Dawn of the Dead – re:View

October 25, 2016133 Comments

When there’s no more room in Hell, Mike and Jay will discuss the George A. Romero zombie classic Dawn of the Dead and manage to avoid using the phrase “social commentary” the entire time.

Filed in: re:View

  • frankelee

    I like that they’re more or less giving up on modern movies.

  • El_Runko

    I need that sweater.

  • Adzl33t

    Easy way to remember Ken Foree’s character is that Foree’s also called Roger on Kenan and Kel :p

  • Michael Collins

    I love this movie, and remember seeing it back in 78, there was nothing else like it back then, brilliant.
    Of course the version I saw was censored to high heaven by the Irish censors, and it was still amazing.

  • In a survival situation acquiring clean water from a tap isn’t actually that much of a priority. As no one is going to “turn it off”.

  • Adzl33t

    But mantinence for clean water may be limited

  • The Jaws Awakens

    1, 2 Jay’s coming for you, 3. 4, better lock your door, 5, 6…..

  • True…so like 6 months out shit’s gonna get hairy.

  • Romero should have continued to release Dead films with titles that referenced increasingly obscure times of day. When he reached ‘Cocktail Hour of the Dead’ and ‘Brunch of the Dead’, he should have changed tack and released anthologies of one minute films under titles such as 3:01pm GMT of the Dead.

  • Like Icare

    3:10 to Yuma… of the Dead.

  • Like Icare

    Dingleberries.

  • SqualrusWalrus

    I am really starting to appreciate these RE:view episodes. I like that these guys are still growing, still thinking about new things, constantly creating.

  • Omega

    I think Leon S. Kennedy from Resident Evil 2/Biohazard 2 was modeled after the character of Roger deMarco. Would also explain why Leon runs around with this blue (SWAT) clothes despite the fact he is supposed to be a normal police officer.

  • Ren1

    Excellent re:View! This series is the one I most look forward to now besides BOTW. I was a little distressed about a month ago to see the prices for this film and then Jay mentioned it’s no longer in production.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    the 2004-version is a pretty shitty movie, but the roughly first 10 minutes are *so* good, that I am convinced that these just can’t be from hack snyder at all. just not possible…

    btw: its not a crocodile, thats an alligator.

  • Paulus Decimus Meridius

    I can’t believe you didn’t talk about the damn music. The european OST by Goblin MAKES this movie, the original one is terrible 50’s cliche horror music. Now I wonder if you hacks know wtf I’m talking about.

  • DasKleineTeilchen

    here we go; there is a new 1978 DawnOfTheDead-blueray-release in
    restored 4K coming out on november, 17th including all the cuts
    (european and us)

    (goddammid! the post with a link to bloody-disgusting isnt going through, so just google it)

  • Caruso S.

    In the comments for the re:View of THE GATE I requested an episode on DAY OF THE DEAD. This was not an episode on DAY OF THE DEAD. Although you frauds did mention it a bit. It was almost a Halloween miracle.

  • Joe Syxpac

    Jay has his “Freddy” sweater on and Mike has his “I just rolled out of bed” hoodie on.

    It’s like they coordinated or somethin’.

  • Cream-A-Thon

    What does Mike get excited about if not horror, Star Wars, new releases, or the panoply of life? Is his being dead inside just a “thing” for this review or the sign of a more serious trend?

  • I remember reading somewhere a long time ago (very legitimate source, I know) that Leon’s uniform was blue because it was seen as a “heroic” color. Dante in Devil May Cry (which began development as Resident Evil 4) was garbed in red to emphasize his contrast as a less traditional hero, or something like that. I don’t know, could all be bullshit.

  • RiverDevil

    Video games, obviously

  • RLMkeepitup

    maybe he’s scene too much, far too much

  • Paulus Decimus Meridius

    Demonic possesion he likes.

  • John

    What happened to the extended version?

  • Barry Bremner

    George A. Romero is a hack, Dawn of the Dead is an especially lame Romero zombie pic, a vastly over-rated horror, the zombies are just so, so bad!

  • strasilo

    How do you pass a good Hillary zombie joke for a lame Donald vampire joke in your ZOMBIE movie review? You frauds!

  • Percy Gryce

    “Based on a True Story”

  • Percy Gryce

    Oh, and Tremors and Ghostbusters.

  • Palpatine

    One is a neat looking horror film buff and the other is a slob who loves Star Trek. It’s like they’re some couple that’s odd.

  • Percy Gryce

    I wanted a re:View of Big Trouble in Little China and we got Escape From New York. Meh.

  • Percy Gryce

    We can’t post links because once upon a time we had some very bad children commenting on this webzone.

  • Mugato

    The remake was a lot better than the original.

  • Alex Doucet

    The European version is as good as it sounds.

  • More like open the door…amaright?

  • Craig

    The mall is still there if anyone wants to make a pilgrimage. Monroeville Mall in Monroeville, PA outside Pittsburgh.

  • RiverDevil

    And Rocketeer

  • RiverDevil

    Look crocodile brain

  • Jessica Meyer

    Well I was going to call these hack frauds out for not including “Return of the Living Dead” among their dead movie discussion because – HELLO- naked punk zombie stripper, but then I found out I apparently own a $100+ DVD. :O

  • Joe Syxpac

    He needs an intervention.

    We should go over there with Transformers, Phantom Menace, and Matrix Reloaded to get him out of the slump.

  • Joe Syxpac

    I donno, that sweater is really faded compared to how it looked last year.

    Kinda makes Jay look poor.

  • Markham

    You got this RLM, you got this by the ass!

  • maikimo

    been a long time since i’ve seen this movie. they keep showing the ‘head explosion’, followed by a two second clip of a woman screaming. her head is so proportionally large in the clip that it looks uncanny. it has to be doctored in some way. is it the rlm guys?–or was that part of the movie? am i imagining it?

  • Clinton Arneson

    At 27:23, a tiny bug crawls out from under the table, and ambles nonchalantly toward Mike.

  • Frank Lovejoy

    The remake was great until the preview part ended and Hack Snyder decided to play his record collection for you. After that it was actually clunkier than the original: zombie baby, tin-ear lines like “America always takes care of her shit”, Sarah Polley’s ‘political’ rant (thankfully left on the editing floor outside of the ‘extended cut’). The tiresome redneck racist trope. That jokey yuppie guy.

    The original has lots of flaws but you know what? It’s the original. They created something and made some missteps; doesn’t that make the incompetent remake (and all of the current incompetent remakes) seem doubly pathetic?

  • JayStrang

    It totally does. So awesome.

  • Frank Lovejoy

    Good to see someone else felt that same rift. The opening was so well-done I was convinced I would love the movie. But then there was the obligatory montage set to Johnny Cash (he’s so hot right now) and a complete slide into shit.

  • Frank Lovejoy

    Well, during hurricanes you’re not supposed to drink tap water. Because in addition to the fact that the pressure has to come from somewhere, toxic things (like bodies or offal) could have floated into the reservoir … which I would think would be a major problem in a zombie apocalypse.

  • Indiana Jaws

    unless you’re Cameron Mitchell

  • Indiana Jaws

    is that you Zack Snyder

  • Indiana Jaws

    That was George Lucas

  • john smith

    Actually, Dawn Of The Dead is a social commentary of consumer culture.

  • Michel

    Actually I hated the Goblin soundtrack, as it does not transport enough emotions IMO. I was so pissed when I rewatched the movie many years later on VHS (Goblin), after having seen it in the theater (typical, “cliche” soundtrack). The movie lost almost all of its impact and I wondered why I was so impressed then.
    I may be a cliche simpleton.

  • Caruso S.

    I thought they would’ve done one on GALAXY QUEST when the new Trek movie came out, or even STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE (aka, The Booooooring One) but they fucked that up too.

    But, hey, these hacks know what they’re doing. They did two Dorffsploitation films back to back.

  • Sans_Fi

    Love the Re:View series. Keep them up guys

  • bleurgh

    Bank Holiday Weekend of the Dead?

  • Paulus Decimus Meridius

    You’re not, I guess the first time really leaves a mark.

  • snot house

    there needs to be someone on set to tell mike to quit while he’s ahead with his little quips. jay certainly won’t do it

  • Welcome Back Otter

    The Long Dark Tea Time of the Dead.

  • Welcome Back Otter

    Yes, even Half in the Bag got a lukewarm reception at first.

  • Welcome Back Otter

    The opening credits of Watchmen were great too. The reality is Zach Snyder is a great director… of music videos.

  • Welcome Back Otter

    It’s advertised on blu-Ray at the bottom of the page for $30!

    Edit: that’s actually Day Of. My mistake.

  • Kenlin Bros

    Glory?

  • The First Sunday After Epiphany of the Dead.

  • Variant

    Well at least Mike didn’t try to refer to those possession movies he loves so much as “horror films”. Because, you know – they’re not.

  • RLMkeepitup

    I think its just the angle, looks large in the full movie too

  • bassbait

    I saw the first 10 minutes of this movie and turned it off because I thought I had put in the wrong movie. Then I never finished it. Anyways, Neil Breen’s new film is out and I can’t afford it.

  • RLMkeepitup

    I’d guess left4dead did take character inspiration from the 2004 version

  • RLMkeepitup

    oh wow, but 31$ …what is this, space cop?

  • RLMkeepitup

    v̶a̶m̶p̶i̶r̶e̶ CG zombie baby!

  • Mike Magnum

    Actually i found the characters in the original to be more relatable. The remake is probably Zack Snyder best movies. That not saying much. But i couldn’t care less if any of the characters lived or died.

  • Ragged Gypsy

    George Romero’s: Lent of the Dead!

  • I don’t get that reference…

  • Deep.

  • Oh wait…yes I do…took me a second.

  • hadn’t thought about that.

  • Variant

    Despite the lame zombie makeup for just about everyone except for flyboy (his was strangely much more detailed and wrinkly even though he had just died), most of the actors/actresses playing zombies had fantastic body language. There’s just something about the way they moved, like their equilibrium was all fucked up. The movie successfully manages to be both comical and horrifying in the way zombies are shown.

  • DRP103

    Should have thrown in some thoughts on The Walking Dead while they were at it. A show with pee-pee pants Negan needs to be analysed stat.

  • The Wicker Man (BWF)

    This is a discussion about Dawn and Romero. Linnea Quigley is great as Trash in Return, but it isn’t part of this series. Fulci’s “Zombi 2” would be a better fit.

  • The Wicker Man (BWF)

    What are your good zombie films?

  • The Wicker Man (BWF)

    Why are you trying to out hipster Jay? Any fan of the movie know this. I like the original as it’s campier. Both are good though.

  • That’s My Jaws

    Cameron close the f…king doors! Mitchell …yeah actually me either

  • Alex Doucet

    I’d love to see a re:View on the 1990 ninja turtles movie.

  • Frank Lovejoy

    Daylight Savings Time of the Dead!

  • AreyouaNazi? Isthatyourelf?

    Where’s our Halloween commentary track you hack frauds!

  • Thanatos

    Yeah until a zombie falls in the reservoir. Then you’re fucked.

  • Thanatos

    Daylight Savings Time of the Dead

  • Thanatos

    He gets his joy from Modern Family, apparently?

  • Thanatos

    That thing wasn’t so tiny….looked like a small cockroach!

  • Variant

    I often wonder about these types of remakes… do you think a director like Zack Snyder is actually a fan of the material? I just have a hard time picturing someone being a fan of a classy old zombie flick like this, and remaking it as a high-octane action hollywood blockbuster. Like, money couldn’t have been the only thing on his mind right? He strikes me as the type who likes the source material he goes to, but doesn’t entirely get what made it good. Or he just really likes his paycheck even more than the source material.

  • Variant

    Not everyone has to buy new clothes every year. Wear that shit out.

  • Variant

    I love the progressive synth/rock/fusion/funk track that comes on every time things are going well for them. I was also a tiny bit disappointed all they mentioned was that the music was “unfitting”.. maybe to most. Sometimes unfitting music is the most fitting somehow. Not everything has to be creepy haunting ambience and orchestral scores – throw some jams in there.

  • Variant

    Too bad he has fucking shit taste in music.

  • Variant

    Everything does at first.

  • Variant

    Midnight Snack of the Dead

  • Christopher Kulik

    Which is why this should have been posted next month to celebrate Black Friday, but I digress. There are shots in this movie which literally mirror what goes on at Wal-marts and shopping malls.

  • Christopher Kulik

    I wanted to go there to go ice skating, but now its the food court 🙁

  • Like Icare

    Listen to a DVD commentary by him sometimes.
    You will hear the word “cool” repeated so many times (particularly to explain the reasoning for something being done a certain way) that you will get the urge to murder your fridge.

  • Valter Eriksen

    27:23, The infamous, iconic cockroach scene from Dawn of the Dead – re:View

  • Variant

    I remember Jay mentioning this, was curious if it was as bad as he made it out to be

  • RiverDevil

    You might not have noticed it, but your brain did

  • Red Skeleton

    So my wife and I have been big fans of Criminal Minds since 2010. Now don’t get me wrong, Mandy Patinson was awesome in the show, although his replacement Joe Mantegna has really grown on me over the years. But today I started looking into his other works…

    He was the main villain of Baby’s Day Out…

    Oh no….

    OH NO!!

    BABY’S DAY OUT!?!

    BrB, fucking the pain away…

  • Mugato

    It was barely a remake. It had zombies in a mall setting. Those were the only similarities. The characters, dialog and overall story were different.

  • Variant

    I agree, but it’s kind of a chicken and egg thing – is Zach Snyder a fan of zombies in general, or was he a fan of this particular flick and thought he was updating the source material in his own visionary way? If the former, then yes perhaps someone said “well if you wanna make a zombie film, Zach Snyder, you should do Dawn of the Dead because that’s a name people know”. It’s hard to say. I think Zach Snyder likes things but just doesn’t get them, and also is a massive yes-man to producers because he likes money.

  • Skewed_View

    Except Black Friday brings the fast zombies.

  • Chuck Afterburner

    I used to think the blue/green zombies were kind of dumb and “comic bookish” as its always called and then I saw that Brakhage documentary “The Act of Seeing With Ones Own Eyes” which is footage of autopsies in a morgue. Every corpse in the film is green or blue! Dawn of The Dead actually achieved authenticity (Savini’s gore FX based on his Vietnam combat photography) yet people still bitched it looked fake as death is mostly hidden when possible in the modern developed world.

  • Like Icare

    He was great in Thinner.

  • EJ

    There really ought to be a way to hire him to direct the first 10 minutes of any big Hollywood action blockbuster – and then get out of the way once the movie needs to actually start telling a story.

  • the_great_laertes

    Dawn of the Dead and 300 are great, but in my opinion Snyder’s best movie is Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga’Hoole. Alas, it seems to be mostly forgotten nowadays.

  • RLMkeepitup

    gotta blame Hooever came up with that title

  • LameSame

    I never saw it, but gave it a search after reading your post. Thought it was just a nobody-director project back when it came out. Gotta say, I’m intrigued. I like some of Snyder’s more honed-in stuff.

  • New Normal Bot

    Shoulda had Mike on screen-left in this video; he’s sort of leading the discussion and Jay is like the go-to expert who fills in the details of the subjects raised by Mike.
    Should always have the person leading the discussion on screen-left.

  • Variant

    It’s not so much the color that bothers me as the fact that there wasn’t any visible decomposition to hardly any of them. Maybe when the virus restarts them decomposition stops? I always thought this movie was going for the classic “undead” approach, though, and therefore I’d expect a little degradation of tissue matter scattered here and there. Even still, I think it looked a little too spray-painted on.

  • LameSame

    So I’ve been watching the new season of South Park… does anyone else get the feeling that Parker and Stone might be RLM fans?

  • New Normal Bot

    Holy shit how the fuck did you spot that?

  • Omega

    I think it’s not wise nor fair to compare original and remake 1 to 1. No CGIs in the 70s for example. But zombie baby was great so even if I had prefered a chest/belly burster. Or a combined mom/baby monster zombie.

  • RLMkeepitup

    jonesing for a commentary. something ‘scary’ but also 80s for laughs

  • fred

    It’s hard to get good acid these days.

  • Red Skeleton

    Well, I’m super excited for tomorrows Best of the Worst Halloween episode. I can’t wait to see how Rich gets killed this year. You wouldn’t break my heart now, would you RLM?

  • Jaws

    speaking of zombies and Halloween, Plink needs to review Rob Zombie’s Halloween… come on man, you know that sucked.

  • Donaldo Knottso

    Is Jay rockin’ a Freddy Krueger sweater?

  • Frank Lovejoy

    The director role is mostly a non-job in animation. It’s almost all done by the animation director and the editor.

  • Frank Lovejoy

    That show has so lost it.

  • Frank Lovejoy

    Really? What was the most riveting social comment? The pie in the face, or the blood-pressure machine?

    It’s not social commentary and it never was. That’s a nonsensical thing some film student said, and Romero glommed onto it because like all people he wants you think he’s smarter than he is.

    It’s a zombie film. They went to a mall because Romero thought it was a cool location (he said that years before he started claiming it was ‘social commentary’).

    If you want to see Romero’s social commentary, watch the execrable ‘Diary of the Dead’.

  • instant relief

    Man, the Nostalgia Critic got fat.

  • Palpatine

    He eats all the food at the buffet table so you don’t have to.

  • john smith

    the pie…I fink

  • Malevolence

    No he’s wearing it, but i can see the confusion

  • SqualrusWalrus

    The ending segment might be the best piece of film these hacks have made. def best lighting they’ve done.

  • I don’t know why there hasn’t been a movie (to my knowledge) that played with the idea that zombies eat people to hold off their inevitable decay. Surely they must be eating for some reason other than just “basic instincts”? What are those instincts if their tissue is completely dead? Just fragmented memories?

  • Joseph R. Casper

    Can you guys do a re:View of “What We Do in the Shadows”? I’m pretty sure Jay gave that movie praise in an episode of Half in the Bag at one point.

    Such a fucking genius and hilarious movie.

    It changed my life. Seriously.

  • The part where they bicker sticks his arm in the blood pressure machine has always been my favorite.

  • Nemo

    OK, so I’ve only seen the internet “everything but the kitchen sink” cut, but Mike’s 19:30 objection to their not securing drinking water is addressed. All that Spam is part of pre-positioned Civil Defense stores in case of nuclear attack. Drinking water was also included, and in the shot where they first enter through the skylight you can see the labelled containers behind them.

    Now I’m gonna go rewatch “Monkey Man Gets His”, a film I truly love. (^_^)

    Did I make this same comment months ago?

    Who knows?

    Who cares?

    George Romero, if you start walking tomorrow, I’ll shoot you through the head, man.

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