom Holland, and Andrew Garfield team up to go on fetch quests for Madame Web just like the comics and animated series!

  • Adam Levine

    Funny, this is one of the few that has stuck with me for days.

  • Steven Gibbs

    Did you notice the parallels between Spiderman Homecoming and the Force Awakens? It’s like poetry, it rhymes.

  • David Anderson

    Rich Evans 10 seconds after being introduced: “Fuck you both!”

  • EJ

    “Brrrzzt Clang Squeee Bong Thunk BOING Fzzzrf Splank”

    There you go.

  • Movie Wan Kenovie

    Wouldn’t it be cool if Edgar Wright directed a superhero movie? Oh… wait…

  • BCFC25

    You cheap fucks couldnt even fly Rich the comic book artist from New York?

    I wanted to know what he thought not this stranger!

  • I love that movie. Am I the only one that noticed “Drive” ripped off its entire opening sequence from that movie? I’d call it an homage but after I watched that film I looked around the web for any hint of Drive acknowledging its predecessor as an influence and I couldn’t find it anywhere.

  • The Elegant Flaw Filial

    I’m honestly a little surprised by the guys’ reaction to the new ‘Spider-Man.’ I respect their opinions, and maybe I need to rewatch it and see if I can appreciate it a little more upon repeat viewings, but I honestly felt that that this movie was a very “meh” experience.
    The Vulture was great, definitely my favorite villain thus far in the MCU. Michael Keaton is charismatic as hell, his motivations were very human and that twist genuinely made me smile. Great stuff.
    The thing that probably surprised me the most about this review was how starkly I disagreed with Rich Evans. This didn’t really feel like a ‘Spider-Man’ movie to me– it felt more like a more racially-diverse ‘Harry Potter’ movie. Like, he’s got his bumbling best friend, he’s got his socially-conscious, fly-on-the-wall bookish female friend, and so on. It’s a likable cast, sure, and Peter doesn’t have thought-bubbles in cinematic form so he pretty much NEEDS friends to verbally commiserate with, but I don’t get THAT much of a sense that he’s an outcast. Like, they show that Peter and Ned are nerdy losers, but the fact that Peter’s main bully, Flash, is on the same Academic Team as he is makes me wonder where that whole social rift between the two of them even comes from. Like, is Flash superior to Peter in terms of social standing because he’s a DJ? Why would the world look down on Peter when even the bullies and cool kids are as nerdy as he is?
    That’s just nitpicking, though. I think that my real problem with this movie is that it knows, in theory, what makes for a good movie but it feels more like an algorithm. The fat comic relief friend, the quirky friend, the personality-free love interest. The Half in the Bag guys were talking about how subversive and interesting this felt for a ‘Spider-Man’ movie but, to me, it really just felt like someone punched a “make-a-likable-enough-superhero-movie-about-teenagers” program into a computer and this is what came up. It was definitely entertaining and charming, but I really did feel it was missing an emotional core. The movie tells us that Peter is a loser, but I don’t really get that impression. The movie tells us that Peter’s this working-class hero, but he pretty much has a billionaire bank-rolling him. That’s why I don’t really understand Rich’s exclamations about how finally, FINALLY they got this character right! Peter Parker was struggling financially, emotionally, romantically, all that shit in the Sam Raimi movies. He doesn’t quip as much, but all that shit was present in the Stan Lee/Steve Ditko comics, so I genuinely have no idea where Rich gets this whole “they’ve NEVER gotten Spider-Man right in the movies” thing from. Spider-Man is, essentially, about a guy who’s burdened by his super-responsibilities. And it ruins his life. In this movie, though, what were the consequences of him being Spider-Man? He missed the state finals? His team won anyway, and they immediately forgave him. He lost the girl? She would have moved away, anyway. The neurosis and self-doubt of Spider-Man are washed away, his own unique motivations for him being a superhero are entirely absent (he’s more a general Avengers fanboy than he is a specific character with a specific background), and that, to me, kind of makes the movie less than the sum of its parts.
    Anyway, I look forward to see more of these movies with this ensemble cast over the course of the next twenty years. They’ll grow before our very eyes!
    Also, ‘Baby Driver’ was pretty good.

  • Layer Cake

    One of the best episodes yet! A real return to from with great comedy writing and good insights from all 3 panelists. Mike pointing out Rich not feeling “meh” about Spider-Man as a glowing recommendation was a perfect summation.

    Quick question though, my wife and I recently rewatched the Wheel of the Worst episode that featured that demonic rainbow clown Eloise Cole, and I was curious who edited that episode? There were no credits at the end of that one and my wife and I need to settle a bet.

    Thanks for another amazing episode. It seems more and more lately that the annoying segment of RLM’s fanbase may be wearing on you guys, but just remember you make a lot of people very happy.

  • RLMkeepitup

    that’s one hairy ass man, that Harry S. Plinkett. (S for sexy)

  • Jonny Edworthy

    I sincerely hope the hilarity of Alden Ehrenreich needing an acting coach hasn’t been lost on anyone who’s seen Hail, Caesar!

  • fred

    ME PERSONALLY — I found Homecoming to be a disappointment. The Vulture was so fucking gangsta I wanted the movie to be mostly about him and not Spidey, who jokes constantly (like movie Deadpool) and is also 95% not funny (also like movie Deadpool). Spidey also made a few hypocritical decisions, some of which the film takes no notice of. And morally speaking the Vulture was probably right, but fuck it, Spidey has to save the day and send him to jail at the end of the fucking movie like always.

    So, middle of the road for me. The gadgets and alien tech and the Vulture were pretty badass, and a few clever things happened but overall it felt more like a cliche than actual Highschool (which most people say is realistic in this film even though the dialogue is as 80s cheese as ever).

    Marvel needs to up their music. Iron Man 1 had a mix of cool songs, and a unique score which pops in at the right moments. Homecoming had this constant operatic DUU DU DU DU DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH tune which irritated the shit out of me. It’s a 5/10 (5 for the clever opening, Tony, Vulture, cool tech). Das jus like…my opinion man.

  • Angela

    No, Jay, you cannot come into my house and tell me about God’s good news.

  • mister man

    Thanks Spider Man.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Everybody gets one.

  • RLMkeepitup

    Will spiderman return?

  • frankelee

    It’s the second reboot you stupid hacks. And me personally, and also then objectively, it was really great.

  • azicat

    I was going to pass on seeing Spiderman at the moopie cinema, but your review has changed my mind. Hopefully it signals more character-driven stories with a smaller contained scope, rather than the grand apocalyptic narratives (at least until Infinity War blows this out of the water).

    This is where DC and Zac Snyder got it wrong, amongst other things. They started with the end-of-the-world spectacle, total destruction, and blue lasers first – and are only now catching up with character development. Even Wonder Woman failed towards the end with its demigod boss battle explosion festival.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Third. You forgot the 70s.

  • MichaelKz

    Mormon Jay can take his Bible fan-fiction and shove it.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    well, if nobody is gonna mention the obvious elephant in the room…so, michael keaton *did* after all this new birdman-movie after this last artsy attempt from 2014, right? sure paid off for his career, but stuck again as a man with wings in NJC in 2017.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    thanks birdman aka the vulture

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    jay sez thats an actual line in the movie.

  • EJ

    Thiderman.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    maybe because theDriver isnt a really known film to this day? which is weird despite the cast. most people would find it probably boooring. I dont love it, but its a pretty good movie.

  • EJ

    Really? I was entertained by it, but it seemed almost like a technical exercise, i.e. “can you really make a compelling feature film with basically no plot at all?”

  • EJ

    I loved Baby Driver, but this review is spot on. It didn’t quite have the emotional payoff that the Pegg-Wright collaborations have. Something I’ve admired about them is how they can drop a joke right into the middle of the dramatic climax of the film, and yet the scene still lands. (“- [your dad] is acting like judge, jury, and executioner! – He’s NOT Judge Judy and executioner!”) Good theory that it might very well be the absence of Pegg.

    And, yeah, considering how good Edgar Wright is at synching action to music, and how slick the opening scenes are, I wanted more of that.

  • primitive screwhead

    I dont know why people have a problem with Raimi’s first 2 Spiderman movies. I liked homecoming but Spidey 2 Doc Ock Evil Dead scene is better then anything in this movie. Spiderman 2 is still one of the best Superhero movies ever. And nobody has even touched his cinematography in any other Spiderman movie.

  • I mean – that’s kind of what I found great about it. Other than really well written characters played by great actors – you basically had an entire movie called “Freefire” that was about – well – a firefight. It may only apply to my very specific tastes, the minimalistic plot is part of what I liked about it – it was probably the most geographically coherent gunfight I’ve seen in a movie in a long time – I almost want to call the main act of it like if you stuck a bunch of believable characters into a video game shootout – it sounds stupid but it was so bizarre it worked for me. My comment about the writing was more to the dialogue, not to the bare bones plotline. That was just a framework and for me it worked – I could see it not working for people as well. I was laughing pretty hard at all the diplomatic shit going on in the midst of it – who’s on who’s side? Who’s shooting at who? How did things get this out of hand? It walked a thin balance between casual and witty and didn’t overplay its hand in that regard.

  • Thanatos

    No, they just go with “put some clothes on”

  • Urdus

    The problem of formats such as RLM is they need to please their fanbase. But if Hollywood only produces bad to mediocre movies what are you gonna do? Ofc we have Plinkett but if we think about it he too pleases the fanbase. The one who hates the Prequels. Not that I blame RLM. It’s just how this works.

  • Strelnikov

    Forgot the “Wajj-Eejj-Jjijj-It” transformation sound.

  • Chowderbatter

    There are some very smart people in Hollywood surrounded by many not-smart people.

    Regarding the “need” for an origin story each movie, what is the most successful, longest serial franchise of all time? Bond.

    You’d think some of these assholes might have caught a Bond film here or there. Does each Bond film need to show us young James being born in the UK to establish that he’s British? Do we need to see him training as a secret agent to know he’s a spy? Do we need to see his dad or uncle or mom or wife die so we can understand why he needs to fight villains? Do we need to dedicate 45 minutes to explain why he prefers shaken to stirred?

    Fuck no.

    A typical Bond movie opens with Bond sitting at a baccarat table. A pretty lady says something. Bond says something. They go to his hotel room. A Chinese guy tries to drop a cobra on Bond from his ceiling hiding place. Bond fights him and then is carried away to a distant volcano by personal jetpack where he fights a shark with a pen.

    All of this happens in the first 90 seconds of the film.

    And we’re fucking okay with it. Very, very, very okay with it.

    Learn, Hollywood, learn.

  • Spoiled Ants

    Wouldn’t be the first Star Wars film to hire an actor mainly because of his looks instead of acting skills.

  • EJ

    There’s an “Every Frame a Painting” where Tony takes Marvel to task specifically for how unmemorable and uninteresting their use of music is. You’d think they’d have learned something after everybody made so much noise about how cool the Guardians score was, but apparently not.

  • Spoiled Ants

    Yeah, he made two videos: one about the music and one about the lackluster cinematography of the MCU films.

  • Spoiled Ants

    You mean the movie directed by the late and great Andrzej Żuławski?

  • frankelee

    If we’re counting made for television, then yes. But at least I was still right about them being stupid hacks.

  • Spoiled Ants

    All that is left is for him, is to play the Penguin or Condor Man.

  • Brian Levine

    I agree. I had little issues with the first two movies, other than how Mary Jane was handled (done perfectly in the comics where Peter is constantly ditching opportunities to meet her).

    But the third film was so awful, it brings down that whole series.

  • Brian Levine

    Fourth if you want to count the Japanese film.

  • Brian Levine

    In his dream world.

  • Brian Levine

    Are we ever going to get Space Ghost The Movie?

  • Brian Levine

    Oh lord…you just gave me the creeps imagining if JJ Abrams were hired to make a Bond origin movie.

  • Brian Levine

    The “Ain’t Mom”.

  • Cakefarts

    “No one gives a shit.”
    — Rich Evans. (muttering BOTW 48)

  • primitive screwhead

    Knowing the third one is out there almost makes it hard to watch the first two.

  • Movie Wan Kenovie

    Amen to that, PS! Spidey 2 is also one of my all time favourites. People tend to forget older movies as easily as they drop their standards. Honestly!

  • frankelee

    Fifth if we’re counting the time I filmed a Spider-Man action figure with a VHS recorder and then watched on my television in the early 90s.

  • ErnestRister

    Everything is about to change.
    Forget all you think you know.
    Rise of the Dawn of the Birth of the Revenge. Summer 2019.

  • ErnestRister

    Paul Williams had a bit comedy part in Smokey and the Bandit, sounds like an homage to another driving movie to me, along with the improbable romance.

  • Brian Levine

    I’d say ‘put it up on Youtube’, but Disney would likely sue you back to the Silver Age. The world’s changin’.

  • EJ

    It was implied.

  • Brian Levine

    Funny that Jedi didn’t bring down the Star Wars Trilogy, though it wasn’t as bad as SandMan 3. But before the Prequels, we used to hammer Jedi pretty hard.

  • Brian Levine

    A good emotional scene can handle a good comedy line (dare I say “Hit Weezer!”?).

  • primitive screwhead

    If you think about it it’s kind of like the prequels. People seem a little more forgiving of spidey 3 when you compare it to the Amazing movies.

  • fred

    The opening score for the Sam Rami films were so badass.

  • DRP103

    You have to ask yourself just one question: Is baby driver better than any ’70s Clint Eastwood movie?

  • RLMkeepitup

    there’s talk of a fury road prequel.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Sixth if we count Dan Poole’s work.

  • alex doucet

    sam raimi spidermans movies is the bestest. In the new one spiderman doesn’t even have an emo haircut or dance. wtf?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Minnie Driver?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Mad Max: Moderately Disappointed Road?

  • Chuck Afterburner

    Heist set to music? So I take it none of you are familiar with Hudson Hawk starring Bruce Willis? A true piece of doo doo it is. Music used to drive the move? Are you guys familiar with a film maker named Martin Scorsese? Guffaw! No really I could never watch any of these two extremely douchey looking movies, I don’t know how you guys do it. I would love to see a review of the new season of Twin Peaks.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Mad Max: Slightly Miffed Road?

  • Spoiled Ants

    They should’ve freeze framed and roll the credits right there.

  • Spoiled Ants

    Baby Mario vs Vanellope Von Schweetz.
    I’m still waiting for the MarioKart trilogy, Hollywood!

  • Spoiled Ants

    Mad Max: Five stages of Grief Road

  • Doctor John Smith

    Mint Royale.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Adam Driver?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Royale with Cheese.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I hope it stars either Hansel Yogurt or Tom Hollandaise.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Mad Max: Meh … I’ve Seen Better … Road

  • Pop Culture Reference

    **Clyde gives the biker gang the finger**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Have Lars von Trier direct it instead.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    It needed a good Pegging?
    **slide whistle**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Birdman 2: The Birdemic

  • Pop Culture Reference

    He’ll return in Spiderman: Senior Prom.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Jay and Mike look like Mormon missionaries cosplaying hobos.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    But will the Alden Ehrenreich annex the Sudetenland?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I’ll be in my bunk.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    No. Can you draw me a pie chart?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The world is changing.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    And Aunt May is hot.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Youtube comments are reason enough to sterilize humanity.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Mike and Rich are going for the Orson Welles cosplay.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Would Aunt May be an AILF?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    It’s no MegaForce.

  • Norm Chomsky

    A supernova blows up the bonds’ yacht killing his parents.he’s rescued and raised/trained by Liam neeson

  • Norm Chomsky

    I think most people still like those ones, the only real issue is that Tobey felt a bit too perfect and not like a teenager

  • Norm Chomsky

    Except me. I was alive when it happened as was Hugo Weaving

  • The Elegant Flaw Filial

    Yeah, really, if Rich is gonna cite how “Spider-Man needs to be a kid who is barely treading water and is in way over his head” is a reason for NOT liking ‘Spider-Man 2,’ then I honestly wish he would elaborate a bit, because that’s what ‘Spider-Man 2’ WAS.
    I honestly just think he wanted Spidey to be younger and quipy, because I really don’t understand his gripes.

  • Jonny Edworthy

    Would that it were so simple.

  • Jonny Edworthy

    I thought they went too far in a few places.

  • Kaingerc

    come on Mike, they keep making reboots and sequel and Disney live action adaptations…. THE WORLD IS CHANGING!

  • Joe Syxpac

    Mad Max: Insufferably Apathetic Road

  • EJ

    Mad Max: It’s just a fuckin road, OK?

  • EJ

    You’re right, I’m pretty sure the RLM guys are unaware of Martin Scorsese’s use of music in his films. They clearly don’t watch a lot of movies or know much about them, and Scorsese is a pretty obscure director who is not very familiar to most people.

  • EJ

    It’s funny because the novels actually tell you about Bond’s parents and childhood, and even with that none of the movies have ever bothered to bring it up. The closest you get is Skyfall where he goes back to his ancestral home (in the books his father was Scottish and his mother was Swiss).

  • EJ

    A Soviet attack on a lab dedicated to genetically engineering the most stereotypically British person leaves only the latest prototype alive. He is raised and trained by Judi Dench. (Not Judi Dench playing M, but actually Judi Dench in real life)

  • Joe Syxpac

    Mad Max: It’s Actually More of a Trail

  • EJ

    Mad Max: Next Services, 3000 Miles.

  • EJ

    Jedi is nowhere near as bad as the prequels. Sure the ewoks are goofy, Boba Fett’s death is disappointing, and Vader’s redemption at the end doesn’t make a whole lot of sense, but all in all Jedi is still a solid movie.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Donald Driver?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Mad Max: Ambivelous Shrug

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Slender Man?

  • EJ

    Mad Max: Amphibious Slug

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Mad Max: “Fuck You Both!”, a one-man stage play starring Rich Evans.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    It’s complicated.

  • EJ

    Mad Max: A Dingo Ate My Baby!

  • Chuck Afterburner

    I know!

  • Chowderbatter

    James at 16.

    YouTube –> watch?v=Hf5CmNhwpSU

  • Chowderbatter

    Trust me. You need to see that video. I fuxxored the link because posting a YouTube link sends the post to “waiting to be approved” limbo where its chances of being greenlit are exactly 0%.

    Sheesh. All this for a tiny joke.

  • Moist

    Too subtle.

  • Moist

    Mad Max: What do you think you’re looking at, sugar tits?

    I enjoy the topical jokes!

  • Moist

    Her cheeks ain’t mini!

    Word play!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Mad Max: This is my BOOMSTICK!!!

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Cypress Hill taught the proper handling techniques for Mary Jane.

  • Moist

    I just ate. How about a venn diagram instead?

  • Moist

    So what if Dylan went electric? It’s not as if the older stuff is hard to find.

  • Moist

    Good luck with that, she only eats cats.

    I kill me!

  • EJ

    He’s talking specifically about the more recent ones. He starts off by asking people on the street, “sing some music from Star Wars,” which of course everyone can do. Then the James Bond theme, then Harry Potter, and ditto, everyone knows those. But then he asks people to sing a theme, any theme, from any recent Marvel movie, and even people who claim to be big Marvel fans totally draw a blank.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I don’t care how veined your diagrams are.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    She tried to lick that posse that killed Uncle Ben. Show some goddamn respect!
    **slide whistle**

  • Mike Magnum

    I kinda have to disagree about Spider-man. While i didn’t think the movie was bad and i think Holland and Keaton did a good job in there roles.. I was total underwhelmed with it. For one thing i think this had the weakest supporting cast of any of the Spider-man movie including Amazing. Other than maybe Ned. All the highschool characters were underdeveloped and Aunt May is nowhere to be found in this movie except for a few scene.

    Say what you will about Sam Raimi Spider-man movies. But i think Uncle Ben death gave those films some emotional weight. Something that i feel is complete missing from this movie. I don’t need to see Uncle Ben death again. But in the scene were he trap under the rubble. Maybe instead thinking of some random words from Tony Stark. Maybe he could think back to something Uncle Ben said or just thinking about Aunt May living alone. You know something personal.

    Personally i feel Sam Raimi got more right than he got wrong. While i don’t mind quipy Spider-man. But That not why i love the character. I love spider-man for his inner turmoil and having deal with all the stuff that life throw at him. Overall i think the movie was good. And Normally i can get over the marvel movies flaws and enjoy it for what it is. But this was just “meh” for me.

  • Mike Magnum

    You know normally i can overlook the flaws in these movies and just enjoy them for what they are. But i have kinda of harder time with this one. And how you describe Peter is pretty much what makes him interesting to me. I think Tom Holland overall did a decent job. But its too bad he wasn’t given more to work with. Mike and Jay are always talking about these movie playing it too safe. I think this movie did just that. By avoid anything that could bring more emotion to the fore of the film.

    Frankly every time the movie moved the focus to the high school. I just didn’t want to be there. I just didn’t care for these awkward characters. I guess Ned was o.k.. But that was about it. I know they were going for some John Hughes inspired film. But im not a John Hughes Fan. When i was a Teenager. The last thing i wanted to be was a Teenager. So his movies don’t really appeal to me. Frankly i think it was a good idea that Raimi move Spider-man out of High School as soon as he could.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Baby Doll?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Donald Glover?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    The wrestling match with Randy Savage would be hard to replicate, since Mr. “The Macho Man” Savage is dead. In other news, here’s Fred Astaire dancing with a goddamn vacuum cleaner.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Starring Dame Judi Dench as Space Ghost?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Is this an argument or the Spanish Inquisition giving out last chances?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Isn’t “demonic rainbow clown” redundant?

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Or how Stanley Kubrick uses music in his movies.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Were there any rainy scenes? Asking for a friend.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Jack Lloyd was like a young Robert DeNiro … from Rocky and Bullwinkle.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Of all the places to expect racial diversity, I didn’t expect New York City to be on that list.
    **writing in print that can be seen from space: SARCASM!!!!**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    I’m waiting for Terrence Malick’s Squirrel Girl.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    Starring Bob Dylan as Electro. Sure, I’d watch that.

  • Spoiled Ants

    I was referring to Adam Sandler, Kevin James and David Spade playing Jar Jar Binks, Boss Nass and Watto.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Baby-Man and Spider Driver.

  • instant relief

    Oh, man, remember Red Letter Media?

  • instant relief

    Worst comment of all times.

  • Pop Culture Reference

    **immediately bleaches brain**

  • Pop Culture Reference

    **guy’s head exploding from that one scene in “Scanners,” looped for 58 minutes, but with “transforming sounds” in background**

  • John Luck Pickerd

    Lasto beth nin, tolo dan na ngalad.

  • Doctor John Smith

    Well I am a 12 year old girl. I’m new to commenting.

  • instant relief

    The life of a commenter is no easy feat, young lady. It’s not for everyone.

  • Tommy Wiseau

    Oh man. How can a baby be a driver? This is sound very irresponsible.

  • TomBaum

    I came away feeling the same.

  • dammitddawg

    I was surprised you guys didn’t talk about the references to the Saimi Spiderman movies: the upside down kiss reference, the bad guy glider/wingsuit flying around unmanned attacking him, holding the boat together with his body sort of crucifixion pose like Toby Mcguire in Spiderman 2 with the train. And I got the Sam Raimi feeling in more subtle moments like the green stoplight shining on Michael Keaton’s face when he realizes Spiderman’s identity.
    But I was more cynical in that I figured a lot of that stuff was in there on purpose to mask the fact that some of the major plot points, or maybe really just the one plot point, is so similar to the original Sam Raimi spiderman — that the bad guy is the father of the love interest, like the bad guy being the father of the best friend. I feel like they wrote that, realized how that would make people roll their eyes, and then put in a bunch of references to that movie to make it seem like all of it was them paying homage.

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